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Monday, December 05, 2016

Fake news covers fake event

The Comet Ping Pong gunman story smells very much like a false flag starring a crisis actor meant to distract from deeper investigation into #Pizzagate
A North Carolina man who sent customers and employees scrambling when he fired a gun inside a northwest Washington pizzeria  Sunday told police he went there to investigate a fictitious online conspiracy theory involving the restaurant and high-ranking Democrats.

Police received a report of a man armed with a rifle at Comet Ping Pong about 3 p.m. Sunday.... The gunman fired at least one shot from the rifle into the floor, but no one was hurt, police said.

The incident drew heavy police response. Dozens of officers with guns drawn were in the streets, and a helicopter circled above the scene. Police arrested 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina, and charged him with assault with a dangerous weapon. Police recovered two guns inside Comet and another inside the suspect's vehicle, which police towed away from in front of the pizzeria.

After his arrest, Welch told police he was there to investigate a fake news conspiracy theory known as "pizzagate" involving the pizzeria in the 5000 block of Connecticut Avenue NW. Posts to Facebook and Reddit claim Comet was the home base of a child sex abuse ring run by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her presidential campaign chair, John Podesta.

“What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories does come with consequences,” Comet Ping Pong owner James Alefantis said.
So, we're supposed to believe that he went there "investigating" with an assault rifle, and fired one shot into the floor at no one? That sounds totally credible. It actually raises the question: who hired Edgar Maddison Welch to play the part of an armed and dangerous conspiracy theorist? He's a failed actor listed on IMDB. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Alefantis himself hired the guy to "attack" his own restaurant.


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Anonymous Laz December 05, 2016 8:17 AM  

Was walking by the TV a few minutes ago and was like, "Who is this creepy guy talking about the pizza place?". Then I saw it was Alefantis. The guy fairly oozes creepiness.

Anonymous LF December 05, 2016 8:17 AM  

This bullshit is really getting over the top.
This whole story was just degraded from lovercraftian horror tale to Monthy Phytonesque farce.
I hope someone gets fired for doing such sloppy counterinteligence work.

Anonymous sci fi help December 05, 2016 8:19 AM  

I'm looking for a sci fi book, which takes place in the aftermath of a great war, during which both sides dosed the other side's water supply with LSD. I can't remember the title or author, and my google skills are apparently too weak to find it. Anybody know this book? I believe it's 1950s-1970s era. Thanks!

Sorry this is an off topic comment, but this is the place where i figure i have the best chance at somebody in the commentariat knowing what i'm talking about.

Blogger scottb December 05, 2016 8:30 AM  

How can a theory be "fake" or "fictitious"?
Also if we keep saying it's fake over and over that will make it truly fake yeah?

Anonymous Difster December 05, 2016 8:32 AM  

Notice that they keep calling it a 'fake' conspiracy theory? They're so desperate to keep the general public from latching on to it that they have to add the modifier. Does this mean the rest of the conspiracy theories are real? I've never seen the media work this hard at trying to discredit a theory before, not even about Obama's birthplace/birth certificate.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 05, 2016 8:33 AM  

The guy also failed at his stiff arm salute and a "Hail Trump", see what you get for free.

Anonymous Scott December 05, 2016 8:35 AM  

His father Harry Welch jr. was the executive director of a non profit called protect a child which worked to prevent child and abduction. Hmmmm

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2124178/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_trv_sm#trivia


Anonymous Lastredoubt December 05, 2016 8:38 AM  

@difster

I believe that a fake "conspiracy theory" is - not being a real conspiracy theory - likely true.

Anonymous Millenium December 05, 2016 8:40 AM  

Apparently congress just passed a law outlawing fake news and a day (?) later someone enters a venue with a shotgun because of some 'fake news' he read...could this be staged anymore conveniently?

Blogger VD December 05, 2016 8:43 AM  

someone enters a venue with a shotgun because of some 'fake news' he read

Better yet, an ACTOR does so.

Anonymous Silly but True December 05, 2016 8:45 AM  

In unrelated news, the body of badly sexually abused child with an odd gunshot wound from a rifle in the top of his shoulder matching the gun taken from the Comet gunman just turned up in the Potomac.

Comet Pizza stated the hole in the floor does not lead to any basement which the business publicized on its Facebook account two years ago. Rather Comet reiterated the pizza place has no basement and the hole in the floor with eyes peering up through it probably leads to China.

Washington Post and Guardian slammed Donald Trump for opening alternate pathways to dialogue with China.

Silly but True

Blogger Sillon Bono December 05, 2016 8:46 AM  

Yet another coincidence...

Anonymous Thales December 05, 2016 8:46 AM  

Faked News.

Blogger Salt December 05, 2016 8:50 AM  

Definitely fake news till I read it in Huffington Post.

Anonymous Grand Moff Tarkin December 05, 2016 8:52 AM  

Try "Barefoot in the Head" by Bryan Aldiss, or one of his other Acid Head Wars series books.

Anonymous Elijah Rhodes December 05, 2016 8:58 AM  

I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf? Do Hillary's cronies control the DC police to such an extent that they can ensure he just gets a slap on the wrist for his performance art? If not, how do you get someone to willingly go to prison? Is the payoff so great that 10 years in the slammer makes it worth it?

Anonymous Spinrad's Agent December 05, 2016 8:59 AM  

“What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories does come with consequences,” Comet Ping Pong owner James Alefantis said.

They should have hired a better script writer.

Blogger VD December 05, 2016 9:12 AM  

I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

Presumably one pays them money and promises them favors from one's powerful pedophile friends.

Anonymous Moonbear December 05, 2016 9:12 AM  

The amount of coincidences in Pizzagate is off the charts, they make the (((multicultural))) coincidences seem mute in comparison.

Anonymous andrewknorr December 05, 2016 9:13 AM  

I'm going to concern troll you guys and say a) this is so lame, 99% chance nothing there, b) you're making yourselves look stupid and c) you're discrediting yourself and what you stand for. Other than that, great job.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 05, 2016 9:15 AM  

The recent past: Peak Trust.
The future: Peak Distrust.

How do you get there? The agents of the Old Narrative embrace their own PR, such that they think they can actually manufacture Popular Consent simply by presenting "Law & Order SVU" level set pieces on what are (soon-to-be) legally-defined "Real News" outlets.

Let's face it, the line between "The Evening News" and any Network's prime-time programming is now nonexistent.

On the way up (to Peak Trust), if a network news anchor (or POTUS) said it, it MUST be true. On the way down (to Peak Distrust,) we must be bathed in evidence that undermines the credibility of previously trusted persons and institutions. The pass given to Bill Clinton (he only lied about getting blow jobs, what's the big deal, right?) was just one of many harbingers of what's to come.

Right or wrong, this is the path ahead. The "Newtown Massacre" is a template; any event with the slightest political connection will be (appropriately) torn to shreds.

Those who abhor this should consider that it is they who abused citizens' trust in the first place. Abuse, whether of children or of adults, merits the most barbaric retribution available.

Anonymous Elipe December 05, 2016 9:18 AM  

Spinrad's Agent wrote:“What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories does come with consequences,” Comet Ping Pong owner James Alefantis said.

Holy shit, that's so Orwellian.

Anonymous High Tech Redneck December 05, 2016 9:21 AM  

@16

District Attorneys (or in DC's case, the US Attorney for DC) decide who gets prosecuted, what charges are filed, and if/when it goes on the docket for trial, not the police. So if some guy agrees to do it, you take care of it with the US attorney, not the DC police, and if the guy starts causing problems you just have another inmate take care of it in jail.

Additionally, we already know from O'Keefe's videos that the left is more than willing to use mentally disturbed people for bird dogging so it's not necessarily the case that this guy would go in there knowing that he was being used.

More likely than not he is nuts and did this all on this own but I am always a bit suspicious when everyone in the mainstream fake news comes out and bigfoots a story all at once and proclaims from the mountaintop that anyone who even looks at it is crazy.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 05, 2016 9:21 AM  

If that casting couch could speak...it would need an exorcism.

Anonymous BGKB December 05, 2016 9:23 AM  

Let me run a scenario past the wargamers here:

Lets say masked armed men enter Comet Pizza & demand Mr Ilovebabies to bring out the child sex slaves. Lets say they are live streaming video when the naked Haitian kids with chains still on their arms are brought out. Then the masked men lay out on tables pictures of the Obamas, Clintons, every democrat in the house/senate & a few choice republicans.

They then tell the children to identify the pictures of everyone they had contact with. On live streaming video they identify Obama, both Clintons, Lindsey Graham, Dennis Hassart & 45 democrats as having boom boom with them. Video goes viral world wide. The armed men ask TRUMP for a pardon.

What happens next?

Blogger Dave Narby December 05, 2016 9:25 AM  

OT: Even German migrants realize they're better off with a white majority: http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/migrants-call-on-merkel-to-deport-migrants-because-migrants-fuck-everything-up/

Anonymous BGKB December 05, 2016 9:26 AM  

OK I realized that my scenario is a little far fetched, after all any kid that could identify Dennis Hassart would likely be too old and killed off by now.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen December 05, 2016 9:26 AM  

This smells fake to me, and I still think Sandy Hook smelled real.

It's incompetent and hamfisted enough to fit their brazen MO and desperate mood.

They might have pedo blackmail on this guy worth more than the weapons charge.

Blogger seeingsights December 05, 2016 9:28 AM  

Yes it's Barefoot in the Head by Brian Aldiss. My take on the book: very interesting premise, but the novel is written in an "experimental" style which I didn't care for. Sentence fragments. Stream of consciousness. That sort of thing.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 05, 2016 9:29 AM  

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Alefantis himself hired the guy to "attack" his own restaurant.

Sounds exactly like something any passive-aggressive queer would do.

The down-on-his-luck actor is most likely gay himself as well.

Blogger Ron December 05, 2016 9:29 AM  

@Leo

This smells fake to me, and I still think Sandy Hook smelled real.

Ask yourself, when is the last time the mainstream media defended a business?

Remember that pizzaria that refused to serve some gay party and then everyone started piling on it?

The decision to defend "comet pizza" is completely political. There is nothing honorable in anything these people do.

Blogger Philip Christensen December 05, 2016 9:30 AM  

Democrats running a child prostitution operation. Whatever else you say about this nut, it does ring credible.

http://manningthewall.com
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUDY17Xg_Ix5kaenkryh63g
https://twitter.com/manningthewall

Blogger dc.sunsets December 05, 2016 9:32 AM  

What happens next?

Wait until the DJIA drops below 4000 and/or the 10_year yield tops 6%. My guess is that we'll discover the answer sometime shortly after that.

The USSR dissolved at a high when the people required to institute repression simply stopped consenting to do so.

The USA will dissolve at a low, when horror and disgust at those who ran the country becomes so intense that no one will consent to be associated with the central state apparatus. All signs point to a future when no man or woman will be capable of saying, "Look, mom, I got a job working for Uncle Sam" without mom disowning them.

Anonymous Anonymous December 05, 2016 9:49 AM  

Two coincidences that speak AGAINST pizzagate and makes it seem like there is alot of confirmation bias behind alot of Pizzagate:

1. Pizza code words AND pizza restaurants?
Accordning to the police list, the codewords are old, right? And probably evolved through similarities or wordplay with pizza? However, that has no direct relation to pizzarestaurants. That people find suspicious pizzarestaurant seem like a false corrolation.

I mean, what it stipulates is that the pedophile network have intentionally bought pizzerieas just to match the codewords? Or, that it is a very strange coincidence. Both are possible of course. However, this false correlation is a strong indication of confirmation bias.

2. McCann E-fit images are estimations of ONE person. Yet Pizzagaters map it to two different people.
The E-fit images are supposed to be based on the witness Smith that saw a man carrying a child in an awkward way the evening the McCann girl disapeared. That they are different is just because its more about triangulating a look.

That Pizzagaters then map these two different images of the same man to two different people is very conspicious. Its a strong indication for confirmation bias.

Blogger Johnny December 05, 2016 9:52 AM  

Truly big time criminality focuses not so much on the cops as the judiciary. If this is really high level (I doubt it), the guy would get off with not much of anything. Maybe some community service along with a fine.

OpenID basementhomebrewer December 05, 2016 9:52 AM  

I suspect the operation was cleansed and moved to another location the second reddit started digging into it. Expecting to find evidence at Comet Pizza is a waste of time at this point. If you want to pick up the trail start checking into Alefantis's and his known associates recent activities and purchases (buildings, opening new businesses etc). They will likely lead you to the new location.

AS for why the actor would do it? Are you familiar with how Gangs work? A fall guy is always chosen and something important is taken care of for him. It might be making sure his family is taken care of for life. It might be he had an axe to grind with someone and the gang is going to do him the favor of destroying them.

It would not surprise me if he is part of the ring himself, and a stick was also shown to him in the form of outing him to the public. Would you rather go to prison as a crazy person that shot a gun at a suspected pedophile operation or as a pedophile?

Anonymous DrC December 05, 2016 9:53 AM  

That or blackmail. If you're running a pedo ring you'll have tons of dirt on people

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 9:55 AM  

I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

Make a note to check back a year or two from now: the charges will have been dropped, or he will have gotten off with probation on a first offense, that kind of thing.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 10:01 AM  

I suspect the operation was cleansed and moved to another location the second reddit started digging into it. Expecting to find evidence at Comet Pizza is a waste of time at this point.

Right, which is why no real citizen investigator would have done this. If I lived near D.C., I might go there and get a pizza and snoop around a little, but I wouldn't expect to find anything incriminating. I'd be doing it to satisfy myself that the pictures I've seen online match up with the actual shape of the rooms, that kind of thing. I assume all the perverted artwork and graffiti was removed -- along with anything more nefarious going on -- in late October or early November when the story broke.

Anonymous Robert Coble December 05, 2016 10:02 AM  

Perhaps the gunman (from NC) was just trying to expose and combat the "horrors" of HB2. . . The fake news outlets have to Progressively connect all the dots, don't ya know. SJWAL: First Law. . .

Blogger Student in Blue December 05, 2016 10:04 AM  

1) Pick a name, any name, or your posts will get removed.

2) Pizza restaurantS? Either you're purposely spreading disinfo or you have no idea what you're talking about.

Also your objection makes zero sense. "They bought a pizzeria to match up the codewords? FAKE! It's not directly related!" So what, for something to be real to you they have to advertise in big bold words "HEY WE MOLEST CHILDREN OVER HERE" and name themselves "Big Alefantis' Child Diddling Palace"? That's absolutely stupid.

3) "That Pizzagaters then map these two different images of the same man to two different people is very conspicious." No, it's very suspicious, because if it's one or two people, it's two points of data INSTEAD of just one that someone very closely related to them, or one of them themselves were there.

And again, two objections do not a "it's all fake!" claim make. So stop looking like a shill.

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 05, 2016 10:06 AM  

a fictitious online conspiracy theory

a fake news conspiracy theory

false and reckless conspiracy theories

They are using this event to link two of their memes one tried and true, the other a new online psychoweapon.

The term "Conspiracy Theory" came into common use (promoted by the usual suspects) after the alleged JFK assassination.

"Fake News" came into common use (promoted by the usual suspects) after the Pizzagate story broke.

Notice the "gunman of three names", like the crisis actor John Wilkes Booth or the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.

partial fantasy analysis:

man ; customers ; employees ; scrambling ; fired ; gun ; police ; he ; investigate ; fictitious ; conspiracy ; Democrats.

Police ; man ; rifle ; gunman ; fired ; shot ; rifle ; no one ; hurt; ; police.

heavy ; police. officers ; guns ; circled. Police ; arrested ; Edgar Maddison Welch ; charged him ; assault ; dangerous weapon. Police ; guns ; suspect's ; police.

arrest ; Welch police ; he fake news conspiracy theory. child sex abuse ring ; Hillary Clinton ; her ; presidential ; John Podesta.

promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories ; consequences,; owner ; James Alefantis.

Blogger Johnny December 05, 2016 10:10 AM  

I don't see this as a false flag mainly because of circumstance. If DC is that corrupt they have legal cover already. And if Trump wants to look into it this kind of BS would not change anything. The real leads are going to be with the people involved, not this institution. Having a legit business as a storefront for criminality is not all that novel. It is a convenience thing.

Blogger Salt December 05, 2016 10:10 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

Make a note to check back a year or two from now: the charges will have been dropped, or he will have gotten off with probation on a first offense, that kind of thing.


That or a money trail to which he is connected.

Anonymous BGKB December 05, 2016 10:12 AM  

I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

For $20million I will shoot a hole in a floor.

Sounds exactly like something any passive-aggressive queer would do.

Just wait until Gay Divorce Court becomes televised.

33. Blogger dc.sunsets What happens next?

Obviously I meant what happens next in the scenario I gave. Does a drone strike accidently hit Comet Pizza, does the internet get switched off, martial law?

1. Pizza code words AND pizza restaurants?

I am as confident Comet Pizza is dirty as I am that the local Pizza Hut will not give me 2 Haitian girls if I ask for extra cheese.

McCann E-fit images are estimations of ONE person. Yet Pizzagaters map it to two different people.

2 brothers connected to a Lord of the Pedos who was friends of the McCann family. When I say pedo lord it turns out to be true. http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/pizzagate-liberal-british-pedophile-mp-reportedly-friends-with-podesta-brothers-lived-near-madeleine-mccann/

Anonymous Trimegistus December 05, 2016 10:20 AM  

You might also be thinking of the novel "The Lost Traveller" by Steve Wilson. It's about a postapocalyptic future where the Hells Angels become the new Praetorian Guard after a war involving both nukes and psychedelic chemical weapons (they were pre-adapted to those).

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 05, 2016 10:25 AM  

Salt wrote:That or a money trail to which he is connected.

He'll be enrolled in the Crisis Actor Protection Program. This comes with a complete identity package, relocation, makeover, plastic surgery as required, and a guaranteed "entitlement" income from an obscure trust fund. Finding him again will be as difficult as finding Charles Manson in the prison system.

Blogger Sagramore December 05, 2016 10:28 AM  

Funny how things work. I used the term "fake news" when dealing with the Canadian broadcasting regulator just today.

Blogger Sagramore December 05, 2016 10:31 AM  

PizzaGate's Law. The comments decrying fake news just proves the need for more fake news.

Blogger Sagramore December 05, 2016 10:32 AM  

Smith-Mundt was repealed.

Blogger The Other Robot December 05, 2016 10:34 AM  

Meanwhile, the cucks want us to hire so-called female software engineers from Latin America.

Blogger Sagramore December 05, 2016 10:34 AM  

The DUDE WEED crowd figured this out sixteen years ago.

http://www.salon.com/2000/01/13/drugs_6/

Blogger Ingot9455 December 05, 2016 10:36 AM  

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Blogger Ingot9455 December 05, 2016 10:37 AM  

@16 @37 Exactly. If you think about it a moment, a white guy with an assault rifle doing a crime in Washington DC? They'd lock him up and throw away the key just for crossing the line into Washington DC with an assault rifle in the boot of his car much less for walking into a place of business with it.

If he gets off easy or goes into 'psych evaluation' instead of jail it's a guarantee the fix is in.

Anonymous Ivan Throne December 05, 2016 10:52 AM  

His father Harry Welch jr. was the executive director of a non profit called protect a child which worked to prevent child and abduction. Hmmmm

One thing that many do not appreciate is how devastating to the mind the investigation of this sort of thing is to the investigator.

That child sexual abuse investigators are required to undergo continuous therapy during their investigations, to ensure they are capable of withstanding the grotesque moral and sensory assault, will not surprise many.

That they are, themselves, at enormous risk for being pulled into the material as an offender in their own right, is a far less known propensity.

Evil has mass, and therefore creates draw of momentum towards its own center.

This is one of the ways in which organizational structures devoted to the practice of such grotequery, maintain the longevity of such orchestrated conduct: infection, enthrallment and then capture within the realm of those who are incautiously introduced.

It is part answer to the question of how such organizations are perpetuated.

Evil does exist.

It is not mindless by nature, but conscious, focused and deliberate.

Grasp this well.

Not all organizations that fight child sex trafficking are a "front".

But engagement in that milieu has danger of its own.

It is partial answer to the question of "How could this be going on?"

Evil is not a vacuum of morality.

It has momentum, intelligence and conscious purpose.

Regards,

Ivan

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 05, 2016 11:03 AM  

Ingot9455 wrote:If you think about it a moment, a white guy with an assault rifle

According to NBC, the crime wasn't done by a white guy. It was the act of a white man, a gunman, not a gunguy or a gundude. His preferred pronouns are "he" and "him".

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 05, 2016 11:09 AM  

White man from the Carolinas walks into Comet Pizza and shoots a hole in the floor. That's it? On the false-flag score it's pathetic. It's not even TV show quality, CSI or Law & Order would nix the script for weakness.

In addition to "deferred sentence" or "probation" don't discount "troubled man in need of help" who goes into some kind of mental institution for a year then comes out all better. Alternatively, he could become so troubled that he quietly suicides.

This is the sort of thing that makes normal, "oh, that can't be true" people turn around and say, "What?". IF there's nothing "there", then why the coordinated media "There's nothing there, stop looking!" press push followed not long afterwards by a clumsy acting job such as this?

Some Boomers have been all about "breaking barriers" and "doing the unthinkable" since they were 20. IN 1968 the "barriers" were dropping acid and having 3-ways. That was long ago, and mere orgies probably became too tame back in the 90's for the Clintons and their pals. Is it Canaan? Or Sodom? Or Gomorrah?

Blogger Vi M December 05, 2016 11:12 AM  

I don't know if it's a false flag BUT to me it's amazing how the media can blame FAKE NEWS for a prius-driving actor walking into Comet Ping Pong with a gun and no one is shot, at the same time push all the literally fake narratives about white cops randomly shooting innocent honor student black students with their hands up in the streets, and not take any responsibility for ensuing violence. Which includes cops being ambushed and killed.

Free speech is not just for media journos.

Media delenda est.

Blogger pyrrhus December 05, 2016 11:24 AM  

O/T Stein finds a complaisant Federal judge in MI, more lawsuits pending....http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-05/federal-judge-orders-michigan-recount-start-today-noon-stein-vows-new-lawsuit-pa

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 05, 2016 11:25 AM  

My favorite media report: "Edgar Maddison Welch struck a teenager with his car, sending him to the hospital by helicopter, in October 2016, according to a report by WBTV."

The velocity required for a common car to not only launch a teenager all the way to the hospital, but to warp matter so as to construct a helicopter out of nothing, is downright supernatural.

Nice job, media!

Anonymous Stickwick December 05, 2016 11:30 AM  

Welch told police he was there to investigate a fake news conspiracy theory known as "pizzagate"...

We're supposed to believe that Welch actually said to police that he was investigating a fake news conspiracy theory? Who would bother to investigate a "fake" story? Either this is the lamest attempt at a hoax ever or this is the lamest attempt to manipulate the narrative in a news story ever.

Blogger pyrrhus December 05, 2016 11:31 AM  

@57 The main stream media has no shame and has been entirely coopted by evil doers....

Blogger WATYF December 05, 2016 11:36 AM  

I suspect the operation was cleansed and moved to another location the second reddit started digging into it. Expecting to find evidence at Comet Pizza is a waste of time at this point.

Exactly. That's just one more ridiculous aspect of this "investigation". Even if there was anything to find (and I tend to doubt, much like Adams, that this is anything more than a very powerful case of confirmation bias), there's no way that there'd be a shred of evidence left anywhere near that place by now, so all of the people "investigating" or harassing the joint are wasting their time (and giving their opponents ammunition).

WATYF

Blogger The Rev December 05, 2016 11:38 AM  

I mean - are his actions consistent with a crazy person who thinks there are child sex slaves in the back? Anti-pedophile vigilantes tend to leave blood on the floor or else bodies swinging from ropes.

Also, if there was ever human trafficking there in the past, there isn't now. Unless they're even stupider than they seem.

Blogger praetorian December 05, 2016 11:42 AM  

Wait until the DJIA drops below 4000 and/or the 10_year yield tops 6%. My guess is that we'll discover the answer sometime shortly after that.

OT: dc.sunsets (and rest of ilk) how long do you think this rally goes? Do you think the Fed is setting up a big catastrophe right when Trump enters? Or do you think it is organic?

As Vox mentioned in that recent podcast, when taking a break from dismantling the hosts quaint libertarian notions, it seems like the debt situation will overwhelm anything Trump can do.

"We have the best system resets, believe me."

Blogger Kirk Forlatt December 05, 2016 11:49 AM  

@59 VFM #6306, that was truly hilarious...good one!

Anonymous Cadwallander J December 05, 2016 11:52 AM  

The press sure has gotten the "fake news" narrative down. NPR was noting that the stupid Italians voted the stupid option because they stupidly fell for Italian fake news. The Alt-right continues its international dominance.

Blogger kmbr December 05, 2016 11:55 AM  

**Meanwhile, the cucks want us to hire so-called female software engineers from Latin America.**

Woooow. Can any products, particularly bridges, airplanes or the like, be labelled because I really feel like that sort of information should be disclosed for public safety.

Blogger flyingtiger December 05, 2016 11:56 AM  

Is it just me, but the quality of the false flag events have gone done. They don't even try to make it look realistic anymore.

Anonymous Kreator December 05, 2016 12:03 PM  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-district-weighs-ban-of-to-kill-a-mockingbird-huck-finn-after-complaint/2016/12/03/92701c80-b8b0-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?utm_term=.642de97ed6fd

OT: Seminigger SJW is triggered and has mom appeal to school to lift the works of American Classics from school's library.

Anonymous Genera December 05, 2016 12:03 PM  

I'm wondering if this whole fake news meme was started as a way to discredit the pizzagate story, which is easy to believe is fake, if you're a Hillary supporter or a consumer of only mainstream media.

Blogger JWM in SD December 05, 2016 12:07 PM  

Suspected as much a week after pizza gate went viral. No way they continue to operate from that location as it has been burned. I predict comet pizza will close inside of a year and blame poor business on rhe pizza gate story.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 05, 2016 12:08 PM  

@16 I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

It would go something like this: "Hi, we've got a gig for you. We're having a party and we want to play a prank on our friend, so we want you to walk in and fire a few rounds at the ceiling. The gun will be loaded with blanks. Be sure not to fire them directly at anyone because they can still hurt people if you fire them at close range."

Anonymous Tor December 05, 2016 12:11 PM  

Sounds like VD is trying to cover his own ass again with baseless claims.

Anonymous Silly but True December 05, 2016 12:18 PM  

Language still matters to some. Pizzagate so rattled everyone that water carriers have been reduced to stumbling idiots.

Remember that last coordinated media effort actually confirmed (in their own words) "pizzagate was telling lies about pedophiles." Media knows they're pedos,ithe whole problem is it just doesnt like people talking about the pedos.

Anonymous Loki7 December 05, 2016 12:28 PM  

Gee, wasn`t I reading about an actor recently who was hired for a black op? His name was John Wilkes Booth.

Anonymous Closehauled December 05, 2016 12:44 PM  

I'm wondering if this whole fake news meme was started as a way to discredit the pizzagate story, which is easy to believe is fake, if you're a Hillary supporter or a consumer of only mainstream media.

What has amazed me about pizzagate is how many people that thought of 911 conspiracy theorists as looney took the red pill for pizzagate.

1000's and 1000's of people who were not conspiracy theorists before have been unplugged from the matrix and now have eyes that are forever opened.



Anonymous Gen. Kong December 05, 2016 12:48 PM  

Meanwhile, back in Sodom-on-Potomac, the fake opposition party passes a law banning sites designated by (((gaslight media))) as "fake news" while the Kentucky Undertaker leading the fake opposition party in the Chamber of Incitatuses promises to hand over FCC to Hussein's people. Welcome to plastic planet.

Blogger lowercaseb December 05, 2016 12:50 PM  

VD wrote:I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?

Presumably one pays them money and promises them favors from one's powerful pedophile friends.


All that time I wasted in Regional theatre when I could have been making the big bucks working for the government.

"I am available for all gigs and contacts up to 7-10 years. No life gigs. My acting range includes all required narrative roles: white man, angry white man, racist white man, angry racist white man, and closeted angry racist white man."

"I am also trained on all misogynistic roles and tropes including advanced trigger intonation and mansplaining."

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 12:55 PM  

One difference here is that people already know pedophiles and pedo rings exist. They've been busted before; there are even TV shows about it. They've also involved prominent people before, like Hastert and Savile. None of that is new or controversial.

So everything about this story is believeable. The only thing that makes it stray into the realm of "crazy conspiracy theory" for many will be the sheer scope of it and how many elites may be tied to it. If it only involved one front business and a few notable individuals, it would be easy for people to believe.

Blogger Student in Blue December 05, 2016 12:56 PM  

@Closehauled
What has amazed me about pizzagate is how many people that thought of 911 conspiracy theorists as looney took the red pill for pizzagate.

Seeing firsthand just how far the media will go in their dishonesty about Trump and his campaign has a lot to do with the amount of people getting redpilled.

Blogger lowercaseb December 05, 2016 1:00 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:Seeing firsthand just how far the media will go in their dishonesty about Trump and his campaign has a lot to do with the amount of people getting redpilled.

That and are seeing a very "Gamers are DEAD" type overreaction from the media right now that is pushing the Streisand effect.

Blogger Latigo3 December 05, 2016 1:03 PM  

As usual, it is beginning to make the rounds on the local talk-radio stations in LA. At this point they are still calling it "fake news", but like everything else, I will be laughing when there is so much truth out there that they can't deny it.

Blogger Martin X December 05, 2016 1:10 PM  

Based on evidence so far, it seems to me much more likely that Edgar is truly unstable, knows via his father's activities in Haiti that strange things have been going on and his irrational act was simply his way of taking some action he felt would shed light on the investigation. Obviously sane persons can see that would not be the case. So far, we don't know for certain why he went, who he spoke to or what he hoped to achieve. Was he intending to take a specific person hostage and force that person at gunpoint to spill the beans? Until we find out more, I would chalk this up to random act of unstable guy acting alone.

I personally believe that the pedo network is real and is used as a very effective type of blackmail to ensure the loyalty of various state actors at all levels of governments globally. Not everyone is involved, but enough people are involved to be a very important element of their (deep state globalist conspirators) network.

Anonymous BGKB December 05, 2016 1:32 PM  

"I am available for all gigs and contacts up to 7-10 years. No life gigs.

Willing to sign a 20year contract for "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than A Faggot" if TRUMP can bust the entire Soros clan.

Blogger Nick S December 05, 2016 1:46 PM  

@80

You're exactly right, Cail. The complete absence of any moral integrity of a specific segment of the people involved has been clearly exposed. I think what is making it difficult to follow is how it all overlaps and intertwines with otherwise seemingly unrelated activities of those same people.

Framing, blackmailing and leveraging for power and money is the real end goal of Clinton Machine. We know Muslim males have a penchant for sex with children. Anyone willing to do a deep dive down the rabbit hole is going to need to connect the various off-book arms deals, and all the Clinton Foundation pay-to-play with both the Middle Eastern and the Washington DC pedophiles.

I believe the intelligence community and the Muslim Brotherhood in the current administration is up to their eyeballs in this thing.

Trump is going to need more bodyguards.

Blogger flyingtiger December 05, 2016 1:48 PM  

#75
You will note that the actor was the only one who completed his assignment on that day.

Anonymous MendoScot December 05, 2016 1:52 PM  

Things that make you go hmmm...

“We was walking down the road, just a normal walk, and this one car had the full road," said Sean Lankford, who was walking in the group. "We was pretty much on the white line and he wiped out one of my friends and he had the whole road to turn into even the whole other lane, even in the same lane he could have avoided him."

Maybe it's a different Edgar Welch from North Carolina.

Anonymous kfg December 05, 2016 1:54 PM  

"Does a drone strike accidently hit Comet Pizza, does the internet get switched off, martial law?"

Kratman appointed Special Prosecutor and rows of crosses suddenly line Pennsylvania Avenue?

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin December 05, 2016 2:29 PM  

How does an elite pedo ring get a [heavily compromised and struggling] actor to commit a felony on its behalf? "Three years in a country club/psych ward on weapons charges, or life in a supermax for multiple child rapes/murders. Your choice pal."

At this point there isn't much that I'm inclined to dismiss out of hand.

Anonymous badhairday December 05, 2016 2:42 PM  

We in the uk had a government peado ring rumour back in the 80s.
It was effectively dealt with by stopping all reporting on it.

All the above story does is to put the word pizzgate more firmly in the public mind.

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2016 3:22 PM  

Cernovich is being a huge idiot re PizzaGate.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/12/04/mike-cernovich-responds-to-fake-new-media-conspiracy-theories-about-pizzagate/

His 'smoking gun' is Dennis Hastert. This is retarded:

(1) Hastert's apparent abuse was from circa 1970 and earlier. That is nearly fifty years ago.

(2) Hastert was not covered up or ignored. He was destroyed. He lives in prison right now.

(3) Hastert has nothing to do with these people. For one thing he of a different generation, way older than these people. For another, he is a Republican and is not friends with any of these folks.

(4) Hastert's case involved post pubescent teenagers at a high school where he taught in Illinois 50 years ago.

(5) Hastert's case had nothing to do with any conspiracy or ring or anything like that. He was just a sports coach ages ago who acted by himself and then the victims many years later demanded hush money which got him in trouble.

Cernovich is a big dummy who is stirring up this crap and the GamerGaters think he is some kind of god.

Anonymous Avalanche December 05, 2016 3:23 PM  

@85 "Willing to sign a 20year contract for 'Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than A Faggot'"

oooooh! Think of the blisters on your poor fingers! You'd better wear gloves!

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2016 3:26 PM  

Cernovich is gullible and conspiratorial some times. The National Inquire had a ridiculous story during the primaries that Ted Cruz, the dorkiest dork alive, had five different hot mistresses.

Cernovich totally whipped the entire media into a frenzy over that, going nuts on Twitter and his website. In retrospect, it was absurd. Ted Cruz? Really?

Blogger Student in Blue December 05, 2016 3:41 PM  

@Dan
His 'smoking gun' is Dennis Hastert. This is retarded:

No, what's retarded is you trying to debunk something that wasn't claimed, and trying to attack a point that Mike didn't say in that article.

So... why do you look like a shill? You have so much concern about this topic that you need to Correct The Record.

Anonymous Silly but True December 05, 2016 3:51 PM  

@Dan:
When it comes to reporting on political mistresses, the National Inquirer is very literally the most credible news company currently reporting.

Anonymous BGKB December 05, 2016 4:08 PM  

Kratman appointed Special Prosecutor and rows of crosses suddenly line Pennsylvania Avenue?

If Kratman does that I will lose all of the good material for my show. I am a nice guy I would be willing to let Kratman come on as a celebrity guest after Putin & Judge Napolitano get their turns.

oooooh! Think of the blisters on your poor fingers! You'd better wear gloves!

Some weightlifting gloves with open fingertips to go with the El Guapo mask.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 05, 2016 4:11 PM  

@92 Cernovich also cited the BBC pedophilia coverup and the non-reporting about Epstein. So quit lying.

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2016 4:13 PM  

Look, I'd like this to be true as much as anybody... But look....

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/12/04/mike-cernovich-responds-to-fake-new-media-conspiracy-theories-about-pizzagate

His whole case is
(1) Hastert is a pedo
(2) Podesta knows Hastert


Seriously? Hastert molested some teens circa 1970 by himself as their coach in Illinois. That's not a ring, just a guy who was a perv back in the day.

Podesta knows Hasert? So? Hastert was speaker of the House and Podesta was a top lobbyist, whose job it is to lobby the Hasterts of the world.

Look, Hillary was a crook. She was a crook because she took all sorts of money from foreign governments for her foundation and it obviously wasn't charity because those countries never donate tens of millions to random US charities. It was obvious influence buying and she was SecState. That is the scandal and that is what people should associate with Crooked Hillary.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 05, 2016 4:19 PM  

@99 His whole case is...

What "case?" Did you even read your own article?

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2016 4:23 PM  

"Cernovich also cited the BBC pedophilia coverup and the non-reporting about Epstein. So quit lying."

Okay, I will admit, that is a much more suspicious thing. Epstein and Bill Clinton seems to be a really shady connection.

Blogger JimR December 05, 2016 4:27 PM  

It's as if Dan didn't even *read* the article he was so "concerned" about...

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 05, 2016 4:30 PM  

[flak intensifies]

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 4:30 PM  

It's funny to see people say we should focus on the Clintons' financial crookedness, as if people can't wrap their heads around the idea that they're crooks and occultists and have friends in the pedo business. I don't think that's that hard.

Not to mention, stories about Clinton financial scandals go way back to the 1992 campaign, to Rose Law Firm and Hillary's cattle futures. They didn't keep Bill from winning twice, or get him impeached. They didn't keep Hillary out of the Senate or the State Dept., and they wouldn't have kept her from winning this election. The Spirit Cooking stuff just might have helpled, at least.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 05, 2016 4:41 PM  

The Cruz mistress story is 100% true. Read Amanda Carpenter's reporting some time. Like her tweet, with a photo in which she's sitting on the bed with a condom, and talking about how "Daddy" totally owned some debate
and was coming over.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 4:54 PM  

Look, I'd like this to be true as much as anybody...

Why would you want it to be true?

It's not about what anyone wants; it's about seeing that crimes against children are stopped and those responsible are brought to justice. That means following the evidence where it leads, regardless of whether you like the results, or whether people make fun of you or threaten you over it.

Anonymous Dan December 05, 2016 4:54 PM  

https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/pizzagate-nonsense/

LOTB, the paid Hillary shill.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor December 05, 2016 5:00 PM  

@107 "If something sounds too good to be true, then it’s not true"

Nonsense. Love is real!

Blogger VD December 05, 2016 5:32 PM  

Sounds like VD is trying to cover his own ass again with baseless claims.

Seems....

Look, I'd like this to be true as much as anybody... But look....

Fake concern about fake news covering a fake event? That is SO meta!

Blogger vosvos December 05, 2016 6:01 PM  

I wish that someone in the public eye would do a bit of research into why these people in high places worldwide are torturing and murdering children, if they did they would see that this is actually the source of their "power" that they do indeed consort with demons that demons are indeed summoned and doorways are opened by these very rituals if one were to go down this rabbit hole one would be able to convince more people.

Anonymous Hugo de Naranja December 05, 2016 6:07 PM  

@3
Use of LSD as a chemical weapon figures prominently in the backstory of Howard Waldrop's "The Texas-Israeli War."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Texas-Israeli_War:_1999

The prose is recognizably Howard Waldrop's voice, but the humor is much, much darker than his usual.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 05, 2016 6:43 PM  

@98 Dan
That is the scandal and that is what people should associate with Crooked Hillary.

Man, the quality of tone policing has gone way, way down.
Concern trolls sure are concerned about something.

Blogger Leo Littlebook in Shenzhen December 05, 2016 7:07 PM  

> Based on evidence so far, it seems to me much more likely that Edgar is truly unstable...

While I'm agnostic on the relative probability of the two dominant scenarios, your point is well taken.

Anonymous Ultradimensional Longboats of Deplorable Spartacus December 05, 2016 7:07 PM  

VD wrote:Fake concern about fake news covering a fake event? That is SO meta!

Threadwinner.

Here's a different online false and reckless fake news meta-fictitious conspiracy theory that you would have to be paranoid schizo bizarre insane to believe in and should immediately disavow and disown any friends or family members who mention it:

The actor played his part as contracted, but he wasn't working for the bad guys. This was a black knight op. Lone White Gunman in DC will attract NBC, CNN and the rest like flies on shit (apologies to both flies and shit). And when they arrive at the story, they can't tell it without using lines like-

"a fake news conspiracy theory known as "pizzagate" involving the pizzeria in the 5000 block of Connecticut Avenue NW. Posts to Facebook and Reddit claim Comet was the home base of a child sex abuse ring run by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her presidential campaign chair, John Podesta."-

which keeps that story going while simultaneously self-sliming the MSM. Mission accomplished.

It's sort of like nominating "SRBI" and "Safe Space as Rape Room" for the Hugo Awarda.

Blogger JWM in SD December 05, 2016 7:20 PM  

Right, that's why Hastert is relevant. The guy was placed into the speaker role from relative obscurity. Why?

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2016 7:41 PM  

Dan wrote:Podesta knows Hasert? So? Hastert was speaker of the House and Podesta was a top lobbyist, whose job it is to lobby the Hasterts of the world.

Dan, you poor naive dweeb.

How do lobbyists get attention of people with power? Rely on the strength of their arguments? Or have they read The Art of the Deal ?

Anonymous Malwyn's apprentice December 05, 2016 7:55 PM  

@76 closehauled

What has amazed me about pizzagate is how many people that thought of 911 conspiracy theorists as looney took the red pill for pizzagate.

Whenever I start doubting pizzagate, I come back to two rather ordinary items: exotic food and power.

Exotic food: we've all heard of wagu beef, beluga caviar, certain types of truffles --- these can cost hundreds of dollars per ounce. But who ever heard of spending tens of thousands of dollars on *pizza* and *hotdogs*?

Power: we've all heard about and read some of those most powerful lists, and even if each name isn't familiar, their placement on the list makes sense. But please explain to me why the
owner of a pizzeria would be named 49/50 of DC's most powerful people, surpassing judges, politicians and financiers?

Grotesque art and weird symbols can be a step too far for most people, but food and power are very basic concepts that all of us understand.

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 05, 2016 7:57 PM  

@ Dan, the Podesta brothers have known Dennis Hastert since they were _teen-agers_. Tony Podesta and Dennis Hastert used to go to the same summer camp in Nose, Japan.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48488

Anonymous Takin' a Look December 05, 2016 8:05 PM  

@ Malwyn's Apprentice

"Food and power"

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 8:19 PM  

From what we already know, it's clear that these people enjoy thinking about and viewing children in sexual and/or creepy ways. That doesn't mean they have acted on it further, but it would be naive to assume they haven't.

If John and Tony Podesta were John and Tony Farmer from Podunk, Iowa; and their pictures matched police sketches from the kidnapping of a little girl; and they were known to have pedophile connections; and the police who came to their homes to interview them saw the kind of art they own on the walls....

They'd be arrested. That much would be enough for an indictment, at least, and subpoenas to find out where they were at the time of the crime, put them in line-ups, things like that. That's not confirmation bias; that's just using common sense and adding up the evidence.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 9:32 PM  

@16 Elijah Rhodes
I admit it seems very odd, but I'm having trouble understanding how you get an actor to commit a felony on your behalf?
---
MKULTRA

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 9:33 PM  

@20 andrewknorr
I'm going to concern troll you guys and say a) this is so lame, 99% chance nothing there, b) you're making yourselves look stupid and c) you're discrediting yourself and what you stand for. Other than that, great job.
---

FU Pizza breath

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 9:42 PM  

@25 BGKB

The armed men ask TRUMP for a pardon.

What happens next?
---

Trump would have to immediately shut down all flights and buses etc. out of DC to stop the perps from fleeing. Dispatch a seal team to pedo island. Contact Haiti and get someone over there immediately to positively identify those kids. Shoot Geraldo, just because. Lock down Pizza block and all those tunnels need to be fumigated. He could take Pedo island and hold real life survival reality shows by depositing 10 or so of these offenders each week and see who survives.

Blogger clk December 05, 2016 9:52 PM  

@59 "The velocity required for a common car to not only launch a teenager all the way to the hospital, but to warp matter so as to construct a helicopter out of nothing, is downright supernatural."...

Hillarious ....

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:00 PM  

@79 Cail Corishev

The only thing that makes it stray into the realm of "crazy conspiracy theory" for many will be the sheer scope of it and how many elites may be tied to it.
---

Here is the progression

Wikileaks emails had the original clues about pizzagate.

Pedos > Satanic Rituals (spirit cooking)> Cannibalism (Podestas artwork)

There is a lot more to it than just pedo rings, from a conspiracy theory standpoint.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:04 PM  

@85 Nick S

Trump is going to need more bodyguards.
---

Another conspiracy theory that I have heard regarding Trumps private Army headed by Erick Prince. This one is completely out of my wheelhouse, curious to what others think

https://youtu.be/gTde8WGqpBY

Blogger AdognamedOp December 05, 2016 10:07 PM  

NBC Nightly News had a segment on the pizzaria tonight with the usual dismiss as crazy conspiracy theme. It's obvious the memo went out and the obedient pravda are doing damage control for their satanic overlords. Meanwhile there's enough video evidence to confirm that Joe Biden is a pedo.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:09 PM  

@93 Dan
Cernovich is gullible and conspiratorial some times. The National Inquire had a ridiculous story during the primaries that Ted Cruz, the dorkiest dork alive, had five different hot mistresses.
---

OMG, It's a Pizza Cruzlim! Teddy would not approve of this!

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:13 PM  

@109 vosvos
I wish that someone in the public eye would do a bit of research into why these people in high places worldwide are torturing and murdering children, if they did they would see that this is actually the source of their "power" that they do indeed consort with demons that demons are indeed summoned and doorways are opened by these very rituals if one were to go down this rabbit hole one would be able to convince more people.
---

That's what the luciferian ceremonies are for.

My favorite add on conspiracy to this is the Reptillians. One was saying they are extra dimensional (like a demon or devil) and through some bizarre dna manipulations have the ability to possess certain people. Then they feed off the fear and pain emotions they can create in victims, like sort of psychic vampires.

Yeah, I know REH had the reptillians first, and Dr. Strange had Nightmare feeding off of bad emotions.

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2016 10:25 PM  

Dan wrote:Cernovich is gullible......

Dan, seriously, if you had any integrity at all you would resign and give Soros his money back, whatever the cheap nazi lover gave you. It is not worth your soul. Go get a job at a pizza parlor or something.

Blogger Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 10:28 PM  

@125, True, there's a lot more to it. Which actually makes it harder to tell people about, because if you give it all to them at once, they often shut down with a too-crazy-to-be-true response. I've had better luck focusing on just one aspect at a time, like just the Spirit Cooking, or just the Podesta police sketch photos and the McCann case. Any one part of it is enough to convince anyone reasonable that these people are creeps anyway.

That by itself won't get them jailed, but it's a start. It chips away at their support and makes it harder for their defenders to stick with them. Once Trump is inaugurated, it'll be interesting to see if the FBI claims to have been doing an investigation all along.

Another shoe that could drop anytime: Stage 3 of Wikileaks is already out there and downloaded around the world, just waiting for the keys to decrypt it.

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2016 10:29 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Yeah, I know REH had the reptillians first, and Dr. Strange had Nightmare feeding off of bad emotions.

Check out Mind Parasites, Colin Wilson, 1967. Free pdf online.

It fucked my head good.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:44 PM  

@131 Thanks, I downloaded it, will check it out

Blogger Were-Puppy December 05, 2016 10:49 PM  

@130 Cail Corishev
@125, True, there's a lot more to it. Which actually makes it harder to tell people about, because if you give it all to them at once, they often shut down with a too-crazy-to-be-true response. I've had better luck focusing on just one aspect at a time, like just the Spirit Cooking, or just the Podesta police sketch photos and the McCann case. Any one part of it is enough to convince anyone reasonable that these people are creeps anyway.
---

I think that while it might be all the angles are detrimental to some, it's an advantage in other ways.

For instance, after reading the bit about spirit cooking, it reminded me of another case that is also unresolved. There was a UFO researcher named Max Spiers who died of mysterious circumstances - his mom and fiance swear it was a satanic ritual, and he died spewing some black liquid, and they had photos of him in a coffin and with some weird mark on his head. He texted his mom a couple days before his death that if anything happens to him, investigate.

He was going to give a speech and drop some serious dirt on something. After looking a little further, the dirt was going to be about a satanic pedo cult from during the 1980's that involved some military LG, from what I recall.

And it sounds really in the pizzagate wheelhouse. probably not directly related, but who knows?

Then we have Brietbart dying of a heart attack after tweeting against Podesta.

The reporter who turned up dead in Haiti.

All these things might be tied to it, which gets people interested in it digging from various viewpoints and angles.

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2016 10:58 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:@131 Thanks, I downloaded it, will check it out

I hope it is as creepy as I remember, but I was doing street pharmaceuticals at the time while being brainwashed at a leftist cesspool.

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2016 11:17 PM  

Often, the FBI turns people and gets moles in the Mafia who spill the beans, why does this not happen in pedo rings? Its the only way to get substantial evidence.

Shouldn't someone kidnap that Alefantis character and waterboard the mofo? Its not rocket science, it is standard CIA procedure. Anybody with water and a facecloth can practice it, you don't need certification. Fucking Russians would do it. Probably cut off some body parts as well.

No, instead you get a goof attack.

As I have previously noted, Phineas Taylor Barnum should be considered a Founding Father.

Anonymous Laz December 06, 2016 12:27 AM  

@Were-Puppy: What if... aliens have always been here? What if... they weren't always known as "aliens", at one time they were known as fallen angels?

Blogger bkm ( wut is the great flaw in the Alt-R? too many chiefs, insufficient Injuns. good thing Vox Day is the Little Injun That Could pull that fine train. { Vox Gayness intensifies } ) December 06, 2016 12:31 AM  

4. scottb December 05, 2016 8:30 AM
How can a theory be "fake" or "fictitious"?



see: AGW theory


16. Elijah Rhodes December 05, 2016 8:58 AM
If not, how do you get someone to willingly go to prison? Is the payoff so great that 10 years in the slammer makes it worth it?



a - you're going to verify that he's in prison 5 years on?

b - promise him you're going to put him up in one of those low security, private club hostel situations where they put Wall Street millionaires and it's not so bad even if he goes to jail.

c - that's what the Monarch programming is for



40. Student in Blue December 05, 2016 10:04 AM
2) Pizza restaurantS?



yes, plural.

"Besta Pizza", a couple of doors down from Comet Ping Pong, had a pedophile logo ( large triangle containing a smaller triangle ) up until the Pedosta emails broke.


44. BGKB December 05, 2016 10:12 AM
For $20million I will shoot a hole in a floor.



but how many Muslims will you garrote?



79. Cail Corishev December 05, 2016 12:55 PM
The only thing that makes it stray into the realm of "crazy conspiracy theory" for many will be the sheer scope of it and how many elites may be tied to it.



that's the problem though.

once you think through the obvious implication of the Republican Speaker of the House being a lifelong faggot and practicing pedophile ... you realize that a certain portion of the Republican establishment MUST BE INVOLVED, in the coverup, if nothing else.



91. Dan December 05, 2016 3:22 PM
(1) Hastert's apparent abuse was from circa 1970 and earlier. That is nearly fifty years ago.

(2) Hastert was not covered up or ignored. He was destroyed. He lives in prison right now.

(3) Hastert has nothing to do with these people. For one thing he of a different generation, way older than these people. For another, he is a Republican and is not friends with any of these folks.



tell Soros he needs to spend more money, you are a very low energy troll.

any quality time with a decent search engine will disabuse any curious observer of almost all the assertions ( excepting his imprisonment ) you've just made.

most obvious is age, Hastert is 74, Pedosta is 67. they were not merely contemporaries, they worked directly with each other for years.

Hastert is friends with them, Pedosta's own emails say so.

Blogger flyingtiger December 06, 2016 1:12 AM  

Our enemies are not as clever as were think. I believe this was a false flag attack to disprove the accusations. It may be backfiring. The MSM is covering this story and people are asking me questions. They are missing the part that this is a fake news story. The sheep are looking up.

Blogger GFR December 06, 2016 1:49 AM  

We don't care.

Blogger Harold December 06, 2016 2:00 AM  

Often, the FBI turns people and gets moles in the Mafia who spill the beans, why does this not happen in pedo rings? Its the only way to get substantial evidence.

Just my opinion, but I suspect the reason is that in order to infiltrate into a closed off group, you're going to have to prove yourself, possibly by engaging in illegal or illicit activity yourself, sanctioned by those above you. Gotta kill someone to get in? Target a bad guy who should die. Gotta engage in some smuggling to prove yourself? Easy enough. Gotta engage in sex with a nine year old? NO! No one is going to sanction it, and I doubt you'll find an agent who could carry it out.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy December 06, 2016 2:10 AM  

Harold wrote:Gotta engage in sex with a nine year old? NO! No one is going to sanction it, and I doubt you'll find an agent who could carry it out.
Oh, they've got a few. The problem is that anyone who would do that will be on the side of their fellow pedos.

Anonymous CloseHauled December 06, 2016 4:34 AM  

Any one part of it is enough to convince anyone reasonable that these people are creeps anyway.

I simply it for family: Podesta likes "cum of sum yun guy" soup seasoned with menstrual blood.

Pretty normal behavior, right?

Blogger Student in Blue December 06, 2016 9:20 AM  

@bkm
"Besta Pizza", a couple of doors down from Comet Ping Pong, had a pedophile logo ( large triangle containing a smaller triangle ) up until the Pedosta emails broke.

Point. I forgot about Besta because I don't remember much coming out about them.

Blogger Bambino December 07, 2016 2:00 AM  

@114 Hastert was never more than Tom DeLay's puppet.

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