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Saturday, December 14, 2013

The rabbits ponder FIVER traffic

I was sent this exchange between some of the rabbits at the Whatever warren, bewildered by the frightening notion that their Chief Rabbit may not be anywhere nearly as important as he told them he was and that more people actually prefer the scary bad mans:
Rabbit 1: You know I am of two minds on this. First the plus side, the money donated is wonderful and it is fun to see losers fuming because feminism has MADE SF/F BETTER. And really to be honest, any man who believes in “game” is a loser to begin with. On the other hand, Scalzi is huge, with 50k readers a day (1) this only gives the evil side free publicity. If only twenty people wind up reading his stupid blogs because of this, he’ll double his readership. He is a nobody that no one listens to, he can only win in this.

Rabbit 2: Have you read his blog stats? Say what you will about his intelligence or character, but the RSHD gets some serious traffic. (2)

Scalzi-rah: As does Stormfront, I’m sure, and for similar reasons. (3)

Rabbit 3:  If you believe Beale, his Alexa rating has doubled in the past year and his shitty little “game” blog beats out this one, and blah blah blah.  I’m not saying he’s lying, exactly, but I dunno. I really can’t be assed to think about it too much, but I have a feeling that Mark Twain’s wisdom applies here.

Rabbit 4: I’m not saying he’s lying because I have no knowledge one way or the other. Anyway, the substance of a site’s content and the number of hits a site gets are two separate things. 

Rabbit 3: Well, okay, to be clear: he’s gaming Alexa, which is obvious if you look up his site’s history. It’s not particularly hard to do, I just don’t know how exactly he’s going about it. There are multiple ways. Not that it really matters, or that overblown narcissists can’t have legitimately high profiles. Some do. Beale doesn’t, though, and I just think it’s worth pointing out his transparent dishonesty. 

Scalzi-rah: I don’t think we need to worry ourselves whether Mr. Beale’s sites legitimately get the traffic he claims or not. It’s entirely possible they do. The Internet is full off assholes, and they like to clump together. If they go to his sites and off of everyone else’s, then he’s welcome to their traffic. And if he’s making it all up, then it’s nice he has a hobby. (4)
Let's address the traffic claims first. John Scalzi alternatively switches between claiming "50,000 daily readers", "up to 50,000 daily readers", and "~50,000 daily readers" depending upon what he thinks he can get away with.  His actual daily traffic for the year through November 2013 is 21,400 Google pageviews per day. Mine is 36,511. Apparently there are a considerable number of people that John Scalzi considers assholes out there.

As for the "shitty little game blog", it has been rapidly catching up to Whatever all by itself. Whatever has been in decline ever since May 2012, the occasional bump from McRapey's friends at the Guardian notwithstanding. Alpha Game grew from 1,675,300 pageviews in 2012 to what I estimate will be more than 3.7 million in 2013.

With regards to the supposed gaming of Alexa, I note that Whatever has more sites linking in (4,625) than it has average daily readers. This compares to 893 sites linking in to VP. But even if I did somehow successfully game the improvement of VP's Alexa rank from 29,426 to 6,987, it should be fascinating to hear how I simultaneously managed to engineer the decline of Whatever from 12,996 to 51,779.

In any event, it is absolutely hilarious to see fans of the least honest blogger on the Internet, the Bernie Madoff of Science Fiction, desperately trying to point out my "transparent dishonesty" when I openly post my Sitemeter numbers and honestly report my Google pageviews. This is what Google reports for VP alone as of this morning; Alpha Game was another 10,115 yesterday for a slightly below par 35,390. Fridays tend to be a little slow. Anyone who doubts that my traffic exceeds Whatever's should ask John Scalzi to post the exact same screenshot of his traffic for the last month. As for Alexa, I seem to recall openly declaring that it was a bullshit metric when similar survey measures were cited as evidence of Whatever's presumed popularity last year. I trust that I have now conclusively made my case in that regard.

And if you think this is amusing, just wait until I am able to show that McRapey's three "New York Times bestsellers" were gamed by Tor. Being a three-time Billboard Top 40 recording artist myself, I know it happened and I even know how. I just can't conclusively prove it yet. But if I ever gather the proof, I will certainly post it here.

Let me see if I can put this in a manner simple enough for the rabbits who genuinely believe "Scalzi is huge" and Redshirts is a great novel to understand:  EMBLEER INLE-RAH HRAIR ELIL. SCALZI-RAH SCALZI-ROO. O ZORN! RUN HLESSI RUN!


(1) See, they really are as dumb as we suspect them to be. 50,000 DAILY READERS!
(2) Possibly a Not-Rabbit. Sounds suspiciously like a rabbit-hunter to me.
(3) McRapey is still trying to push the Stormfront meme.  Never mind that the SFWA was so desperate to sweep that report under the table that they sent out DMCA takedown notices to prevent people from reading it.
(4) Translation: OH GOD, STOP TALKING ABOUT INTERNET TRAFFIC! HE'S JUST GOING TO RUB IT IN MY FACE AGAIN!

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60 Comments:

Anonymous Andrew December 14, 2013 7:23 AM  

I read a little of his blog, almost made me puke, but the frightening thing is that his worldview and attitudes are the NORM at public schools in the US. People who are thinking about public school as an option for their kids should consider the types of people who will be teaching them. Off topic, but its something worth noting, because while his ilk are in the minority amongst people they have a stranglehold over certain institutions that need to be broken.

Anonymous Stilicho December 14, 2013 7:28 AM  

Will they be reduced to claiming "downtrodden minority" status for scalzied manboobs due to relatively smaller traffic or will they simply continue to deny reality?

That little exchange shows why they value Scalzi, though: he reassures them and assuages their insecurities. He's their own personal Stuart Smalley, constantly telling them they are good enough and that the Big Bad Wolf isn't really at the door, or if he is, don't worry; all the best people use straw as a building material.

OpenID cailcorishev December 14, 2013 7:53 AM  

Man, if you wrote dialogue as cheesy as this, everyone would laugh at you. It's so funny the way they have to sprinkle condemnations of the Bad Guys throughout their conversation, even when they're preaching to the choir, to keep assuring each other that they're the Good Guys and share the right positions by dint of hating the right people. They really do live in constant fear, don't they?

Now I suppose I should go back through that paragraph and insert references to "losers" and "narcissistic" "evil side," but I guess I just don't care enough.

Anonymous jack December 14, 2013 8:03 AM  

I don't know whats more entertaining these days; reading a Kratman, Correia, VD, etc. book or reading these delightful posts and comments about McRapey.

I believe VD should setup an special award [first and maybe continueing winner Scalsick] as Most Entertaining yet Harmless Little Foosball on the Internet. Or some such. The whole situation deserves special treatment. [over and above the usual bit--slaps given out here].

Anonymous Harsh December 14, 2013 8:35 AM  

And really to be honest, any man who believes in “game” is a loser to begin with.

Someone who believes in learning about how male/female dynamics work in the real world instead of the fantasy perpetuated by feminists and manboobs is a loser?

Huh, who knew?

Anonymous Red Comet December 14, 2013 8:42 AM  

Well, okay, to be clear: he’s gaming Alexa

I thought they didn't believe in Game.

Anonymous tdm December 14, 2013 8:49 AM  

Thanks VD, when I read Rabbit 1 for the second time I laughed even harder than I did the first time.

Blogger Rantor December 14, 2013 9:20 AM  

Not believing in game? Might as well deny gravity, or march in the arctic to save polar bears.

Anonymous RandyJJ December 14, 2013 9:25 AM  

Well, okay, to be clear: he’s gaming Alexa
Does Spacebunny know about this?

Blogger Nate December 14, 2013 9:33 AM  

"I read a little of his blog, almost made me puke, but the frightening thing is that his worldview and attitudes are the NORM at public schools in the US."

No they aren't. They are the NORM that the administrators are pushing down the kid's throats. But a great many of the kids know its bullshit and reject it.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan December 14, 2013 9:33 AM  

DOWN GOES SCALZI!
DOWN GOES SCALZI!
DOWN GOES SCALZI!

Anonymous Salt December 14, 2013 9:36 AM  

The Scalzi is great entertainment, at his expense of course.

Anonymous Inane Rambler December 14, 2013 9:50 AM  

'Feminism made SciFi better.'

Lol, no. Compare Honor Harrington or anything by Scalzi to Heinlein, Card, or Piper. That claim is pretty easy to bust.

It's blatantly obvious that the Politically Correct Gamma Dumbass (PCGD) lives in the textbook definition of an echo chamber. Let's also remember that Haidt demonstrated that conservatives are more aware of what liberals believe than vice versa. Liberalism/Progressivism is truly an ideology for the sheltered.

Anonymous GG December 14, 2013 10:07 AM  

"I really can’t be assed to think about it too much.."

This is so racist. Obviously he's mocking people who axe for things.

Anonymous Godfrey December 14, 2013 10:11 AM  

Rabbit 1, 2, 3, & 4 are women, right? If not, I'm lucky because I just can't imagine having to deal with such effeminate twerps on a daily basis. My mother is more masculine.

I feel sad for them. I really do. It's so pathetic. They obviously lacked/lack a male presence in their lives.

Blogger IM2L844 December 14, 2013 10:16 AM  

But a great many of the kids know its bullshit and reject it.

I pray to God you're right about that, Nate, but I'm dubious.

Anonymous allyn71 December 14, 2013 10:23 AM  

Rabbit 1 has to be a setup. That little blurb seems like it was puked out of a talking points memo. Is Scalzi now reduced to the point of ghost commenting on his site to generate buzz? No one can be such a sycophant.

If it isn't some bullshit scam pulled by the serial publicist and is legit,... damn it must really suck to be a rabbit.

Anonymous Godfrey December 14, 2013 10:28 AM  

I read this and I'm aghast. I'd compare it to a reassurance party among teenage girls, but teenage girls aren't this meek, scared and effeminate.

Is it me? Am I reading this wrong? It's at times like this that I feel like a stranger on a strange foreign world. This planet is a freaking lunatic asylum.

Blogger tz December 14, 2013 10:31 AM  

Speaking of which, I hope your lawyers file and demand discovery so that the "stuff which must not be posted in public" would be on the public record.

The whatever dialogs remind me of a monty python sketch where they are apparently literary ants. Replace anthill with rabbit warren.

Blogger Nate December 14, 2013 10:48 AM  

"I pray to God you're right about that, Nate, but I'm dubious."

When I was running the youth program at church just a couple years ago it was certainly true. The indoctrination was in full force but here's the thing... you're telling kids one thing... and its radically different from what they actually observe.

What you're really teaching them... is that old people are stupid. Which is, to some extent, confirmation bias when it comes to kids anyway.

Blogger Nate December 14, 2013 10:51 AM  

"Rabbit 1, 2, 3, & 4 are women, right? If not, I'm lucky because I just can't imagine having to deal with such effeminate twerps on a daily basis. My mother is more masculine."

as Vox pointed out... Rabbit 2 may not be a Rabbit at all.

Anonymous Brenden December 14, 2013 11:07 AM  

"But even if I did somehow successfully game the improvement of VP's Alexa rank from 29,426 to 6,987, it should be fascinating to hear how I simultaneously managed to engineer the decline of Whatever from 12,996 to 51,779."

Isn't it obvious? Clearly you gamed the improvement of 38,782 other sites' Alexa rankings as well.

Blogger Beefy Levinson December 14, 2013 11:10 AM  

Whenever they issue their rote assertion that Game is for losers, it reminds me of this exchange from the Simpsons:
"How do you sleep at night?
"On top of a pile of money with many beautiful women."

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 14, 2013 11:29 AM  

What a rabid set of jack off rabbits. ScaMcRaRa isn't fooling anyone.

And its all great press, good attention for weighing the truths to the lies.

Anonymous Ugh December 14, 2013 11:42 AM  

December 14, 2013 9:50 AM
'Feminism made SciFi better.'

Lol, no. Compare Honor Harrington or anything by Scalzi to Heinlein, Card, or Piper. That claim is pretty easy to bust.


You can even bust the claim by looking within Heinlein -- the more an individual work is infected with feminist ideas, the worse it is (e.g. Friday, Number of the Beast).

Anonymous Andrew December 14, 2013 11:52 AM  

Nate, thats what I meant. Norm for the teachers.

Anonymous Anonymous December 14, 2013 12:14 PM  

"It's blatantly obvious that the Politically Correct Gamma Dumbass (PCGD) lives in the textbook definition of an echo chamber."

Actually, it's more of a circle jerk, with Scalzi dangling his putz out for rabbit love.

Blogger jdwalker December 14, 2013 12:16 PM  

For my part, I never knew who Scalzi was until I read this blog, and I personally do not find these posts interesting beyond my enjoyment in a few laughs at the expense of Scalzi and his devotees. But I could do without them and see them replaced by more posts on the topics I enjoy. But I am confident that these exchanges will lead to more content that I enjoy.

Anonymous Martin December 14, 2013 12:38 PM  

A serious question Vox: why do you give a s**t what these losers say or think? I'm 50 years old and I've been a lifelong SF fan but until I read about him on your site, I'd never even heard of John Scalzi.

Anonymous Phil Mann December 14, 2013 12:42 PM  

But I could do without them...

Don't be too hasty. Much as with the GBFM posts at Roissy's site, there are rewards to be had once you see past the initial, seeming insanity.

Anonymous Dan in Tx December 14, 2013 12:45 PM  

Vox posts on what interests / amuses Vox. Thankfully he has a variety of things that interest / amuses him, as the variety is one of the things that makes this blog one of my daily reads. Though the McRapey posts are great for a laugh, one also shouldn't miss the importance of openly mocking the left, it's something they've been doing to us with impunity for years. Their reactions are priceless.

Anonymous VD December 14, 2013 12:46 PM  

A serious question Vox: why do you give a s**t what these losers say or think?

I don't. Do you think I gave a damn about whether the Japanese invaded Pearl Harbor? Remember, he chose to attack me. He chose this path voluntarily. And I will never, ever stop responding until he abases himself before the Dread Ilk to their satisfaction.

Or until I get bored. But since this sort of thing amuses me, that's not very likely.

Blogger Nate December 14, 2013 1:08 PM  

"And I will never, ever stop responding until he abases himself before the Dread Ilk to their satisfaction."

now that Krat is around... I shudder to think what would be involved in that...

Anonymous Scintan December 14, 2013 1:13 PM  

I find it empowering that a prominent, strong, feminist male writer, who's been caught padding his stats, still has the courage to attack someone else's reader base while attacking that person's stats at the same time.

In fact, my leg feels all tingly.

Anonymous VD December 14, 2013 1:25 PM  

Thank you for that, Scintan. So brave.

Anonymous Stephen J. December 14, 2013 1:27 PM  

McRapey's three "New York Times bestsellers" were gamed by Tor. ...I know it happened and I even know how. I just can't conclusively prove it yet. But if I ever gather the proof, I will certainly post it here.

I think you answered these questions before, so a link back rather than a recap is fine: How did Tor game the bestsellers, again? If you don't have the proof, how can you be so certain it happened? And what would be required for proof, and how could it be obtained? (Not necessarily how you would actually try, if that needs to stay confidential for now.)

Myself I'm asking only out of curiosity (and bad memory, since as noted I seem to recall this has already been answered elsewhere), but the question is likely to be posed as a rather more aggressive challenge in other contexts.

Anonymous Scintan December 14, 2013 1:52 PM  

OT:

I'm surprised Mark Call hasn't been around today. I would have thought that the Brown v. Buhman decision would have him here discussing its ramifications.

Anonymous VD December 14, 2013 2:06 PM  

How did Tor game the bestsellers, again?

They bulk-buy the books from certain bookstores. There are services that do this.

If you don't have the proof, how can you be so certain it happened?

Pattern recognition, the existence of those services, and my own experience with record industry list-gaming.

what would be required for proof

An admission by the parties responsible or a record of payments to the parties responsible.

Anonymous Anonymous December 14, 2013 2:19 PM  

"A serious question Vox: why do you give a s**t what these losers say or think?"

If I may add, Vox.

Simple: They start a fight, we finish it.

I enjoy seeing the warren's mindless ridicule met by ridicule backed up with wit, logic, and facts.

Makes the world seem a better place.

Blogger RobertT December 14, 2013 2:45 PM  

"The Internet is full off assholes, and they like to clump together."

Being an asshole is not such a bad thing. Everything that has been accomplished on this earth was accomplished by a compulsive, driving asshole. Couch potatoes, wimps and go-alongs are as productive as road kill. I'm sure the Sanhedrin sat around calling Jesus by similar derogatory terms. What Scalzi is missing here is that it's his kind that like to huddle up against every threat, as though talking it over with no threat of a disruptive opinion makes the owie go away.. (Apparently not a real word. I just coined it. Pencil it into your Thesaurus.) The assholes who are accomplishing things could really care less what the rabble think. In the first place, it's hard to find a group of intelligent like minded people. Even with the breadth and width of this blog and Alpha Game, VD has attracted only a true handful. I attracted a lot of people over my life, but few that I would place in the 'like-minded category. But the liberal types are very likely to put on a dancing tutu and gather group up and castigate the non-believers.

Anonymous TWS December 14, 2013 2:45 PM  

Vox what do they do with the bulk buy books? Do they get trashed or perhaps give them as promotional items? I know bookstores used to get promos are these part of that?

Anonymous Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 14, 2013 2:45 PM  

Perhaps Scalzi and crew should move to Australia where the High Court has made a slippery slope argument in favor of Gay Marriage. Given their argument, can legalized polygamy and even bestiality be far behind?

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/high_court_uses_slippery_slope_argument_to_defend_same_sex_marriage_where_i/

Anonymous kh123 December 14, 2013 3:29 PM  

"...he’s gaming Alexa, which is obvious if you look up his site’s history. It’s not particularly hard to do, I just don’t know how exactly he’s going about it. There are multiple ways. Not that it really matters,..."

Adorable to see the childrens imitating adult behavior. They really have no idea how much they've absorbed on a surface level from even skimming something other than Whatever.

Blogger rycamor December 14, 2013 3:29 PM  

Nate December 14, 2013 10:48 AM

"I pray to God you're right about that, Nate, but I'm dubious."

When I was running the youth program at church just a couple years ago it was certainly true. The indoctrination was in full force but here's the thing... you're telling kids one thing... and its radically different from what they actually observe.

What you're really teaching them... is that old people are stupid. Which is, to some extent, confirmation bias when it comes to kids anyway.


I think that last point is intentional--at least by some of the puppet-string pullers among the elite. Just another step in pulling kids away from families and stratifying people by generation.

OpenID herenvardo December 14, 2013 3:55 PM  

I'm amazed at how much Lapine you remember, O Voxster.

Keep it up! :)

Blogger rcocean December 14, 2013 4:49 PM  

Its too bad Scalzi doesn't post some pictures of his female fans & commentators. I think it would be enlightening.

Anonymous "Rabbit 3" December 14, 2013 4:53 PM  

FWIW, if I was wrong, I do apologize. I thought (and I still think) that your stats were suspicious, but I shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.

Also, I'm not a "rabbit"; I don't even post at John's blog that much. I think he's in the right when it comes to the feud between you two, but I also disagree with him occasionally.

Anonymous VD December 14, 2013 5:14 PM  

FWIW, if I was wrong, I do apologize. I thought (and I still think) that your stats were suspicious, but I shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.

Which stats do you think are suspicious? What would you agree would allay your suspicions? I mean, I just posted an actual screenshot of all last week's VP pageviews. And you can see Sitemeter right there. Has Scalzi ever done anything like that?

I think he's in the right when it comes to the feud between you two

So you agree he was right to threaten to quit SFWA if I was not expelled, to lie about his stats, and to claim that I do not understand satire? Do you understand that he was the one attacking me back when I didn't even know who he was?

Anyhow, where, exactly, do you think he is in the right?

Anonymous Krul December 14, 2013 6:03 PM  

So when can we expect a translation of Quantum Mortis into Lapine?

Anonymous LL December 14, 2013 6:20 PM  

Rabbit 3, would it make you feel better if Vox just declared those numbers like Scalzi has, versus providing proof? I know proof scares some folks.... If it makes you feel better, just don't look at the graphics and pretend Vox's word is just as equivalent as Scalzi's because it has been posted online. That's how it works, right?

Anonymous Ferd December 14, 2013 7:44 PM  

" He is a nobody that no one listens to, he can only win in this."

Frankly, i had never hear of Scalzi until i came to this blog by way of WND. Vox struck me as an interesting man with solid concepts and a quirky way of explaining the world.
Now i wonder if Scalzi hasn't benefited more from interacting with Vox and not the other way around.

Blogger pilgrim4life December 14, 2013 7:45 PM  

"But a great many of the kids know its bullshit and reject it."

That's probably true. They may not believe the BS, but very few will challenge it. Most will parrot what they are supposed to believe and learn to keep their heads down.

I would challenge liberal nonsense back in high school/college and it was typically me vs the teacher and a bunch of students in each debate. Many students probably agreed with positions I took, few would say anything.

One of the most destructive aspects of government schools is that they gradually wear people down. They know it's crap, but it's beaten into them until they lose their will to resist.

Anonymous Krul December 14, 2013 8:05 PM  

You won't get a response from Rabbit 3, VD. His conclusions come from his feelings.

He really can’t be assed to think about it too much, apparently.

Anonymous Harsh December 14, 2013 8:39 PM  

You won't get a response from Rabbit 3, VD. His conclusions come from his feelings.

He really can’t be assed to think about it too much, apparently.


It was a drive-by rabbiting.

Anonymous Grandmaster-B December 14, 2013 9:44 PM  

Good eye on Rabbit 2. He was the one that earlier in the post said he donated $250 to GOA.

He also closed with this (regarding traffic), talking to our own Phony no less:



A lot of people take a look at a chimp masturbating in a zoo, too. - Phony

I was not commenting on content or reasoning for traffic, I was commenting on the statement:

If only twenty people wind up reading his stupid blogs because of this, he’ll double his readership.

if you recall.

But I have no problem with people moving the goalposts from “he gets no traffic” to “his traffic is all from RHDS Hitler wannabe retards, so it doesn’t count”.

Carry on.


He's a Jr. Rabbit Hunter... with very large front teeth

Anonymous Harsh December 14, 2013 10:12 PM  

They are an odd group over at Whatever. They declare their donations proudly as if they are really making a difference. I honestly don't get it.

Anonymous tiredofitall December 14, 2013 10:22 PM  

"The Scalzi is great entertainment, at his expense of course." - Salt

Despite being a rabbit through and through, Ol Johnny boy is what's known online as a lolcow.


"They are an odd group over at Whatever. They declare their donations proudly as if they are really making a difference. I honestly don't get it." - Harsh

Well what good is charity unless you can lord it over someone else and get the public credit for doing it?

Blogger rcocean December 14, 2013 11:53 PM  

"I thought (and I still think) that your stats were suspicious, but I shouldn't have framed it as an assertion."

1-I think communism is right but shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.
2-I think the earth is flat but but shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.
3-I think you're a child molester but shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.
4-I think the holocaust never happened but shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.
5-I think there is no God but shouldn't have framed it as an assertion.

Hey, don't blame me, I just "think" stuff.

Blogger rcocean December 14, 2013 11:54 PM  

After all, I'm not asserting anything, even though I suspect you fuck pigs in your spare time.

But that's just what I "Think". Don't take it the wrong way or anything.

Anonymous Johnathan Knight December 19, 2013 9:04 AM  

Today, Scalzi admits that his traffic is down, but points to taking time off to write a novel as the reason.

To quote, from his twitter account:

"I'll note that traffic is down a bit on my blog this year, although I ascribe that to effectively taking off two month to write a book."

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