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Sunday, July 20, 2014

A hand overplayed

I think we can safely say that the world is now officially holocausted out, as more and more people across the West are unwilling to give Jews the benefit of the doubt when they cry anti-semite:
A new, unofficial report indicates that a Jewish doctor who claimed she was the victim of an antisemitic when she was thrown off of a JetBlue flight earlier this month was actually the aggressor in the mid-air dispute with a Palestinian woman who she said was a 'murderer' and that she probably had explosives in her bag.

The new report, which WPBF says it did not receive from the airline, Queens Doctor Lisa Rosenberg 'accused customer 9C of being a Palestinian murderer, and that her people were all murderers and that they murder children,' the station reported on Wednesday.

At the time of her getting escorted off the flight, on July 7, at an airport in Florida, Rosenberg told a local news outlet that she was called a 'Zionist pig' by the woman seated next to her.

In a phone interview with WPBF, the airline said that Rosenberg's version of events 'in no way reflects the report that we have.' In the unofficial report, a flight attendant described how Rosenberg 'went even further to suggest 9C had explosives in her bag and it would bring the aircraft down.'
In similar fashion, I noticed that both the French and British press have exposed Jews as the aggressors in the recent "street battles" in Paris, although you won't see this reported in any of the American newspapers, which inaccurately described the demonstrations as attacks and the subsequent attack of the demonstrators as a defense of the synagogue. But no synagogues were attacked that day; the various claims that two and three of them were attacked were confirmed to be false and there is video to prove it.
A group of 150 Jewish men were seen brandishing iron bars and cans of pepper spray as they clashed with Pro-Palestinian demonstrators in Paris. Video footage of the clashes show the group chanting racist slogans as they roamed the streets. It came as President Francois Hollande warned that he did not want to see ‘the Israeli-Palestinian conflict imported into France’.

A still taken from the video shows dozens of men in Paris walking down the streets armed with chairs and other weapons, before clashing with pro-Palestinian demonstrators. Around 150 mainly young men were seen carrying weapons, like chairs, and chanting racist slogans as they went on the rampage. French Jewish groups have complained about an increase in anti-Semitism in recent months, with many accusing Muslim youths of targeting them.

But a video shot close to the Place de la Bastille on Sunday, and verified by police before being posted on YouTube, appears to show pro-Israel groups are also actively involved in clashes. In Paris, CRS riot police did not arrest any of the group, thought to be linked to the Jewish Defence League, despite them openly fighting in broad daylight. In the video, those amongst the group can be heard chanting ‘**** you Palestine’ as they smash up chairs and metal tables to be used as missiles....

Alexis Bachelay, a Paris MP for the ruling Socialist party, said: ‘There has evidently been a media manipulation about who really got assaulted. These are extremely serious facts that need to be investigated thoroughly by the police. It is not the first time that young French people of Muslim origin are stigmatised by the media. French people of Muslim origin should be protected by the law when demonstrating. They should not be attacked by radical groups like the LDJ’.
Having been falsely accused many times of anti-semitism myself for nothing more than refusing to assume that all Jews are innocent angels at all times and devoid of all human failings (and I'm probably one of the very few individuals who has been personally cleared of the charge by the Jewish Defense League itself), I have learned to be extremely skeptical of all assertions of anti-semitism presented without evidence. As with women with sexism and blacks with racism, crying anti-semitism has become the first resort of any Jew caught with his hand in a cookie jar.

That doesn't mean anti-semitism doesn't exist. That doesn't mean there aren't people who wish to kill Jews for any number of reasons. That doesn't mean that every last synagogue in France isn't going to be burned to the ground. But it does mean that one should no more accept the word of a Jew on the matter than one should accept the word of a woman that she has been raped.

I am a Zionist because I am a nationalist. The Jews have a right to their homeland, Israel. They also have a right to invade Gaza because they were being attacked; hundreds of rocket launches is a legitimate casus belli. But they have no more right to Paris than the Arabs do, and the French would be wise to repatriate all of these bold defenders of their various homelands to let them fight it out there rather than in the heart of their capital city. Because it is patently obvious that neither side gives a damn about France.

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Anonymous jack July 20, 2014 1:07 PM  

@VD:
Cleared by the JDL itself. This is most interesting. You may not be able to say much more on the subject, though, I and the Ilk, might wish it so. Specifically, I would be interested if you asked the JDL to check the charges and give their endorsement of those charges or find them, as was the case, to be false. At any rate, it says much for the JDL that they would do something like this.

Anonymous Schwartzy July 20, 2014 1:10 PM  

My guess is that the vast majority of these Jews are French nationals and can't be REpatriated anywhere.

Anonymous VD July 20, 2014 1:19 PM  

If I recall correctly, someone complained about me to them. An officer from the US-based group subsequently emailed me to say they'd looked into my writings and found no reason to conclude that I was either anti-semitic or anti-Israel. I think the JDL takes anti-semitism much more seriously than either the SPLC or the ADL, which use it primarily to energize donors and aren't above manufacturing it if need be.

It was, as you can imagine, a big load off my shoulders. "Um, thanks?"

Anonymous Jerome Horowitz July 20, 2014 1:23 PM  

They wouldn't be the French if they didn't surrender at the first demonstration of violence!

Anonymous jack July 20, 2014 1:29 PM  

More kudos then to the JDL for their initiative in fact checking and going to the trouble of contacting you with their assessment. Would that our government were so fair and prompt.

Anonymous Eric Ashley July 20, 2014 1:36 PM  

Shades of the Black and Brown street battles in the Weimar Republic that led to its dldownfall?

I would say, M. are almost always wrong, and J. are sometimes wrong. Agreed that having a cheap 'Get Out of Jail' card is a corrupting influence.

Anonymous map July 20, 2014 1:42 PM  

I think the big problem that Israelis and Jews are not understanding is that Israel is not operating according to the standards established by the West.

In the West, any time a non-white, non-Western minority claims that they are being oppressed, live in an apartheid state and suffer inequality, that minority's claims are automatically treated as true. For example, America is racist because blacks and hispanics say it is racist; America is sexist because feminists say it is sexist, etc., etc.

The same standard is being applied to Israel. Israel treats Palestinians horribly because Israel gets in the way of Palestinian self-actualization. We know this because Palestinians say so. And why should you not believe the Palestinians? After all, you believe the blacks, the hispanics and the women, right?

Of course, Jews themselves have been disproportionately involved in engineering these circumstances in other Western countries. It's about time Israel followed suit.

Anonymous VD July 20, 2014 1:49 PM  

Jews themselves have been disproportionately involved in engineering these circumstances in other Western countries. It's about time Israel followed suit.

I'd rather see the West follow Israel's lead. Defend your borders and defend your demographics.

Anonymous map July 20, 2014 2:00 PM  

VD,

Yes, I would like the West to follow Israel's lead of defending borders and demographics. The problem is, the duel-citizens are disproportionately involved in preventing that in Western countries.

See Barbara Lerner Spectre

Anonymous YIH July 20, 2014 2:07 PM  

I have learned to be extremely skeptical of all assertions of anti-semitism presented without evidence. As with women with sexism and blacks with racism, crying anti-semitism has become the first resort of any Jew caught with his hand in a cookie jar.
The spray-painted swastika with the claim that some anti-semite did it was so common 20 years ago that a White activist known only as ''A. Wyatt Mann'' did this cartoon.
Now on various imageboards whenever the news item ''swastika found spray-painted...'' that same cartoon appears shortly thereafter.
Inevitably when the ''anti-semetic vandalism'' is investigated the vandal turns out to be jewish! The routine use of vastly exaggerated (or outright hoax) claims of 'hate' to elicit sympathy is so overused that when it happens it's ''yawn, jew crying wolf again''.

Anonymous Don July 20, 2014 2:22 PM  

Pournelle recently said that Niven's advice was that, "You shouldn't throw excrement at an armed man." That's pretty much on a national scale what the Gaza people are doing. It's not like they can militarily defeat the Israelis.

Blogger buzzardist July 20, 2014 2:29 PM  

Oh, come now, Vox...burning Paris is obviously a great way for the Jews to stick it to the Arabs and for the Arabs to stick it to the Jews! There is a land dispute in the Middle East? Burn Paris! It displays the deep capacity for rational thought of those involved on both sides in the conflict.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 20, 2014 2:33 PM  

What a continued 2000 year mess of things. Only God can work things out.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 20, 2014 2:57 PM  

Interesting that you're a "zionist" even though you think that the creation of Israel was unjust.

Didn't Palestinians start lobbing rockets because of the Israeli bombing of Gaza?

Anonymous 11B July 20, 2014 3:00 PM  

They wouldn't be the French if they didn't surrender at the first demonstration of violence!

If you are making this remark in reference to WW2, I am sure we could also make reference to other ethnics that did not put up a fight against the Nazis too. As far as I am concerned their stance in 732 buys them endearing respect.

Anonymous buzzcut July 20, 2014 3:08 PM  

Never bring a chair to a gunfight.

Blogger Master Doh-San July 20, 2014 3:13 PM  

Kind of makes you wonder about that whole Kristallnacht thing.

Blogger Crusader Corim July 20, 2014 3:14 PM  

Jerome, I am not French, but that meme has always pissed me off. No nation on Earth has as long and distinguished a military record as the French. Losing to the greatest military machine ever assembled is no cause for shame, and surrendering when the lost was obvious was the morally correct thing to do.

Anonymous 11B July 20, 2014 3:14 PM  

Does anyone have accurate data on murders and rapes in Israel committed by Arabs against Jews? Also, with all the thousands of rockets launched into Israel, how many Israelis have actually been killed?

I ask because the Israelis tell us they are in a state of war and have to take this action because the Palestinians are out to get them. At the same time our media, many of whom are co-ethnics of the Israelis, tell us that black on white crime is a figment of our imagination. They say violent crime rates are down. They say whites are more likely to be killed by fellow whites. They say blacks are not targeting whites.

Additionally, these folks push and promote Section 8 housing vouchers and busing to integrate our schools and communities.

Now there are approximately 40 times as many whites in the USA as Jews in Israel. So if 40K whites are being raped annually by blacks, and blacks are not at war with us, one would expect at least 1000 or more Arab on Jew rapes in Israel. Ditto for the amount of murders and other violent assaults.

Is this the case? Are Jews being attacked in Israel at the rates whites are being attacked by blacks in the USA? If not, why do they get to claim the Palestinians are at war with them, yet we are ordered to live side by side with blacks?

Anonymous PA July 20, 2014 3:20 PM  

They wouldn't be the French if they didn't surrender at the first demonstration of violence!

The Weekly Standard called. It wants its 2004 talking points back.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 20, 2014 3:23 PM  

"and surrendering when the lost was obvious was the morally correct thing to do."

Was it obvious though? To my knowledge the French had impressive military capabilities and were considered the strongest power in Europe before the war. Germans simply suprised and spooked them into submission with their speed.

Anonymous PA July 20, 2014 3:25 PM  

The French also didn't want to lose another one million of their young boys in another war.

Anonymous VD July 20, 2014 3:28 PM  

Interesting that you're a "zionist" even though you think that the creation of Israel was unjust.

It was. So was the breaking of numerous treaties with the Indian tribes by the U.S. government. But it's better for the Jews to be in Israel and it is also better for the West for the Jews to be in Israel. Everyone is better off but the Palestinians.

Blogger Doorstop July 20, 2014 3:30 PM  

I doubt Israel would've given Gaza to the PA (and later forcibly evicted all the Jewish residents) if they'd known that their land-for-peace concessions would result in a Hamas takeover, establishment of a rocket base with 32-mile border, and the area eventually being labelled "the largest concentration camp in the world." Brilliant move...

Blogger rcocean July 20, 2014 3:33 PM  

Given their response and past behavior I doubt many Frenchman "give a damn about France".

As for the Jews crying wolf over antisemitism. Why should they, or the blacks, homosexuals, women, or any other "protected minority" give up a weapon that brings so many advantages? As long as white people continue to think being racist/ intolerant/ sexist/ etc. is biggest crime in the world, this will never end.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben July 20, 2014 3:37 PM  

I remember watching a video where an idiot leftist Israeli Jew living in Sweden for decades was shocked that the Muslims she actively helped to import (she helped them navigate the immigration bureaucracy) attacked her son and now she feels unsafe and is going to leave Sweden.

She leaves and the Swedes have to put up with the barbarians that want to take over the country.

Anonymous Fnord P July 20, 2014 3:40 PM  

I mentioned this in the previous "French" thread but it was dead (it was an ex-thread..&c).

As I said there, I don't have a dog in this fight but it is clear that the French de souche (original stock) are ignored in the conflict as politicians kowtow systematically to the juice lobby and the immigrant masses. A perfect example of leftist doublethink

Ironically, the anti juice activists are tying themselves in knots trying to court the right kind of immigrants (whoever they maybe) since the establishment is so overtly pro-Zionist.

Yesterday it was the maghrebins' turn to destroy Paris:
http://galliawatch.blogspot.fr/ (attn: pro-juice blogger)

While we aren't allowed to know exactly how many cars the they burnt during the Algerian matches in the world cup or during their anti-Bastille day celebrations.

Its a real shame but those most affected aren't doing anything to stop it - they seriously believe the government will sort it out.

C'est la vie

Anonymous Will Best July 20, 2014 3:41 PM  

Interesting that you're a "zionist" even though you think that the creation of Israel was unjust.

Even if you thought it unjust, there is no way to justly unwind it. Which is why in the law there are things like the statute of limitations or adverse possession, that serve to end the legal rights of the injured party if too much time has passed.

Anonymous Noah B. July 20, 2014 3:52 PM  

"Losing to the greatest military machine ever assembled is no cause for shame, and surrendering when the lost was obvious was the morally correct thing to do."

A huge part of why the French didn't fight the Nazis was the political division in the country. Much of the productive class preferred the Nazis to the French socialists. Sound familiar?

Anonymous 11B July 20, 2014 3:53 PM  

I doubt Israel would've given Gaza to the PA (and later forcibly evicted all the Jewish residents) if they'd known that their land-for-peace concessions would result in a Hamas takeover, establishment of a rocket base with 32-mile border, and the area eventually being labelled "the largest concentration camp in the world." Brilliant move...

If it could be done, I'd trade Mexico for Gaza along our southern border. It seems the thousands of rockets the Palis have fired have done less damage than the tens of millions of vibrants we have imported.

Anonymous VD July 20, 2014 4:01 PM  

She leaves and the Swedes have to put up with the barbarians that want to take over the country.

Sure, but in fairness, they were dumb enough to let her, and them, into the country.

Blogger IM2L844 July 20, 2014 4:14 PM  

Vox, I've noticed an increased tendency for you to go the extra mile recently in elaborating on your positions even when they've been rather obvious. What has brought this on?

Anonymous VD July 20, 2014 4:38 PM  

I've noticed an increased tendency for you to go the extra mile recently in elaborating on your positions even when they've been rather obvious. What has brought this on?

Increased attempts by dishonest critics to put words in my mouth or otherwise falsely characterize my positions. This will be another all-time traffic month, and the more people that read here, the more intensely some people will try to DISQUALIFY DISQUALIFY what I'm writing.

I learned a lot from my SFWA experience. And one of the lessons was to never give them ANYTHING to use if at all possible. It was a real eye-opener to see how far my critics would go in blowing something out of proportion and how hypocritical they were willing to be seen to be. So, unless I miss something somehow and screw up, everything I give them now will either be a trap or useless.

Anonymous YIH July 20, 2014 4:48 PM  

Believe it or not, I'm also a zionist. For the simple reason that as time goes by and they keep ''poisoning the well'' in one country after another at least they'll have Israel to flee to this time.

OT: The sparklepunter saga continues.

Blogger LAZ July 20, 2014 4:56 PM  

@ VD: OT but, what are your thoughts on "Kindle Unlimited"?

Blogger Baloo July 20, 2014 6:02 PM  

Nicely balanced thinking. Reblogged and quibcagged:
Some food for thought about Israel, Gaza, and our foreign policy and our immigration policy.

Blogger Hermit July 20, 2014 6:10 PM  

The ideal homeland of the jews would be Madagascar.
The nazi Madagascar plan was much better than what the UK did in Israel

Anonymous Steve July 20, 2014 6:42 PM  

A Muslim territory, taken and then ruled by the British, never before independent, and the British let in hundreds of thousands of non-Muslim settlers, until the settlers decide they do not want to live either under the British or the Muslims. And they make a tremendous go of it. That would be the Chinese in Singapore. Not ruled by Malaysia, is it? Oh also Israel. Nothing unjust about it in either case. In any event, it is apparent that a country can have Jews or Muslims but it may not have both. I expect the French Jews to leave for Israel. This will be a tremendous gain for Israel, seeing that French Jews have won 9 Nobel prizes - about 15% of all French prizes, even though Jews are less than 1% of the French population. Whether or not it is a loss for France, I don't know. But if a gain, as implied by many above, then it is a win-win. For some reason I doubt whether or not the Muslim population of France (at least 10 times larger than the Jewish) will make quite the same kind of contribution the Jews made to France though. Good luck France.

Anonymous Grinder July 20, 2014 7:06 PM  

Having been falsely accused many times of anti-semitism myself for nothing more than refusing to assume that all Jews are innocent angels at all times and devoid of all human failings (and I'm probably one of the very few individuals who has been personally cleared of the charge by the Jewish Defense League itself)

Well good for you. So you've been cleared by the jews, huh? I think that document is frame worthy. At the very least you are entitled to a kosher tattoo. Pick out one you like and let us know. Personally I would be angered by jews who have the nerve to think I give a damn enough what they thought of me to send me such a message just as I would by negroes, tamils or aboriginals.

Anonymous Heaviside July 20, 2014 7:11 PM  

Really? I'm surprised the JDL found the time to investigate you in between all the book burnings and terrorist attacks.

Antisemitism is the highest form of patriotism.

Anonymous LES July 20, 2014 7:22 PM  

Long ago an ancient people, a civilization and culture, were forced from
their sacred land and dispersed to live in exile.
The memories of their homeland and rich spiritual heritage were not
forgotten and each succeeding generation longed for the eventual return
of their people to their holy land. Eventually they slowly immigrated back to their land. One day critical mass was reached and this special race finally
attained enough of a population that they declared the land their own.
Civil unrest broke out as the current residents didn’t like being dispossessed of the land they considered theirs, too. Violence erupted and many people fled for safety in the countryside. When the fighting was over the people who had fled were not permitted to return to their homes and farms and means of livelihood. The land, the homes and the government were now under complete control of the immigrants who claimed the ancient land as their own. The dispossessed people became refugees and the neighboring states refused to accept the large numbers of homeless. The refugees were forced to live in camps in the desert. In the meantime, the immigrants who claimed their homeland anew called it Aztlan. “Por La Raza toda, Fuera de La Raza nada” (“For The Race everything, Outside the Race nothing”) I am not a Zionist.

Anonymous Guy from Amazon July 20, 2014 8:41 PM  

"The Jews have a right to their homeland, Israel."

I disagree entirely. The World Jewish Congress agreed to have German Jews betray their own country during WWI in return for England capturing the Holy Land and allowing Jews to move there. Jews then started terror, both against the local residents and the British, going so far to to torture and kill British troops, and blow up British families.

Jews taught the displaced locals terror, and now they have reaped terror. back I dislike Muslims more than Jews because of their terror against the US, but the hands of Jews were red with terror blood first as they seized the Holy Land from its residents through treason and terror.

So I oppose Hamas, but only because I am an American and America First is my policy.

Blogger Jon Drake July 20, 2014 9:07 PM  

Vox, here's the deal. In World War Two the Jews did not fight back in an organized fashion, with a few sporadic exceptions, and look what happened.

It ain't gonna happen again, Vox. Any suggestion of a threat to the Jews is going to be answered.

The world needs to learn that.

And if the worst comes to worst, The Samson Option is real. Take note of it. Learn it. Know it.

Blogger Jon Drake July 20, 2014 9:09 PM  

You do know the Jews have nukes, don't you?

They won't go down alone this time, quietly marching to the gas chambers.

Blogger mmaier2112 July 20, 2014 9:48 PM  

So the right thing to do is nuke European capitals instead of their Arab enemies?

Yeah... screw Israel. If they're wiped off the face of the Earth, I really don't give a damn.

Anonymous Heaviside July 20, 2014 9:52 PM  

>And if the worst comes to worst, The Samson Option is real. Take note of it. Learn it. Know it.

Our greatest allies! The love us sooo much!

Anonymous zen0 July 20, 2014 10:26 PM  

@ Jon Drake

And if the worst comes to worst, The Samson Option is real. Take note of it. Learn it. Know it.

As long as i remember, the Mutually Assured Destruction option was standard doctrine amongst nuclear powers, you know, like America, for instance.

Now its just the Jooos?

Anonymous zen0 July 20, 2014 10:43 PM  

@ Heaviside

Antisemitism is the highest form of patriotism.

I like it. Very catchy. Hopefully it includes the Arabs who claim to be Semites as well.

The Jews, however, consider Arabs to be Hamites, because Hagar, mother of Ishmael, was Egyptian.

Just another thing they refuse to agree on.

Blogger Jon Drake July 20, 2014 10:54 PM  

maier, the Jews won't go alone.

Lets see how the rest of the world enjoys joining them in the Holocaust the next time.

Blogger Jon Drake July 20, 2014 10:55 PM  

zeno, that's the point...it won't just be the JEWS this time.

It means everybody. How about trying out those Nuclear Winter Theories? Ya game?

Blogger Jon Drake July 20, 2014 10:58 PM  

The Jews won't go into the ovens alone this time.

The Cities of their enemies and phony allies will become ovens too if a nuclear exchange takes place.

Anonymous Steve July 20, 2014 10:59 PM  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov00rNamNig

See this for a Berlin "clergyman". Since antisemitism is the highest form of patriotism (according to the post above) this guy must be a super patriotic German. I wonder what this super-patriotic German clergyman thinks of his fellow "Germans". I wonder if he enjoys his sausage and beer.

Anonymous zen0 July 20, 2014 11:08 PM  

@Jon Drake

Lets see how the rest of the world enjoys joining them in the Holocaust the next time.

Enough with the propaganda. All kinds of other people died in the extermination camps, not just Jews. There have actually been other genocidal projects before that one.

Too bad fetusus do not have Nukes. 50 million and counting in the US alone.


Anonymous Tom July 20, 2014 11:09 PM  

Vox you're supposed to be an awca vut you cant even upset the jews properly?

Anonymous zen0 July 20, 2014 11:11 PM  

@ Jon Drake

The Cities of their enemies and phony allies will become ovens too if a nuclear exchange takes place.

Oh, sorry, you mean the FANTASY SAMSON OPTION. I thought you meant the real Samson option where they just nuke whoever is actually attacking them.

Never mind.

Blogger Whiskey July 20, 2014 11:18 PM  

Vox you are wrong, and completely wrong, in asserting that Jews have no right to be in France any more than Muslim.

UNLIKE Muslims, Jews assimilated deeply into France, while reactionary Catholic elements (the Dreyfuss Affair, the Petain Government) persecuted them for merely being Jewish.

With an angry, hate filled mob of Low IQ Muslims and Blacks coming for them, they were wise and correct to make weapons and prepare to fight.

No one and nothing will come your way unless you fight for it. This is an eternal truth.

It is also time to get real on anti-Semitism. Yes a few low IQ losers among Whites endorse it, feeling that "the Jews" have somehow "tricked" the otherwise virtuous White population into degeneracy and mass globalism and multiculturalism and PC and the like. The overwhelming amount of Whites either love all that stuff anyway or the tiny majority that reject it understand that the White population could not get enough of degeneracy when they got a whiff.

Lets get real here for a minute. The overwhelming number of anti-Semites who are real, are Black or Muslim or both. Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala goes around making his arrested Hitler salute at places where Jews were murdered by Nazis, or Muslim terrorists, and his followers (Africans, Muslims) love it because all are low IQ people who hate Jews for having High IQs.

Anti-Semitism is merely the expression of low IQ losers who hate those with higher IQs. As such, Africans and Muslims will always make its majority, and Japanese, Northern Italians, and the like will not find it attractive (often being smarter than many Jews themselves). If we are honest we will acknowledge this truth.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 20, 2014 11:22 PM  

FUBAR Nation Ben:
I remember watching a video where an idiot leftist Israeli Jew living in Sweden for decades was shocked that the Muslims she actively helped to import (she helped them navigate the immigration bureaucracy) attacked her son and now she feels unsafe and is going to leave Sweden.

She leaves and the Swedes have to put up with the barbarians that want to take over the country.


Don't feel too sorry for them. Most Swedes worship their burgeoning new aristocracy of Musloids and Africans more ardently than the Israelites of old worshipped the golden calf. Christianity is dead and gone in Sweden, and in most of the EUSSR - even Vatican City. That which operates under the Christian trade-name is just negro-worship. They really think D'Won Mocha Messiah is the second coming. They have lots of brethren here in the Banksta Banana Republick, especially in places like Minnesota.

Blogger Whiskey July 20, 2014 11:33 PM  

A great many Jews were actively hunted down in France (unlike Italy it must be said) with enthusiastic help from the rightist, Christian, Vichy French who wanted an old regime back, and enthusiastically saw themselves as part of Hitler's Europea Empire. Around 77,000 Jews out of a pre-war population of 350K were killed in various death camps or summarily shot. For Italy, it is 7500 out of 44000.

So I can understand being armed and ready. It is wise and particularly with a low IQ rabble of Blacks and Muslims to be armed.

As for France and surrendering, France was beaten by Verdun. Afterwards the bloodletting was so high, that French forces even in the massive advances against a disintegrating, starving, half-its-forces killed German Army advanced only ultra cautiously. Compared to the British, who had horrific losses but were not bled white, the French were never the same. They had for example a massive mutiny in 1917. Most of the Army refused to fight on the offensive unless it was going to be a walk-over.

The French in WWII were beaten before the War began. They built useless fortifications that were quite useful for 1914 but useless for 1940. They dispersed their planes and tanks, which were better than the Germans then. They had no concentration of forces and wanted to fight only on the defensive.

Afterwards, they were unable to beat the Vietnamese or the Algerians, and after surrendering in both cases they let half of North Africa immigrate without even a protest.

Individual French soldiers are brave and skilled. But clearly the French people have no stomach for a fight, nor have they had one since Verdun. The British, the fight went out of them around Suez 1956 or maybe after the Falklands. But it seems dissipated. The Germans? Could not invade a fabulous gay disco. The Russians have fighting spirit but are plagued by incompetence and stupidity and brutality (towards their own soldiers) in their forces.

Those who have fighting spirit -- Muslim, Blacks, etc. seem to have nothing else. No organization, no indigenous technology, no logistics, nothing.

Anonymous Steve July 21, 2014 12:26 AM  

1. "Anti-Semitism is merely the expression of low IQ losers who hate those with higher IQs.". Today this is undoubtedly true but it was not always true. Germans, for example, have high IQs and were the most technically advanced people in Europe. Antisemitism may be an expression of losers, but not always low IQ losers.

2. The old Ashkenazi Jewish population in France, is very highly assimilated (having been in France since the Middle Ages- the greatest Jewish legal commentator of the Middle Ages, Rashi, was from France) but the Jewish Sephardi population which came from Algeria in the 1960s, is probably not quite as assimilated, although far more so than the Muslims who arrived at the same time. I suspect that the Jews who decided (I think prudently) not to rely on the French police for protection were Sephardi; they know the Muslims well. The Ashkenazi elites would not be fighting on the streets in France.

3. I am sure the Arabs and Muslims know full well Israel has second strike capability on their submarines. If Israel goes, the Muslim world, which is highly urbanized (think Tehran, Cairo etc.) will not survive. That is why there are no longer conventional wars against Israel. They are useless. It is Hamas which is trying for the Samson option. They do want to bring the Middle East down upon their heads. But the Arab states are not going for it; they have no sympathy for Hamas. There are more marches in London than in any Arab capital.

OpenID ravenclaw-eric July 21, 2014 12:35 AM  

I'd have no problem with Israel if the Israelis were doing whatever they did under their own steam. As things stand, though, the US is implicated in what they do, and our idiotic habit of not pulling the choke chain on them when they get out of line isn't helping.

During our incursion into Lebanon, I have read that the US asked Israel for the information the Israelis had about Syrian air defenses, and we were told to go f*ck ourselves. Those air defenses ended up shooting down a couple of our planes. That's by no means the only time that the Israelis have made it clear that they'd hypovehiculate us in a red-hot second if they saw enough advantage in so doing. The Pollard affair was by no means the only time they've spied on us.

They strike me as hypocrites and ingrates, and I am at a loss as to what they bring to the table that's worth 1/100 of the trouble that comes with having them there.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami July 21, 2014 12:51 AM  

"Around 77,000 Jews out of a pre-war population of 350K were killed in various death camps or summarily shot. For Italy, it is 7500 out of 44000."


77,000 plus 7,500. Let's call that 85,000. So where did the other 5,915,000 come from?

Blogger automatthew July 21, 2014 1:11 AM  

"So where did the other 5,915,000 come from?"

It is better than 5,915,000 men should die for the people.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami July 21, 2014 1:11 AM  

"I am at a loss as to what they bring to the table that's worth 1/100 of the trouble that comes with having them there."


Making people think we aren't low-IQ losers, for one.

Blogger Zimri July 21, 2014 1:33 AM  

"our idiotic habit of not pulling the choke chain on them when they get out of line isn't helping."

Counteracted by the other team pulling the choke chain when they aren't out of line. . .

It is not up to the US, a sovereign nation, to decide upon when another nation is "out of line" when dealing with its own enemies. To say otherwise is to commit the US to supporting - what, exactly? A Gazan state against its enemies from Israel and Egypt?

Your comment is neo-connery across the Looking Glass.

Anonymous Heaviside July 21, 2014 1:53 AM  

>It is not up to the US, a sovereign nation, to decide upon when another nation is "out of line" when dealing with its own enemies.

Well, that certainly seems to be the attitude we've embraced for quite a while.

Anonymous Heaviside July 21, 2014 2:16 AM  

>Anti-Semitism is merely the expression of low IQ losers who hate those with higher IQs.

That's rich. I'm Japanese.

Blogger automatthew July 21, 2014 2:31 AM  

Whiskey is well known as a Jewish propagandist. Just ignore him.

Anonymous map July 21, 2014 2:37 AM  

I'm curious...what are the Israelis going to nuke? London, Paris and Rome? New York, Chicago, L.A? You mean a bunch of liberal cities? That's a feature, not a bug.

Nuclear winter is all over-rated. Fear-mongering fairy tales...nothing more.

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:12 AM  

So much to respond too and I just saw this thread -- I'm amid the rockets and more in Tel Aviv. Will come back later after some work. I should get a ping whenever Vox mentions Israel. :)

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:15 AM  

If anyone has any legitimate, honest questions about the situation right now, feel free to post. (Trolling and questions from the usual suspects that actually are based in anti-Semitism will be ignored.)

I'll answer as objectively as I can but note when things are my opinion.

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:25 AM  

11B July 20, 2014 3:14 PM

Also, with all the thousands of rockets launched into Israel, how many Israelis have actually been killed?


From just rocket fire, I believe two. (I'm not including casualties inside Gaza following the invasion.) One civilian volunteer (as in, delivering donated food or something) was killed by mortar fire just outside Gaza, and one Israeli Bedouin was killed near Dimona.

For English-language updates, I suggest the Times of Israel: www.timesofisrael.com

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:39 AM  

VD July 20, 2014 3:28 PM
Interesting that you're a "zionist" even though you think that the creation of Israel was unjust.

It was.


I hate to broach this subject because it's extremely nuanced and detailed, but here we go.

By 1918, the Ottoman Empire included the southern Syrian province of Palestine. This territory mainly included Arabs but also had significant Jewish populations in Jerusalem, the northern section, and along the coastline. Jewish immigration had been steadily increasing as a result of both increasing anti-Semitism and increasing Jewish nationalist sentiment in Europe.,

After the end of World War I, the British and French split up the Ottoman Empire. Britain got the former province of Palestine. Tensions between Jews and Arabs in Palestine continued to grow as Jewish immigration increasing, with the British trying to remain neutral (though actually becoming more pro-Arab out of a need for oil and Arab sympathy). Britain eventually gave the part of Palestine east of the Jordan River to an Arab ally to create the future country of Jordan.

The UN stepped in and proposed an agreement. Britain agreed to leave Palestine. Then, the remaining area west of the Jordan River would be split into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews agreed; the Arabs did not. When the Jews declared the State of Israel in 1948 after the British left, the Arabs declared war.

After the smoke cleared and a cease-fire was declared, Israel was left with its pre-1967 borders. Jordan controlled the West Bank, and Egypt had the Gaza Strip. That was the situation until the Six Day War in 1967.

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:43 AM  

VD July 20, 2014 3:28 PM
Interesting that you're a "zionist" even though you think that the creation of Israel was unjust.

It was.


I hate to broach this subject because it's extremely nuanced and detailed, but here we go.

By 1918, the Ottoman Empire included the southern Syrian province of Palestine. This territory mainly included Arabs but also had significant Jewish populations in Jerusalem, the northern section, and along the coastline. Jewish immigration had been steadily increasing as a result of both increasing anti-Semitism and increasing Jewish nationalist sentiment in Europe.,

After the end of World War I, the British and French split up the Ottoman Empire. Britain got the former province of Palestine. Tensions between Jews and Arabs in Palestine continued to grow as Jewish immigration increasing, with the British trying to remain neutral (though actually becoming more pro-Arab out of a need for oil and Arab sympathy). Britain eventually gave the part of Palestine east of the Jordan River to an Arab ally to create the future country of Jordan.

(cont)

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:45 AM  

The UN stepped in and proposed an agreement. Britain agreed to leave Palestine. Then, the remaining area west of the Jordan River would be split into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews agreed; the Arabs did not. When the Jews declared the State of Israel in 1948 after the British left, the Arabs declared war.

After the smoke cleared and a cease-fire was declared, Israel was left with its pre-1967 borders. Jordan controlled the West Bank, and Egypt had the Gaza Strip. That was the situation until the Six Day War in 1967.

Interesting note: "Palestinian" was not used to refer to Arabs in Israel, the West Bank, or Gaza until after 1967. It was a genius marketing ploy. Until 1948, everyone in that area was a Jew or Arab. After 1948, the Jews became Israelis. After 1967, the Arabs became "Palestinians" to convey the message that their original land had been taken.

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 5:07 AM  

Vox, can you delete the double post above? I lost my place when I had to take shelter for a few minutes after an air-raid siren blew in Tel Aviv and then the Iron Dome intercepted two rockets above me.

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 6:24 AM  

Vox, I think you're factually inaccurate.

You wrote: But no synagogues were attacked that day; the various claims that two and three of them were attacked were confirmed to be false and there is video to prove it.

The Daily Mail article you quoted: Six pro-Palestinian demonstrators were arrested on Sunday, accused of trying to break into two Paris synagogues. Two Jewish men were reportedly injured.

I can find other accounts in credible sources of people trying to attack synagogues.

The whole situation is messy, and it's far to easy to oversimplify. Here's what I think probably happened. One situation was pro-Palestinian protesters attacking a synagogue in which Jews were holding a memorial for the killed Israeli tens. The other situation was (likely) JDL-affiliated Jews clashing with pro-Palestinian protesters at the same time.

Anonymous Steve July 21, 2014 10:50 AM  

Where did the other 5 million come from: Poland, USSR, all the other European countries. But I doubt you want the answer. In any event, now, today, the Israeli Jews are winning. The birthrate of Israeli Jewish women is over 3 Children per woman. German women barely have one. The future belongs to those who show up for it. And the Israeli Jews are showing up. Those are facts you are going to have trouble arguing about. They are here and now.

Anonymous LES July 21, 2014 10:51 AM  

Well, Sammy, you insult the intelligence of Vox's readers. I have read "What Price Israel?" by Jewish-American Alfred Lilienthal and "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Israeli historian and professor Ilan Pappe.

The Jewish settlers were committing ethnic cleansing of the Arab towns in Palestine for over a year before the end of the British Mandate and Israel declaring itself an independent nation in 1948. That's where the majority of the refugees came from.

The Jewish leaders intention from the beginning was to take all the land away from the indigenous population of the Palestine territory. Yes, Palestine was never a real country because it was always part of a greater empire.

Now the question is: does Israel kill all the Palestinians or try to keep them cooped up in open air concentration camps forever?

Fred On Everything has a good take on this. http://www.fredoneverything.net/Israel2.shtml

Anonymous Michael July 21, 2014 10:53 AM  

I'm not nearly as disturbed about the Israel-Palestinian protests in France as I am the implications of Vox needing to be "cleared" by the JDL of accusations of anti-Semitism. Really? And what would've happened if they didn't?

Blogger Shimshon July 21, 2014 11:06 AM  

Samuel Scott, you are just confirming Vox' point that there was, from the Arab's perspective, an invasion. A massive influx as you quoted. Did this massive influx tilt the balance towards the Jews? Given the numbers, it tilted it enough to make a difference. Score for the Jews.

Anonymous Fnord P July 21, 2014 11:30 AM  

Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala goes around making his arrested Hitler salute at places where Jews were murdered

You see, this is where you let yourself down and embarrass yourself in front of everyone by showing that you are just spitting out the mainstream propaganda on their behalf without the slightest bit of research to back you up:

Try following the logic:
1. Dieudonné is anti-establishment as is the quenelle gesture.
2. The establishment in France is predominantly Jewish, pro-Jewish or Zionist.
3. The establishment therefore claim the gesture is anti-Semitic (ironically proving his point).

It is not a Hitler (sic) salute (even by their own twisted logic the establishment claim it is an inverted Nazi salute – surely that would mean it is an anti-Nazi gesture? Again, this would only make sense as anti-Semitic if the Israelis were the Nazis – hmmm.)

Originally, it is an anti-establishment gesture representing ‘the long arm of the establishment’ going all the way up your rectum to make sure they’ve got their hands on every last thing you might own and used as a way of saying “Enough!” to the powers that be.

A very hateful old man (who just happens to be in charge of the most powerful Jewish lobby in France) invented the ‘inverse Nazi salute’ interpretation on his own (and simultaneously twisted the original meaning by saying it was ‘sodomising the victims of the holocaust’). I believe Dieudonné is suing this sad man for slander as there is no proof at all of this interpretation except in his own imagination.

However, which version gets propagated by the media and by the useful idiots? The real version based on facts and evidence or the ravings of a wicked old man? 50 million Frenchmen can’t be wrong? Yes they can and they are. Repeating a lie over and over doesn’t make it a truth no matter how many people believe it.

OK, now let’s deal with your second major error regarding Dieudonné:

Please show me one picture of Dieudonné doing a quenelle ”at places (sic) where Jews were murdered”. Just one, go on please.

Oh you can’t. That’s because he never did. I assure you, if he had done such a thing it would be easy to find and he would have been crucified even more by the media for doing so.

Alain Soral has a picture at the holocaust memorial in Berlin (I know they’re easy to confuse, ones a portly, black, bearded right-winger the other is a white, bald, Marxist boxing coach). Their fans send in pictures in front of Synagogues etc. but most of them are sick and tired of the enforced prostration and secondary guilt for a fact of history that had absolutely nothing to do with them or anyone one they know.

Anti-Semitism is merely the expression of low IQ losers who hate those with higher IQs.
You keep using that acronym. I’m not sure it means what you think it means.

You know, if I wanted to hear Whiskey’s point of view I can just switch on one of the many government subsidised TV stations or read one of the government subsidised newspapers or magazine where the same trite nonsense is repeated and repeated day and night. I come here for an alternative perspective...

Anonymous Fnord P July 21, 2014 11:36 AM  

automatthew Whiskey is well known as a Jewish propagandist. Just ignore him.

I wish I'd read that before i typed my response - he's never going to read it.

This really highlights the enforced dialectic: The juice good, maghrébins bad or vice-versa.

As someone on the ground I can tell you that both groups are a bunch of tossers.

Blogger Tommy Hass July 21, 2014 11:50 AM  

"Even if you thought it unjust, there is no way to justly unwind it. Which is why in the law there are things like the statute of limitations or adverse possession, that serve to end the legal rights of the injured party if too much time has passed."

I don't think that has happened yet. I also think that the continuous activity and existence of the UN means that you cannot say "that was the, this is now". We are STILL in the "UN era". We are no longer in the "let's colonize the New World and civilize the savages" era, which is why I doubt that the Indian tribes example is a good one.

I think that most muzzies know that a complete fixing of the situation isn't realistic. But if the jews actually manned up and admitted that it was unjust, that alone would be a gesture of good will.

"Lets get real here for a minute. The overwhelming number of anti-Semites who are real, are Black or Muslim or both. Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala goes around making his arrested Hitler salute at places where Jews were murdered by Nazis, or Muslim terrorists, and his followers (Africans, Muslims) love it because all are low IQ people who hate Jews for having High IQs."

No this is why they hate you Whiskey. You're one of the most odious people that have ever graced this planet, despite your accoplishments. These 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. The Germans were also smart as hell and they put your guys into the ovens.

Just look at your dishonest statement about the "arrested Nazi salute". Everyone with even a BIT of knowledge knows that that is horseshit. Yet you parrot the line that your fellow Jews in France invented, as you claim that there is no "conspiracy".

If you want to understand why people hate Jews, look at this:

http://de.tinypic.com/r/2melx3/8

Anonymous 11B July 21, 2014 12:58 PM  

I wish I'd read that before i typed my response - he's never going to read it.

Yeah, that is his MO. He shows up on a thread when the discussion starts to get uncomfortable from his point of view, he makes some wild allegations which causes most people to immediately respond, then he never shows up to debate. Meanwhile the thread has successfully been hijacked. Then a few days later he will show up on a new thread and repeat the process.

Anonymous takin' a look July 21, 2014 1:47 PM  

Whiskey.....

-Facepalm-

No, it is NOT the low IQs that hate you, those folks are dying off.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/13/opinion/sunday/seth-stephens-davidowitz-the-data-of-hate.html?_r=2

The above article, if read through, will show that the anti-jew/racist low IQ, shiftless classes are actually declining or holding steady in numbers as opposed to the younger middle-class and above whites who hate your guts. THAT number is soaring rapidly. And most of it seems to be coming from the young whites who were forced to live in the "Vibrancies" and fled as soon as they could.

Your Tribe makes up 15 million out of 7 billion people, yet wherever you go, you inevitably get hated on, why? Well, your Talmud provides answers, but really, it's mostly to do with your Tribe's nepotistic predominance in the Host Nation's power structure and being complicit in destroying it apart. Two examples these High IQ racists are reading about:

The 1965 Ted Kennedy Immigration Act, who wrote and implemented it. These were the jews Norbert Schlei,Jacob Javits,Julius Edelson,Max Rabb,Harry Rosenfield among others.

The jew Lazar Kaganovich, the Butcher of the Ukraine, who, with his fellow bolshevik jews, starved and massacred 5 to 10 million Ukrainians, genociding the Kulak ethnic/cultural groups.

And those are just the tip of the iceberg. Here is the reality on the ground Whiskey, if jews simply had admitted to their past crimes, showed as much remorse and guilt and desire for justice for the evil they committed upon others as they manufactured and propagandized into their White gentile Host nations, they would be in a much,much better position with regards to the rest of the world. They didn't, they won't, and so they are reaping the results of the chutzpah they've expressed over the past 60+ years.

Really, you all would have been better off jettisoning the Talmud and living as Karaites.

Anonymous takin' a look July 21, 2014 1:59 PM  

One more thing, you jews would do well to live as humbly and self-reflectively as Isaac Asimov did. Hell, we ALL would do very well doing so.

http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2010/03/asimov-on-antisemitism-and-wider-prejudice.html

An excerpt:

"I publicly expressed my view on this only once, and in delicate circumstances. It was in May 1977. I was invited to a round-table discussion whose participants included Elie Wiesel, who survived the Holocaust and hasn't spoken about anything else since. That day, he irritated me by claiming that you couldn't trust academics, or technicians, because they had helped make possible the Holocaust. What a sweeping generalization that is! And precisely the kind of remark that antisemites might make: "I don't trust Jews, because once, Jews crucified my Savior".

I let the others argue for a moment while I brooded over my resentment; then, unable to contain myself any longer, I spoke up: "Mr. Wiesel, you're wrong; the fact that a group of people has suffered appalling persecution does not mean it is inherently good and innocent. All that the persecution proves is that this group was in a position of weakness. If the Jews were in a position of strength, who knows if they wouldn't become persecutors?"

To which Wiesel replied, very angrily: "Give me one example of the Jews persecuting anyone!"

Naturally, I was expecting this. "At the time of the Maccabees, in the second century BCE, John Hyrcanus of Judea conquered Edom and gave the Edomites the choice of conversion to Judaism, or death. Not being idiots, the Edomites converted, but afterwards they were still treated as inferiors because even though they had become Jews, they were still originally Edomites".

Wiesel, even more upset, said: "There is no other example."

"There is no other period in history where Jews have exercised power", I replied. "The only time they had it, they behaved just like the others."

That put an end to the discussion. I would add however that the audience was entirely on the side of Elie Wiesel."



Anonymous takin' a look July 21, 2014 2:00 PM  

Isaac Asimov does a very good job of breaking this down.

http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2010/03/asimov-on-antisemitism-and-wider-prejudice.html

"I publicly expressed my view on this only once, and in delicate circumstances. It was in May 1977. I was invited to a round-table discussion whose participants included Elie Wiesel, who survived the Holocaust and hasn't spoken about anything else since. That day, he irritated me by claiming that you couldn't trust academics, or technicians, because they had helped make possible the Holocaust. What a sweeping generalization that is! And precisely the kind of remark that antisemites might make: "I don't trust Jews, because once, Jews crucified my Savior".

I let the others argue for a moment while I brooded over my resentment; then, unable to contain myself any longer, I spoke up: "Mr. Wiesel, you're wrong; the fact that a group of people has suffered appalling persecution does not mean it is inherently good and innocent. All that the persecution proves is that this group was in a position of weakness. If the Jews were in a position of strength, who knows if they wouldn't become persecutors?"

To which Wiesel replied, very angrily: "Give me one example of the Jews persecuting anyone!"

Naturally, I was expecting this. "At the time of the Maccabees, in the second century BCE, John Hyrcanus of Judea conquered Edom and gave the Edomites the choice of conversion to Judaism, or death. Not being idiots, the Edomites converted, but afterwards they were still treated as inferiors because even though they had become Jews, they were still originally Edomites".

Wiesel, even more upset, said: "There is no other example."

"There is no other period in history where Jews have exercised power", I replied. "The only time they had it, they behaved just like the others."

That put an end to the discussion. I would add however that the audience was entirely on the side of Elie Wiesel."

Anonymous takin' a look July 21, 2014 2:24 PM  

Argh, double_post, I thought blogger ate the first one, remove the second one please.

Anonymous Map July 21, 2014 2:32 PM  

Samuel Scott,

I think Vox and the rest of us would like an answer to the following question, just to put things into perspective: Should America adopt the same immigration, demographic and defensive policies as Israel? If America were to adopt such policies, then is it right for it to do so?

Anonymous Samuel Scott July 21, 2014 4:32 PM  

Map July 21, 2014 2:32 PM

Samuel Scott,

I think Vox and the rest of us would like an answer to the following question, just to put things into perspective: Should America adopt the same immigration, demographic and defensive policies as Israel? If America were to adopt such policies, then is it right for it to do so?


I'm afraid I cannot give a satisfactory answer. I am in no position to say what America should do because I am Israeli. It is up to each country to decide for itself what it thinks is best for itself and/or the world as a whole.

But what I can state is that very few countries are similar. Each country has its own history, geopolitical status, ethnic makeup, type of government, economic situations, national values, the presence of friendly or not neighbors, allied and enemy countries, and countless other variables. So, it rarely makes sense to project one context onto another (different) one.

Anonymous Fake Herzog July 21, 2014 5:14 PM  

Here is a good story that breaks down what happened in Paris on July 13:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/55180#.U8xixZD7uuk.yahoomail

Anonymous Heaviside July 21, 2014 6:45 PM  

>The birthrate of Israeli Jewish women is over 3 Children per woman. German women barely have one. The future belongs to those who show up for it. And the Israeli Jews are showing up. Those are facts you are going to have trouble arguing about. They are here and now.

If you want to move this discussion into the realm of amoral facts then I will say that it will still be possible for us to kill them all, no matter how fast they breed or how many nuclear weapons they acquire. And why should we feel any guilt in doing it?

Anonymous ogunsiron July 21, 2014 7:34 PM  

@Fnord P :
I found it very funny when Alain Jakubowitz of the LICRA (it's like a french ADL) called the quenelle "une sodomisation des victimes de la shoah". Can't wait for a metal band to write a song based on that line!

I of course agree with you that the quenelle has been for years and years and anti-establishment gesture and nothing else. For example, there were many examples of the antigay marriage people doing quenelles in the presence of french government officials like the utterly despicable Taubira (black woman). Were they being antisemitic ?

Whiskey should stick to his usual topic of white women and how they hate, hate, hate beta males.

Anonymous Steve July 21, 2014 7:36 PM  

"I will say that it will still be possible for us to kill them all, no matter how fast they breed or how many nuclear weapons they acquire. And why should we feel any guilt in doing it?"

I see. Another pretend Nazi fantasizing he is going to kill some Jews. Dreaming. But that Jewish birthrate is real. Not a little boy fantasy.

Anonymous Not Seeing It July 21, 2014 9:04 PM  

Did Isaac Asimov really say "second century BCE" at a jewish roundtable in 1977? I'm guessing the lawrenceofcyberia guy/s took some editorial license, and changed it from BC. I hadn't heard of BCE until maybe 5 years ago.

Anonymous Guy from Amazon July 22, 2014 7:41 AM  

"To which Wiesel replied, very angrily: "Give me one example of the Jews persecuting anyone!""

Morgenthau plan and JCS 1067. American Jews appointed as Treasury agents, after not serving as military during WWII, because serving your country is icky unless that nation is Israel. Their sole purpose was to starve, using Allied troops under Jewish command, German people, children in particular.

Anonymous Anonymous July 23, 2014 2:00 AM  


YIH/20July14@4:48PM

Re: 'Poisoning the well'

Funny you should mention that particular Judaic idiosyncrasy as there's this book from a Jewish author that examines it. It's also interesting how much has been published recently about Jewish involvement in the creation/propagation/administration of Communism &, as before, from Jewish sources.


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous Anonymous July 23, 2014 3:40 AM  


map/21July14@2:37AM,

"New York, Chicago, L.A.?"

You omitted Hartford/Stamford CT & Miami/West Palm Beach FL, & as far as NY is concerned, I assume you meant NYC/Long Island, why devastate the entirety of a beautiful state for the sins of some of its residents? As a resident of the P.D.R.C./People's Democratic Republic of California you can understand why I ask.


Cassandra (of Troy)

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