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Tuesday, January 03, 2017

An unamenable authority

Notice how Apple attempts to utilize its position as a market gatekeeper to force other companies, such as Gab, to jump through various hoops, and potentially, even converge itself, in order to access the customers Apple controls.

An abbreviated summary of Gab's travails, as described by Andrew Torba:
They want us to include our guidelines in the app and update guidelines to include the NSFW language. It's absolutely beyond ridiculous the hoops they are forcing us through. Every rejection has more requirements. We will get there. Or we will raise hell about it.

Folks this is what we got back from Apple. Every time we fix what they want, they magically come up with new requirements. It's absolutely disgusting. They want us banning people. They want us to add blocking. They want us removing content within 24 hours. This is insane.

Folks we are pushing back on Apple bigly.
  • We have feed filters. 
  • We have user muting. 
  • We have the ability to flag content.
There is absolutely no way this app should not be approved. Submitting an appeal, then raising hell on this issue in a very public way. Apple wants to play? We will play.

Here is our reply to Apple folks.
-We have feed filters.
-We have muting.
-We have flagging for illegal content.
-We review flagged content and can address it quickly if it breaks the law/guidelines.
-We can certainly show examples of "objectionable content" on any other social platform.
Now, as anyone who has been on Twitter or Wikipedia knows, there is a considerable amount of NSFW content, none of which is marked as such. But it's pointless to try to base an argument on this obvious double standard, because SJW-converged corporations are shamelessly hypocritical and they don't hesitate to play ideological favorites.

Just as a right-wing employee will be fired over the smallest perceived infraction that doesn't even violate company policy while an SJW employee can violate multiple company policies at will without suffering any consequences, every Alt-Tech organization will be, to at least some extent, obstructed and frozen out by the SJW-converged tech giants.

That's to be expected. The problem will get worse before it gets better, but it is only a problem in the short run, because whether the Alt-Tech organization runs the gauntlet, as Gab has, or elects to simply ignore it, as Infogalactic has to date, the experience will only make the Alt-Tech stronger and more disruptive.

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79 Comments:

Anonymous Eric the Red January 03, 2017 5:51 AM  

Apple will keep coming up with every asinine/converged excuse it can think of to keep Gab off its platforms. In this case there's no higher authority to appeal its hypocrisy.

Either Gab knuckles under, or else Apple will shut them out.

Blogger Ron January 03, 2017 6:04 AM  

Time to fork Apple

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 6:11 AM  

@2 Ron said:
"Time to fork Apple"

Peel the skin off first.

Anonymous alttech January 03, 2017 6:12 AM  

Fuck apple. Just design one for blackberry world. spread the word on gab. make blackberry the preference of deplorables.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 6:18 AM  

I've been thinking of getting a blackberry passport, I like the idea of real keyboard.
Even better, bring back the T9!

Blogger pdwalker January 03, 2017 6:21 AM  

Apple management is now fully converged. You can see it in the decline of their products and their lack of vision as they refocus their efforts on SJ issues.

Steve Jobs death was a mortal blow to the company. Its only a matter of time now.

Anonymous Icicle January 03, 2017 6:21 AM  

Time to fork Apple

We need shovels, flashlights and access to the Alta Mesa Memorial Park located in Palo Alto, Santa Clara County, California.

That's to be expected. The problem will get worse before it gets better, but it is only a problem in the short run, because whether the Alt-Tech organization runs the gauntlet, as Gab has, or elects to simply ignore it, as Infogalactic has to date, the experience will only make the Alt-Tech stronger and more disruptive.

Let's make ourselves great again!

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 6:23 AM  

Gab The Deplorable Green Frog prefers Blackberrys to rotten SJWorm infested Apple.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 6:25 AM  

Either Gab knuckles under, or else Apple will shut them out.

Apple isn't really demanding anything that Gab isn't willing to do, at least not yet. Gab has always been clear about wanting to compartmentalize NSFW content, it simply wasn't a top priority. But it's clear that Apple is only doing it to hassle Gab, since they don't boot the Twitter or Wikipedia apps from the Apple Store.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 03, 2017 6:36 AM  

Peel the skin off first.

Funny thing: if you peel off the skin, you'll find BSD Unix.

And Cook undermined Jobs by making macOS free AND reinstating OpenDarwin. Oops.

Only a matter of time, people.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 6:36 AM  

infogalactic can't be reached at the moment. DDoS?

Anonymous Andrew (been around for a while) January 03, 2017 6:40 AM  

I won't dispute that Apple is full of SJWs and could even be classified as converged. However, the problem is larger. High-profile companies like Apple are proxies of the State for enforcement of hate speech regulations. These companies know this. And the State is increasing the pressure on them as the State becomes more bold in exercising these regulations. The current situation here in Germany is one of the best examples.

Gab has a significant challenge ahead in this regard. If it becomes successful enough, especially if Twitter dies suddenly, it will land squarely in the government censorship cross hairs. Countries like Germany will start requiring a registered legal entity in the country to have open access to their part of the Internet. These local legal entities will receive increasingly draconian demands to restrict speech or be required to pay ever larger fines. Even in the US, where free speech still has a higher value, expect states like California to start implementing their own restrictions in spite of a Trumped Washington.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 6:40 AM  

No, probably just overwhelmed following the new speedups.

Anonymous Rien January 03, 2017 6:40 AM  

FWIW the developers at apple have even abandoned age-old (LOL) computer terminology like master/slave in favour of leader/follower.

Blogger Sillon Bono January 03, 2017 6:41 AM  

What about telling Apple to fcuk off about the whole ordeal?

Apple is on the decline, if people keep ignoring it and publishing exclusives on Android Apple will have to cave at some point.

This is the same with MS I have no idea why the entire industry bends and shallow it.

Blogger Happy LP9 January 03, 2017 6:52 AM  

Apple, twiter, farcebook are all on decline. Pple are fed up with the varied phones as well.


I'm so proud of alt tech, thrilled with Torba's work invested in Gab. I'm elated w/Gab, its such a happy joyful outlet! Love it. Tis true I detest Apple to all those phones and all those cable tv providers. I only heart gab, email, skype and PSN. I love the reading downloads though, reading means more to me than other matters or other distractions.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 6:52 AM  

What about telling Apple to fcuk off about the whole ordeal?

That would be reprehensibly stupid. MOST of Gab's users are on iOS. It's not an option.

However, the problem is larger. High-profile companies like Apple are proxies of the State for enforcement of hate speech regulations. These companies know this. And the State is increasing the pressure on them as the State becomes more bold in exercising these regulations.

True, but that brings the battle that no one even knew was being fought out in the open. And it's a lot easier to win a battle you can fight than one you don't even know is taking place.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 6:56 AM  

@12 Your right about the legislation side of things. What about a decentralised leaderless platform. I have no idea if that is possible, but SETI uses borrowed PC's around the world for processing. Or a blockchain platform? Bit beyond my ken, but it has to be possible. Or already available of course with no hope of getting on Apple.

@13 no worries

@14 I can just imagine all the slave drives whirring yassah, yassah, right away sah, too the master drives.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl January 03, 2017 7:00 AM  

One good audit and Apple's screwed anyway, so even if Apple harasses/impedes Gab, it'll only be temporary. SJW convergence is a sign of a company already in trouble, so it's really only a few years away.

Blogger Ron January 03, 2017 7:01 AM  

@SemiSpook

I don't agree. AppleFascism is part of what makes their app store great. Much like control over a nations borders and cultural makeup is what allows a country to stand out, their control over the product on all levels is what allows them to spit out quality.

The only problem now is that they have no visionary ego maniacal asshole at the top to direct it. Like Chile without Pinochet. Or NYC without Giulianni. It's still a pretty place, but needs a great visionary dictator.

Blogger Stilicho January 03, 2017 7:11 AM  

OT question: when microsoft wanted to get into the cellphone/mobile game, why didn't they buy BlackBerry? Superior hardware combined with MSFT market share and software development could have made it an instant threat to Apple and the Android clones.

Blogger Sillon Bono January 03, 2017 7:15 AM  

VD wrote:What about telling Apple to fcuk off about the whole ordeal?

That would be reprehensibly stupid. MOST of Gab's users are on iOS. It's not an option.


It all depends, do we want freedom or comfort?

This is like people who complain about MS's grip.

Plan your exit, stop using the tools of the abusers.

Blogger Dave January 03, 2017 7:16 AM  

altech said it "Fuck Apple"

What is Android's market share, 80%?

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 7:26 AM  

Plan your exit, stop using the tools of the abusers.

As I said, reprehensibly stupid. The USERS have to stop wanting to use Apple. Gab would be perfectly happy to blow off iOS. You clearly don't understand that a business, particularly a startup, cannot impose its will on its customers.

It is ridiculous to criticize Gab for paying attention to what its users want.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 7:26 AM  

when microsoft wanted to get into the cellphone/mobile game, why didn't they buy BlackBerry?

Because they bought Nokia.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 7:29 AM  

@22 Sillon Bono said:
"This is like people who complain about MS's grip."

People can complain all they want, but until someone comes up with a solution that doesn't cost businesses literally billions in aggregate across the world, in implementation and staff retraining etc, it ain't gunna happen.

I personally have used linux forever, and only upgraded from dumbfone a couple of years ago, but most people go for the market leader or something fit for purpose.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 03, 2017 7:37 AM  

I'm on Blackberry, what's an app?

Blogger Sillon Bono January 03, 2017 8:20 AM  

Rocklea wrote:@22 Sillon Bono said:

"This is like people who complain about MS's grip."

People can complain all they want, but until someone comes up with a solution that doesn't cost businesses literally billions in aggregate across the world, in implementation and staff retraining etc, it ain't gunna happen.

I personally have used linux forever, and only upgraded from dumbfone a couple of years ago, but most people go for the market leader or something fit for purpose.


I'm not stupid, I know what I'm saying very well.

Produce a decent web interface, produce a decent Android client, produce a GAB client for IOS that you can install using jailbreak. And finally produce a fucking client for Linux.

Fucking hell FIGHT!

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 8:31 AM  

Off you go then, produce it. And then convince all the normie IOS users who are going to want to use the new 'twitter but better' to jailbreak their phones.
And linux would just fine with the web interface by the way.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 8:32 AM  

completely OT:
Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' becomes German bestseller
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hitlers-mein-kampf-becomes-german-bestseller-publisher-112022916.html

Anonymous Fran January 03, 2017 8:58 AM  

@30..I thought it was illegal to even hold a copy of that book in Germany

Anonymous Bob Just January 03, 2017 9:03 AM  

@VD: We need a "normal english" to SJW translation dictionary.

I'm pretty sure that to me, you and the readers here, NSFW is not safe for work.

But, Apple and others are translating NSFW as Non-snowflake-worldview.


What % of iphone users would you guess would Jailbreak/Cydia/sideload Gab if it is not available in the AppStore?

@30 About 5+ years ago, I had a friend that smuggled in a copy (from the US) to Germany (along with a bunch of Peanut Butter Cups that he couldn't find over there). He said "Mein Kampf" was banned over there (and that was why he wanted a copy) - I then read the article you've linked - and was thinking "when did that change"? (Said friend then moved to Hong Kong about 3-4 years ago)


Apparently the restriction was lifted last year.

Blogger Kristo Miettinen January 03, 2017 9:10 AM  

Pick up a gauntlet, run a gantlet. Yes, the distinction is being scrubbed out of our latest dictionaries, but where a useful distinction exists and it can be used without loss of meaning, it should be observed.

Anonymous Bob Just January 03, 2017 9:10 AM  

@31 We know that one can get arrested for a Pug raising their paw in a Nazi-esque salute in Scotland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/


Does anyone know if it is also illegal to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark in Germany/Scotland,etc where the little monkey (Capuchin?) does a salute?

Well, according to MentalFloss - it wasn't a salute - the capuchin was reaching for grapes (so, that might make it ok)

Anonymous JamesD January 03, 2017 9:14 AM  

Consider the legal route: anti-competitive practices and monopoly laws. Especially if you have examples of other services not following their guidelines. Should be easy with twitter.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft January 03, 2017 9:15 AM  

@34. That is a priceless article.

If RotLA was illegal to watch there, it might be because of, I dunno, THE ACTUAL NAZIS IN THE MOVIE rather than the monkey?

Anonymous Just another commenter January 03, 2017 9:29 AM  

Go with the net-jitsu. Make the hate work for us, and use the ban as a marketing tool, perhaps.

"Gab - so edgy it's banned by Apple! stop walking on eggshells when you speak, prove you are tough enough to experience actual -intellectual- diversity! Join us, and feel the free (not available on I-phones or where Big Brother applies)!"

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 9:31 AM  

@34 well of course he was arrested, it is 2017 after all.
@35 probably right, it's the perception of Gab being alt-right friendly that's making Apple balk. Didn't they take down Breitbart's app?

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 9:31 AM  

Produce a decent web interface, produce a decent Android client, produce a GAB client for IOS that you can install using jailbreak. And finally produce a fucking client for Linux.

Why don't you stop talking about how easy it is and do it yourself?

Fucking hell FIGHT!

We are fighting. What exactly are you doing? Are you supporting Gab? Are you supporting Infogalactic?

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 9:32 AM  

Go with the net-jitsu. Make the hate work for us, and use the ban as a marketing tool, perhaps.

You can't flip a 500-pound man if you're a 98-pound waif, no matter how good your princess-fu is.

Anonymous Peter Blood January 03, 2017 9:35 AM  

iPhags

Blogger peter blandings January 03, 2017 9:36 AM  

tim cook is the ultimate SJW. he is in a protected class because homo. it is little known that steve jobs chose timmy as his successor not because he thought he was the best man for the job, but rather, because he knew he was the WORST man for the job. steve could not bear the notion that apple would live on without him. so he picked somebody who would reliably destroy the company. and timmy is doing exactly that. all he knows is cost cutting. you can't cost cut your way to greatness. at some point you actually have to make some shit. you couldn't come up with a more UNapple guy than timmy if you sat down at a drawing board and worked at it for a year. aapl is the short of the century, right after long dated treasuries.

Anonymous JamesD January 03, 2017 9:38 AM  

The legal route is "anti competitive practices". Businesses are not allowed to treat customers differently. Therefore if GAB produces an app with the same features as Twitter, Apple is required by law to approve it. This would be filed through the commerce department or justice. I'd wait until Trump gets in.

Blogger Dwight House January 03, 2017 9:47 AM  

Build Gab into a "progressive web app" ( nothing to do with progressivism, that is just what it is called). Apple can't gatekeep the internet, and as an added bonus: no app install required. AppCache for now due to Safari on iOS, then Service Worker.

Anonymous Mathias January 03, 2017 9:47 AM  

VD,

I'm a Linux/C programmer that can do UI's, I already am working on my own next-gen game engine, I would like to add something more commercially practical to my resume/code portfolio, how involved do you think putting out a few Linux UI's for your needs would be? (Gratis, of course).

Blogger plishman January 03, 2017 9:57 AM  

Answer may be to make the Apple Gab offering as thin as possible - just a bookmark web link placed on the home screen, linking to an apple-optimized version of the site - maybe even with no changes at all from the regular tablet/phone RWD version.

All the 'app' would do is install the link to gab.ai as an icon on the home screen.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 03, 2017 10:06 AM  

@17 - Mac OS is a majority of Gab users, when the Mac OS is only about 1/8 of the OS market? Weird. Not what I'd have expected.

Blogger Daniel January 03, 2017 10:10 AM  

Wtf???

Blogger wreckage January 03, 2017 10:22 AM  

Dunning!
Kruger!
By your powers combined!

CAPTAIN FUCKING USELESS ADVICE!

I really hope Apple unfucks itself, I rather like my iPhone. Or I did, before the last update broke its legs.

Blogger Shimshon January 03, 2017 10:32 AM  

@42 I don't know anything about Steve Jobs' intent, but I do have to wonder at the choice. How many operations guys have vision? As you point out, their goal is to cut costs. Tim was a very bad choice.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 03, 2017 10:54 AM  

Yet another case of "you never get out of high school." My Tumblr feed has devolved over the years into nothing but a continual stream of pornography. Yet Tumblr is widely available on iOS. Because they sit at the popular table, beside all the Silicon Valley popular girls, such as Apple Computer.

Gab isn't welcome at that table. Apple will continue to tell them why, then move the goalposts, then rinse & repeat. Gab will never get a seat among the Cool Kids™ if Apple has a say. Never. They will be eternally played with.

So what do you do to the popular mean girl who delights in tormenting you?

Blogger Ron January 03, 2017 11:09 AM  

@Rocklea

I'm betting that's mostly Muslim immigrants, lord knows my beloved cousins love their Hitler. I suspect any native German who wanted to take a gander at Mein Kampf would simply download it off the internet instead of walking around with a copy.

Blogger Ron January 03, 2017 11:11 AM  

@VD

We are fighting. What exactly are you doing? Are you supporting Gab? Are you supporting Infogalactic?

The importance of those two technologies cannot be overstated.

Blogger Gordon January 03, 2017 11:12 AM  

@rubberducky: "So what do you do to the popular mean girl who delights in tormenting you?"

I dunno. Fork her?

Anonymous LastRedoubt January 03, 2017 11:12 AM  

@50 - dunno myself. Even if Tim wasn't the vision guy , and he's the logistics guy, as long as someone had the vision...

I have yet to see evidence someone does. And refocusing on virtue signalling has obviousl stripped them of the time and focus needed to polish their rough edges.

Yeah, I know, a continuum, and hardly free of glitches, but some very dumb crap and odd bugs are coming out of there.

Linux is... OK... (I use Mint regularly, try out other distros), but MS and linux suffer from lack of thoroughness in a lot of ways (though MS has improved) and the rest f the biz started out more mediocre and is also sliding down, with even Open Source having to deal with convergence.

Anonymous BiigGayKoranBurner January 03, 2017 11:30 AM  

TIMMY COOK wont give up on govt overreach unless you question his service poodles' right to be in a bar. http://takimag.com/article/doggie_in_the_gay_bar_a_christmas_tail_david_cole/#axzz4UfO0oKVq

They want us removing content within 24 hours. This is insane.

Content like this https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/german-police-excoriated-protecting-german-women-rapists/

FWIW the developers at apple have even abandoned age-old (LOL) computer terminology like master/slave in favour of leader/follower

TIMMY COOK did break up a KKK meeting when he rode by on his bike.

The only problem now is that they have no visionary ego maniacal asshole at the top to direct it.

Are you questioning the size of Timmy's vision, ego or his asshole? I have heard the last 2 are oversized.

You can't flip a 500-pound man if you're a 98-pound waif, no matter how good your princess-fu is.

Sure you can just poison their Doritos

Anonymous Jack Amok January 03, 2017 11:44 AM  

I can just imagine all the slave drives whirring yassah, yassah, right away sah, too the master drives.

Yeah, but you know what happens in a modern database when the master dies? The slaves elect a new master...

Apple is fairly notorious for being pains in the ass on their App store, and for development in general. They once rejected our app because it used trademarked logos. They were our own trademarks.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 03, 2017 12:11 PM  

@20

Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that Jobs' strategy was necessarily bad, because CLEARLY from a quality standpoint, it wasn't. The problem is that Cook undermined that quality view in order to focus solely on the bottom line. The OpenDarwin move, while it appeals to my sensibilities WRT the open source movement, which BSD is a part of, is another undermining step in terms of Apple's overall approach to quality.

As an iPhone user AFTER being an Android one, I can tell you that I prefer the iOS ecosystem a hell of a lot more than Android, mainly because of those controls in place. If an app is shit, the developer is going to know about it, and Apple is definitely within their rights to be dicks about who and what they let onto their ecosystem. Fundamentally, it makes sense.

The problem that Cook and his minions have hilariously cornered themselves with over the past five years is their SJW mindset. That turns that hawkish eye over their ecosystem into a horribly deadly double-edged sword. Yeah, it's not cool for Andrew and the rest of the Gab crew as it stands, currently, but then again, Apple's also not taking a look at the bigger picture for itself when it does shit like this because of the potential to piss off someone that aligns with them, and THAT will be a hilarious shit show to deal with.

Blogger JCclimber January 03, 2017 12:12 PM  

Right now Apple and Tim Cook are concentrating on spending their billions of $$ on constructing their new headquarters/UFO spaceship. Which really sucks for every other business and homeowner and renter in the entire Cupertino area, besides being unnecessary.

But hey, you know, looking good in your new headquarters is way more important than continuing to innovate tech into new products. I mean, better products than the iWatch.

Blogger Aeoli Pera January 03, 2017 12:25 PM  

Politics is hard. Technology is harder. Doing both requires a bit of unconventional thinking. Good luck.

Anonymous Heywood January 03, 2017 1:03 PM  

When this broke on gab I suggested that @a
1. Get the Android app out stet. Google, for all its other faults, do not play this sort of shit games with their app store.
2. Go on arguing with Apple, collecting an evidence trail, pointing out that current twitter/facebook/tumblr apps in their store do not meet these requirements.
3. Hand over that documentation to the Trump DoJ once the administration has settled down (nothing external of this relative magnitude will be allowed to intrude upon whatever plant T has for the first 100 days, you bet...)

Alas, the man seems utterly fixated on iOS.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 1:21 PM  

Apple is definitely within their rights to be dicks about who and what they let onto their ecosystem. Fundamentally, it makes sense.

Of course it does. But you'll notice that converged companies are totally unwilling to be honest about the fact that their metric is now politics, not quality.

I'm a Linux/C programmer that can do UI's, I already am working on my own next-gen game engine, I would like to add something more commercially practical to my resume/code portfolio, how involved do you think putting out a few Linux UI's for your needs would be? (Gratis, of course).

Sounds intriguing. Shoot me an email with your telephone number.

Blogger kurt9 January 03, 2017 1:26 PM  

All the more reason not to buy anymore Apple products, aside from the music players. The iPhone sales are declining anyways. This will simply add more to the decline. Apple declined precipitously during much of the 90's, prior to the return of The Steve. It nearly went under in '97. Now that Steve is gone for good, I expect Apple to slowly decline once again.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 03, 2017 1:30 PM  

@VD - Hence my use of the word "fundamentally".

They can jerk Andrew and Gab around all they want, and not mention a lick about politics being behind their decisions. The problem with this tactic is that the rules of lying, projecting, and doubling-down are ALWAYS in play, and I can guarantee some little SJW within the App Store is going to let this dangerous power go right to his head. In doing so, there's a fourth law that you might have (or haven't) considered:

SJWs ALWAYS get sloppy.

By "sloppy", I mean that lines blur, intentions are irrelevant, and quality isn't even a blip on the radar. This sloppy attitude puts SJWs at risk of encountering a HUGE backfire when (there is no "if" here) they inevitably screw up. They can't help themselves.

Case in point: Twitter. Or the MSM.

Blogger VD January 03, 2017 1:39 PM  

Alas, the man seems utterly fixated on iOS.

Translation: he uses iPhone.

Anonymous andrewknorr January 03, 2017 1:54 PM  

The istore (or whatever it's called) and Google Play are absolutely anti-trust violators and eventually the FTC will come down on them like a ton of bricked iphones. Apple is destroying all of the innovation in mobile apps and requires many companies, like Tinder, to pay an extortionate 30% fee on all revenues conducted in the istore.

Blogger Mom January 03, 2017 2:53 PM  

A gab app from the App Store would be fine, but certainly is not essential. I go to gab all the time on my Apple devices - I just use my Brave browser. (Go Alt-tech)

Blogger Ingot9455 January 03, 2017 3:15 PM  

Huh. No firearms advertisements on Gab in the recent click-to-accept thing. Now I can see where that's coming from.

Blogger Deadmau5 Patton January 03, 2017 3:28 PM  

To those who think it's easy to simply disregard apple- since the forefront of the free speech fight(Gab's user base) is in the USA and Europe(the places where iOS is most used), an iOS app is somewhat necessary.

It's also seen as a sign of legitimacy to have your app featured in the app store. While you or I might not care or think using these apps is beneficial, a lot of people do, or they simply think they need it and consider the lack of an app automatically makes Gab a 3rd rate amateur product. They'll refuse to migrate to it because of the image of "cheapness" around Gab.

There are also "power users" who want to have a lot more control over preferences which are integrated into their mobile device for ease of use. These people definitely can't be discounted because they're the most likely to make the most of Gab and use it to grow their brands, thereby growing Gab's attractiveness.

If you want Gab to survive, you want gab to make its way into the mainstream. To do that, it's going to need to have the same quality interface as something like twatter, sans censorship.

I get your anger, but be prudent and practical about this.

Blogger The Kurgan January 03, 2017 4:23 PM  

Sillon Bono,
Yes you are stupid.
Shut up and do it yourself.
Except you won't because you're stupid.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 03, 2017 5:19 PM  

My not-entirely-healthy eyes read at first glance:
"We review flagged content and can address it quickly if it breaks the lawl guidelines ..."

And I thought that this could possibly solve everything, because SJWs are rarely funny and are never in it for the LAWLs.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 03, 2017 5:25 PM  

Also BTW, Apple was a total bunch of pricks to the blokes in England who came up with "War on Terror: The Application", which was an iOS version of their board game ...

There was nothing really all that shocking about it except that you could fund terrorism as a tactic within the iOS game and that one of the characters (the orange player) perhaps looks a bit like Hitler.

The board game comes with an EVIL balaclava (which doesn't fit truly evil masterminds with large heads) and actually allows you to become the terrorists.

If you're lucky, you'll still have a copy of the iOS install file, because not only was the game removed from the iTunes Store, but also (at least in my case) it seems to be completely unavailable for download again.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 03, 2017 5:40 PM  

BGKB @56: "Sure you can just poison their Doritos ..."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15526989

http://dogtorj.com/appetizers/newest-appetizers/corn-the-toxic-grain/

http://infogalactic.com/info/Lectin#Toxicity

Hey creature, leave that fat autistic kid alone!

Anonymous BBGKB January 03, 2017 5:56 PM  

Post Alley Crackpot newest-appetizers/corn-the-toxic-grain/

You can actually buy the high protein version of corn that the Indians ate, and as long as you are not near corn fields to hybridize it you could keep it going.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 03, 2017 8:50 PM  

Fedco seed co-op in Maine sells several legacy corn varieties. Green Mountain is a particular favorite here because it tolerates weather that will kill most any other corn.

Anonymous Rocklea January 03, 2017 11:03 PM  

So Apple is SJW?
Great, make them prove it publicly.
Turn the tables. PR.
Release the Android version first.
Next, Who does GAB have in their celebrity stable, who is willing to switch to Android?(this could also be a coup for say Samsung) Then in interviews the celeb can mention how great GAB is for keeping up with their followers etc, and yes I do miss Siri but Android has some great features too etc.
Then Tech mags, headlines like Is Apple GABIST, then Apple double down and project when interviewed.

Blogger liberranter January 03, 2017 11:10 PM  

Notice how Apple attempts to utilize its position as a market gatekeeper to force other companies, such as Gab, to jump through various hoops, and potentially, even converge itself, in order to access the customers Apple controls.

Yet another reason to shitcan any Apple products you made the mistake of buying. Grossly overpriced and overhyped, shitty customer service (on a good day), completely devoid of any original functionality that might otherwise justify the inflated prices, and going nowhere fast in terms of innovation (Steve Jobs left no creative heirs, genetic or otherwise), this is the last company that needs to be focusing on social engineering at the expensive of technological engineering.

Fuck Apple. It's a dead company walking. Soon even the consumerist morons that are keeping it alive will come to their senses.

Anonymous Lord T January 04, 2017 8:43 AM  

Personally I'd leave Apple for the SJWs and just put an article up saying that Apple insisted on too many mods to protect their users sensibilities. So Gab won't have a iPhone app. Why support the enemy?

Blogger Thucydides January 05, 2017 3:07 PM  

Don't forget to make an app for the Blackberry market as well. Really rub it in Apple's face.

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