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Thursday, December 12, 2013

The legacy of Mandela



This should suffice to settle the question of whether the Hero of Mandela's Funeral actually knows how to sign or not. He knows no more ASL than he does Advanced Squad Leader. And have genocidal threats by a head of state ever been funnier?

I especially enjoyed the dancing soldiers. If the Boers ever do rise up against the ANC and establish an independent White South Africa , I suspect they're not only going to win, but win easily.

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Anonymous Alexander December 12, 2013 1:03 PM  

Well they better win easily and quickly if they try it - if it drags out at all, the west will be more than happy to do what the ANC could not.

Blogger JCclimber December 12, 2013 1:04 PM  

Gotta love da womynz in the background behind him, too. Looks like someone snuck a video camera into where I'm contracting this year!

Anonymous Stilicho December 12, 2013 1:04 PM  

We have to get both those guys for the super bowl!

Blogger JCclimber December 12, 2013 1:05 PM  

Yes, that sign language guy was hilarious. He couldn't even keep the signs he was making up the same.
Make note of how he translates "run".

Anonymous Alexander December 12, 2013 1:06 PM  

On the other hand, there's an excellent opportunity to black-knight here: a facebook post decrying how they did not catch this guy earlier given this earlier example... and the fact that you're spreading a video showing an African head of state and his armed forces joyfully singing and dancing about killing a white minority group? Coincidence.

Anonymous Salt December 12, 2013 1:08 PM  

You got that right, Vox.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner December 12, 2013 1:15 PM  

The ANC is nothing but thugs, murderers, thieves and ignoramuses.

The unemployment rate is over 50% in Mandelfrica.

HIV rate, in the land of kill the hand that feeds you, amongst 15-49 y/o is around 25%, some of the infected have taken to raping infants because they believe it to cure HIV.

The savages from the ANC and their ilk will be wiped out by either themselves, HIV or the superior white man.

Blogger JDC December 12, 2013 1:17 PM  

I heard on the radio this AM that his excuse was a schizophrenic episode...and not wanting to disrupt the proceedings he continued as best he could. Delusions of force majeure, to be sure.

Blogger Markku December 12, 2013 1:19 PM  

As for Salt's video,
a) That's an assault rifle, not machine gun
b) The singular is used, when it should clearly be plural

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 12, 2013 1:19 PM  

Is that signer the biggest con-man of all time or what?

Anonymous kh123 December 12, 2013 1:19 PM  

And now, John Scalzi with the weather...

Blogger Nate December 12, 2013 1:19 PM  

The Failz. The Failz are many.

Blogger Tiny Tim December 12, 2013 1:23 PM  

Warriors... who cut up women and children.

Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 1:32 PM  

If history is any guide at all......it will be the bloody British in South Afrika that get massacred by the blacks.....not the Boers. Only the Brits think they can live with the filthy bastards, the Boers simply want to be left alone....just like always.

Anonymous cheddarman December 12, 2013 1:36 PM  

Any chance of a Boer/Russia/China alliance?

Blogger Harold Carper December 12, 2013 1:40 PM  

They will only win if they are willing to win.

Blogger RobertT December 12, 2013 1:47 PM  

Who can doubt the reality of God? Or at least a giant puppet master laughing out loud? These people are so evil they make it funny.

Anonymous Porky December 12, 2013 1:47 PM  

Now how about a rousing chorus of "Throw The Jew Down The Well"?

Anonymous Noah B. December 12, 2013 1:55 PM  

Dude -- you just rock.

OpenID newrebeluniv December 12, 2013 1:58 PM  

Wonder what "Kill the Boer" would look like in African Sign Language.

--Hale

Blogger Russell Lemley December 12, 2013 1:58 PM  

Isn't that the sign language dude in the background???

Anonymous Idle Spectator December 12, 2013 2:02 PM  

You got that right, Vox.

Ahahahahahahahahah.

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha.

Anonymous Harsh December 12, 2013 2:13 PM  

Don't tell me, 'Kill the Boer' isn't racist because blacks were oppressed.

Blogger rycamor December 12, 2013 2:14 PM  

Markku December 12, 2013 1:19 PM

As for Salt's video,
a) That's an assault rifle, not machine gun
b) The singular is used, when it should clearly be plural


All together now:

If it doesn't have a tail it's not a monkey
Even if it has a monkey kinda shape.
If it doesn't have a tail it's not a monkey
If it doesn't have a tail it's not a monkey, it's an ape.

Blogger Shimshon December 12, 2013 2:15 PM  

Catchy tune! If I was one of those soldiers, I too would feel like dancing.

Anonymous AlteredFate December 12, 2013 2:18 PM  

Any chance of a Boer/Russia/China alliance?

How about some good ol' red blooded Americans get some guns and go down there and (re)colonize SA? It's that or stay here and fight the brown hordes, SWPLs, and an ever more hostile government.

OpenID newrebeluniv December 12, 2013 2:19 PM  

Note to self: Watch video first, then comment.

--Hale

Blogger Bob Wallace December 12, 2013 2:19 PM  

One of my friends was an American mercenary who fought on the Ian Smith side in Rhodesia. He said that fighting blacks was like being in a turkey shoot.

Anonymous Red December 12, 2013 2:29 PM  

South Africa fell to very good propaganda campaign ran by a 5th column of jews and progressive Englishmen(English directing and jews making the propaganda). They were talked into surrendering from a position of strength. Armed blacks were never a real threat until whites had been disarmed.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben December 12, 2013 2:31 PM  

How was South Africa so stupid to surrender to a bunch of orcs?

Anonymous Harsh December 12, 2013 2:38 PM  

If it doesn't have a tail it's not a monkey, it's an ape.

If it likes bananas, it's a monkey!!!

Blogger Krul December 12, 2013 2:39 PM  

@ Salt,

That victory pose at the end... LOLFR!

Anonymous Daniel December 12, 2013 3:04 PM  

>> If the Boers ever do rise up against the ANC and establish an independent White South Africa

After the fighting the Boers must round up and expel all the former white leaders who sold them out. Strip them of their citizenship and any right to live with white South Africans. Put them on a long trek to Zimbabwe.

This includes all the Jews, because they have been nothing but trouble for the Boers since they arrived in South Africa in the late 19th century. So many Jews were involved in anti-Boer activity yet few of their posterity still live in South Africa. They are all in London, America, Canada or Israel. Great patriots.

Anonymous TWS December 12, 2013 3:12 PM  

My grandson was very upset. I couldn't stop laughing. Kill the Boer? They can't even find a real sign language guy. They should have let them keep the nukes. They'd either blow themselves up or maybe use them in a witchdoctor juju or maybe both.

Anonymous Azimus December 12, 2013 3:14 PM  

Shouldn't we all be celebrating the mono-cultural alignment in South Africa now? Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate. Shouldn't "Kill the Boer" be hailed as a patriotic, if not over-zealous call for a return to traditional South African society?

Was there ever a time when the Boers/English outbred the Africans in South Africa? I imagine emigration is taking a heavy toll.

Has a shrink-and-consolidate strategy ever worked historically for an outnumbered former-ruling minority? The Turks in the 1920's perhaps? Ancient Greeks?

Anonymous Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 12, 2013 3:20 PM  

"Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate."

You seem to be historically illiterate. Check when the Bantu came to Southern Africa and how much assimilation they have done.

Blogger James Higham December 12, 2013 3:21 PM  

Don't even start me on that. I'm surrounded by South Africans here.

Blogger ajw308 December 12, 2013 3:26 PM  

If the Boers ever do rise up against the ANC and establish an independent White South Africa , I suspect they're not only going to win, but win easily.
Wilbur Smith, in his books, tells that the the Black African soldier thinks the harder they yank on the trigger, the faster the bullet will leave the muzzle and no amount of training can break them. That's historical fiction. Looking at Executive Action's success with a very small team I have a hunch that the manpower requirements to control South Africa after it crumbles from Black rule, will be minimal.

Anonymous TWS December 12, 2013 3:27 PM  

We'd be better off with the Allstate guy and they'd do better with Morgan Freeman. Sad that actors would do just as well as the politicians.

Kinda OT did anyone see the pics of Obama flirting with the Denmark PM? I loved the expressions after Michelle made them change seats. Kind of surprised me. I always assumed he batted for the other team.

Anonymous Harsh December 12, 2013 3:28 PM  

Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate.

Should the civilized assimilate with the savage or the savage with the civilized?

Anonymous Noah B. December 12, 2013 3:32 PM  

The outfit was actually called Executive Outcomes for those who might be interested in reading up on them. I couldn't remember why they had closed up shop, but basically they were banned by the South African government in 1998.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni December 12, 2013 3:33 PM  

The British colonized Africa. How the hell did the USA allow Africans to colonize us? Well, the joke's on them. They're trying to educate them with British accents now.

Blogger Dennis Price December 12, 2013 3:44 PM  

As always a situation like this is complex. I wrote my piece because I felt compelled to do it as a Child of Apartheid. tmblr.co/Zg3Slw10v7Ae6 . It is too long to summarise, but I guess the one word that summarizes it is ambivalence.

Anonymous Jim December 12, 2013 3:45 PM  

"Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate."

You're probably a bit dense, but I'll humor you. There were no Bantus(blacks) in South Africa at the time colonization. The people who lived there where the Khoisan peoples that the Bantus had been slaughtering as they moved south. Blacks were as much Colonists to south Africa as the whites were.

OpenID herenvardo December 12, 2013 3:47 PM  

I was in the SADF (SA Defence Force) in '93, the second-last-ever callup. When ANC 'cadres' appeared on TV we always had a laugh, first at the drilling, then the dancing, then at the outraged cries of their liedaz: 'Cease fire! The 21-gun salute is OVER! It is FINISHED!'

I never found out what the Permanent Force buggers thought. I hear they're working for the armies of Persian Gulf states as training staff, now - UAE, Bahrain, etc.

Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 3:48 PM  

Azimus......"Shouldn't we all be celebrating the mono-cultural alignment in South Africa now? Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate. Shouldn't "Kill the Boer" be hailed as a patriotic, if not over-zealous call for a return to traditional South African society?"

I will assume that you are serious and not joking.
There are over 4 million whites in South Afrika (2011), and another 6 million asians and coloured persons. Fully ten million people of South Afrika are not black Afrikans. But even four million whites can be a rather formidable force in Afrika, where an army of 500 is a big army. I hope they decide to carve out a bit of real estate of their own and decide to stay.

It may help to know that the modern State of Israel started with one million Jews in 1947 and it was not until 1995 that the Jews in Israel were equal in population to the whites in South Afrika today. I mention Israel, in part because, South Afrika has been the #2 arms supplier of Israel, behind the United States.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 12, 2013 3:53 PM  

Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 12, 2013 3:20 PM
Check when the Bantu came to Southern Africa and how much assimilation they have done.


Bantu, Hottentot, what difference, at this point, does it make?

frankly, when you tell me that KhoiKhoi and Bantu peoples are different the only thing i can assume is that you are RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.




OT, Adventures in ObamaCare
So, i went to the chiropractor today. i have no insurance, i was paying cash. i've been going to this office for ... ~20 years?

i walk in and the secretary hands me paperwork to fill out. i look at her and ask her if she doesn't recognize me or what?

she tells me that it's a new requirement of Obamacare, that every doctor's office ( of any type ) is required to collect personal information. if the office doesn't have the personal info of a certain percentage of the client base ... the office gets whacked with a big federal fine.

i asked, just to clarify, "even though i'm paying cash and NOT using insurance of ANY kind"? yes.

some of the questions on the form:
1 - first, last and middle initial ... which is completely unremarkable. then they also asked "What name do you prefer to be called by?"
what the hell? now my nickname(s) are government documentation? am i a criminal now, that you need to know my "aliases"?
2 - "What language do you prefer to speak?" Tuvan.
3 - "Have you ever smoked tobacco? If so, are you still doing so currently and if in the past what time frame did you do so?"
weirdly, they had no interest in questioning me about narcotics or alcohol.

Blogger ajw308 December 12, 2013 3:56 PM  

The outfit was actually called Executive Outcomes for those who might be interested in reading up on them. I couldn't remember why they had closed up shop, but basically they were banned by the South African government in 1998.
EO was in Africa under the UN. They kinda went rogue and did what they were officially there to do rather than pose and posture. The locals who weren't getting slaughtered loved them. The UN removed then removed them.

And it'll happen again. A minority faction of Blacks will be slaughtering village after village, then a small white group will come in, eliminate the trouble makers and provide a safe and productive environment for the majority of blacks. It'll be a return to Apartheid, just without the protests for a few generations.

Blogger ajw308 December 12, 2013 4:00 PM  

I mention Israel, in part because, South Afrika has been the #2 arms supplier of Israel, behind the United States.
Rumor has it that Israel, Taiwan, and South Africa collaborated to develop their bomb. International pariahs know they need to stick together.

Anonymous Alexander December 12, 2013 4:01 PM  

Dennis,

Do you advocate or support immigration and open borders to Australia?

Anonymous TLM December 12, 2013 4:04 PM  

ajw308

It was Executive Outcomes and they scared the living shitt out of every tin pot African dictator, which was why the UN went after them. Their interviews are comical in the way they describe how utterly hopeless and pathetic organized kafir paramilitary units are. EO slaughtered their asses.

Blogger Harold Carper December 12, 2013 4:09 PM  

Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate.

I see your sarcasm and, like the rest of the table, raise you sobriety: And? Even if the blacks of South Africa were descendants of a pre-colonial population, this is an almost-irrelevant tangent to the real issue. I don't think anyone here faults the Mexicans for invading the United States. Most of it is better than Mexico, after all. The real issue is who is going to come out on top. If we in the U.S. don't want to be replaced by Mexicans and the Mexican culture which is demonstrably inferior by numerous metrics, then we have to fight to keep them out. Or to completely assimilate them, which is almost surely impossible. Same thing in South Africa. If the descendants of European colonists want to keep the land they conquered as well as their own culture, they will have to fight for it. The goal in both North America and South Africa is--or ought to be--dominance, not assimilation.

Blogger Dennis Price December 12, 2013 4:11 PM  

@Alexander

No I don't support open borders but I do support migration. (As an immigrant I'd be duplicitous if I didn't.)
(For what it is worth: Half the world's problems stem from human beings becoming overly attached to soil.)

Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 4:11 PM  

It should be worth mentioning, for those who do not bother, that the blacks in South Afrika are by no means a single monolithic group. There is still a considerable amount of tribal rivalry in Afrika. Of the Xhosa there are 8 million, Zulu are 10.6 million, Tswana are 4.5 million, and dozen lesser tribes and nations. They have their own problems over the years with each other.

Among whites, 60 percent speak Afrikaaner as their first language and 35 percent are English speakers. Some of the universities and colleges teach in both languages.

Anonymous Noah B. December 12, 2013 4:18 PM  

"They have their own problems over the years with each other."

Cannibalism will do that.

Anonymous Alexander December 12, 2013 4:19 PM  

Or, not attached enough! Every crisis of cultural tension would have long ago disappeared if people had universally refused to either retreat or colonize.

Blogger Harold Carper December 12, 2013 4:21 PM  

I don't think the problem has ever really been being too attached to the land, but being too covetous of someone else's land.

Anonymous Just Mark December 12, 2013 4:23 PM  

Question ... As I don't know the language that goober is singing in why should I trust the English translation presented in the video?

Anonymous Noah B. December 12, 2013 4:26 PM  

"Question ... As I don't know the language that goober is singing in why should I trust the English translation presented in the video?"

You shouldn't, and it doesn't appear to be a completely accurate translation. But searching on the lyrics for "Kill the Boer" is a good start. That's what I did.

Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 4:26 PM  

Dennis Price.....(For what it is worth: Half the world's problems stem from human beings becoming overly attached to soil.)

Dennis, I am trying to distill what it is worth and only you could help me. When you speak of humans becoming overly attached to the soil, do you mean those who resist invasion, being attached to their own soil, or those who are overly attached to someone else's soil, meaning the invaders? Granted both are contending for the same soil, but do see any difference between the two?

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami December 12, 2013 4:35 PM  

AlteredFate: How about some good ol' red blooded Americans get some guns and go down there and (re)colonize SA? It's that or stay here and fight the brown hordes, SWPLs, and an ever more hostile government.

What a stupid idea.

How about some good ol red blooded Americans fight for their own damned country, before it turns into S.A., with a 10% white minority and a black president who raps "Kill Whitey" during his State of the Union address?

Anonymous Discard December 12, 2013 4:42 PM  

The French have been sending mere companies of Foreign Legionaires to Africa to sort things out in one pisspot or another for decades. 200 well trained White men plunked in the midst of millions of Blacks, and they all make it back. Anybody see "Black Hawk Down"? Even in a reputed disaster, Whites shoot Blacks 50 to 1.
Fundamentally, Blacks are wildlife. Like the buffalo and the wolf, modern humans can remove them at will.

Blogger Dennis Price December 12, 2013 4:49 PM  

@DonReynolds
Both. (My nirvana of no attachment to the earth will never happen because it is against human nature.)

Invaders invade. That has always happened and always will.
The strongest will win - that is the cycle of life.
In S-Africa, the ANC won the war. If you believe anything else, you are kidding yourself. (Despite the military superiority of the incumbent white government at the time.)

It does not matter that whites 'could have won' if only it weren't for international pressure or an unwillingness to commit certain deeds or whatever.

The problem that exists is that nowadays these invasion wars are fought and won on sheer numbers. And cleverly the invaders use the weakness of liberal POV to infiltrate and then use the democratic system against the host.

So, democratic, liberal communities are ill-equipped to fight this type of warfare. The question that must be asked is whether those values are more important than the survival of the tribe and the ownership of a particular piece of soil.

Some say yes and some say no.

Anonymous Scipio Africanus December 12, 2013 5:08 PM  

In my opinion, the Boers will have the opportunity to take back what is theirs if they can hang on 10-15 years, until the U.S. implodes under a mountain of debt. When we are bankrupt, we will have zero ability to intervene in South Africa on the side of the ANC. The Boers could divide up Southern Africa with the Chinese and be their very efficient police force.

Almost sounds like a Tom Kratman novel.

Anonymous Scipioafricanus December 12, 2013 5:15 PM  

Dennis Price, attitudes in Europe and the U.S. are going to change dramatically when the Great Depression II starts its massive deleveraging cycle. No one in the U.S. or Europe will care or have the ability to intervene when the treasury is empty.

Anonymous VryeDenker December 12, 2013 5:34 PM  

If you want to see something REALLY cool, look up Niklaas Van Rensburg's visions. I have a book on them that was published in the 90's describing Nelson Mandela's glass coffin, him lying in state in Pretoria for a couple of days and the hordes of international dignitaries come to pay their last respects.

Anonymous VryeDenker December 12, 2013 5:39 PM  

Seriously

Anonymous paradox December 12, 2013 5:55 PM  

FUBAR Nation Ben December 12, 2013 2:31 PM

How was South Africa so stupid to surrender to a bunch of orcs?


And the thread winner is... Ben!

Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 6:36 PM  

Dennis Price....."The problem that exists is that nowadays these invasion wars are fought and won on sheer numbers. And cleverly the invaders use the weakness of liberal POV to infiltrate and then use the democratic system against the host."

The British in North America and in India have already disproven your idea that sheer numbers decide the wars, else my Irish ass would still be somewhere near Sligo on the west coast of Ireland. But on the off-chance you might be correct and modern weapons are suddenly useless against overwhelming odds, I suggest you learn Mandarin Chinese.

Dennis Price....."So, democratic, liberal communities are ill-equipped to fight this type of warfare. The question that must be asked is whether those values are more important than the survival of the tribe and the ownership of a particular piece of soil."

I could not agree more. The liberal, democratic way of thinking is what we will dispose of pretty quickly, when the time comes. But I warn you, many will wish we had not and also wish for when we were more like Canadians and less like Romans. Weapons are seldom forged that they are never used on somebody's neck.

As for the ANC....that war has yet to be fought. Declare winners later.


Anonymous DonReynolds December 12, 2013 6:41 PM  

Scipioafricanus....."Dennis Price, attitudes in Europe and the U.S. are going to change dramatically when the Great Depression II starts its massive deleveraging cycle. No one in the U.S. or Europe will care or have the ability to intervene when the treasury is empty."

That will come as GOOD NEWS to the white South Afrikans.

Anonymous TWS December 12, 2013 7:17 PM  

VreyDenker -
Where can we find a true translation of the prophecies? Do you think that his prophecies of ww 3 are playing out?

Anonymous Throsby December 12, 2013 7:45 PM  

@ Dennis: I assume you live in Australia, so what will you do as the third world invasion of Australia ramps up? Where will you flee? The problem with not being too attached to an piece of soil to defend it is that sooner or later (and very soon from the looks of things) you run out of new soil to flee to. With Europe, America, Canada and Australia overrun by hordes where will you run to?

Anonymous Throsby December 12, 2013 7:46 PM  

EDIT: I meant to say with Europe, America, Canada and Australia about to be overrun by hordes where will you run to?

Anonymous Luke December 12, 2013 8:03 PM  

Scipio Africanus December 12, 2013 5:08 PM

In my opinion, the Boers will have the opportunity to take back what is theirs if they can hang on 10-15 years,

They won;t hang on that long, NFW with current trends. I read somewhere that the white population of South Africa was already lower by 20% (to something like 4 million?) since the blacks took over. Further, the missing 20% was disproportionately healthy (read: age 18-45) males. Take those out, and you're left with what? The same as the typical last to leave areas in cities the U.S. that go black, e.g., the destitute, single mothers, widows, druggies, and other types fairly worthless for any kind of militarization.

Nope, SA is (sadly) lost to the orcs, at least until the Chinese/Russians/future even-worse America/whatever invade them for the chromium and gold.
T

Anonymous Luke December 12, 2013 8:14 PM  

Alan Paton's widow on why she is leaving South Africa forever, in the aptly named "Fly, the beloved country":

http://tinyurl.com/kf87htk

It sounds a whole lot like Cathy Buckle's depictions of the Somalia that is the former Rhodesia now (called the clumsy "Zimbabwe").

http://www.cathybuckle.com/

Anonymous Harsh December 12, 2013 8:22 PM  

I meant to say with Europe, America, Canada and Australia about to be overrun by hordes where will you run to?

We're going to pull an Iron Sky and colonize the moon.

Anonymous paradox December 12, 2013 10:31 PM  

The Boer need to create more Oranias.

Blogger Dennis Price December 13, 2013 1:01 AM  

@DonReynolds
I am just referring to the type of war by numbers.
And yes, learning Mandarin would be smart.
@Throsby
I did say very early that I don't know what the solution is.

Not sure if you read my whole original piece but (a) I did not really flee - it is more complex (b) I am not overly attached to anywhere and (c) I actually get along with other people without race coming into play - it is just certain cultural value-sets/ socio-economic environments that I don't like.

Just wanted to reflect the ambivalence that I feel towards the whole post-Apartheid history generally and Mandela specifically.

Many people on the thread seem to have very firm answers, and so do I. But I am also acutely aware of how my history/culture/biases and perceptions colour my views and decisions and that - other than God - there is no objective truth to be had that we can completely know.I.e. I expect to be proven wrong, even if I live as if it isn't.

Which means you may be right. Even if I think not... :)

Anonymous VryeDenker December 13, 2013 3:55 AM  

How was South Africa so stupid to surrender to a bunch of orcs?

Ask the UN. It wasn't bad enough that we had to fight against african terrorists, but we also fought Cuba and Russia on our borders. And right at the point we needed assistance the most, The US and Europe decided to fuck us over and "encourage" us to capitulate with threats of sanctions and military action.

VreyDenker -
Where can we find a true translation of the prophecies? Do you think that his prophecies of ww 3 are playing out?


I'll try and find you an ebook. I know there's one floating around somewhere. I'm not a great student of the man, so I can't really comment on most of it. I do know that he predicted the problems with islam and the chinese.

Anonymous paradox December 13, 2013 9:40 AM  

Documentary on Siener van Rensburg

Anonymous TWS December 13, 2013 10:37 AM  

Thanks

Anonymous Luke December 13, 2013 2:37 PM  

Translation of what the fake signer at the late Mandela's funeral was actually saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gG57ncLTCNc

Anonymous Azimus December 13, 2013 3:57 PM  

Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 12, 2013 3:20 PM
"Afterall, the Boers/English were immigrants/invaders who brought their own culture to South Africa and refused to assimilate."

You seem to be historically illiterate. Check when the Bantu came to Southern Africa and how much assimilation they have done


First, I would hardly equate lack of knowledge of the migrational habits of the Bantu with historic illiteracy. Second, I forgot my "/s" tag for people more inclined to take every comment seriously. It was only a whimsical attempt to consider what is essentially the inverse of the American/European situation. Take it as such.

Anonymous Azimus December 13, 2013 4:00 PM  

Harsh December 12, 2013 3:28 PM
Should the civilized assimilate with the savage or the savage with the civilized?


An excellent question to ponder. I would say the civilized tribes should pluck suitable candidates from the savage to allow them to assimilate, and keep the rest a comfortable distance away. Sounds remarkably similar to the old immigration system before it crumpled under the "raciss" drumbeat.

Anonymous Azimus December 13, 2013 4:08 PM  

Jim December 12, 2013 3:45 PM
You're probably a bit dense, but I'll humor you. There were no Bantus(blacks) in South Africa at the time colonization. The people who lived there where the Khoisan peoples that the Bantus had been slaughtering as they moved south. Blacks were as much Colonists to south Africa as the whites were.


I'm never afraid to do a little good-natured-ribbing to the ilk on occasion. It has the tendency to raise the richness of the discussion and draw out more thoughtful, intelligent arguments, like your second point. I'm apologize I ruffled your feathers so much I incited you to name-calling.

Anonymous Azimus December 13, 2013 4:11 PM  

DonReynolds December 12, 2013 3:48 PM


Azimus.... I will assume that you are serious and not joking.


Good points, as always DonReynolds. But alas, while I was not joking, I was simply coming around to point out that SA is America in reverse.

Anonymous Azimus December 13, 2013 4:15 PM  

Harold Carper December 12, 2013 4:09 PM
I see your sarcasm and, like the rest of the table, raise you sobriety: And? Even if the blacks of South Africa were descendants of a pre-colonial population, this is an almost-irrelevant tangent to the real issue.... Same thing in South Africa. If the descendants of European colonists want to keep the land they conquered as well as their own culture, they will have to fight for it.


In a tongue-in-cheek manner, I was making this point.

I apologize for multi-commenting... I hope it is forgiven as this is an old thread at this point.

Anonymous Obviously Obvious December 13, 2013 11:04 PM  

"I would say the civilized tribes should pluck suitable candidates from the savage to allow them to assimilate, and keep the rest a comfortable distance away."

Define "suitable candidates". What are the metrics involved? Who decides? How do they get to decide?

Moreover, there are also savages (see southrons) within the assimilating culture who also ought to be kept at arm's length.

Anonymous Azimus December 16, 2013 5:00 PM  

Obviously Obvious December 13, 2013 11:04 PM

Define "suitable candidates". What are the metrics involved? Who decides? How do they get to decide?

An excellent question. I have often pondered this question myself. I think using a weighted-matrix of different criteria to establish a compatibility index - an "Eharmony" for immigration if you will - and then providing preferences to those nations, or groups within those nations, would work fairly well. I have considered the following criteria: language, religion, GPD per capita, and (a bit arbitrary) governmental similarity as four reasonable criteria for establishing if a "generic immigrant" from a particular nation would be a good one. Unsurprisingly, no matter how you test the sensitivity of this matrix, the nations of Western Europe, and particularly the British Commonwealth would provide the highest level of compatibility, and South Korea/Japan can sneak in there if you weight heavily towards GDP per capita and democracy at the expense of language and religion (probably unwise).

But in the end, all that does is establish which fields CAN provide the ripest fruit, you still have to find the individuals within those nations that would be a good match. Looking at an individual level, religion, education, profession and income against the GDP per capita could provide good metrics for compatibility. All this is purely theoretical as far as I know though.

Blogger Tommy Hass March 20, 2014 8:09 PM  

"Warriors... who cut up women and children."

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