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Saturday, February 25, 2017

Advice to the Alt-Right

The Zman remembers how the promise of Morning in America went badly awry:
That’s the first bit of advice I offer to the alt-right. Trust no one. In the Reagan Revolution, it was impossible to tell the grifters from the committed. Lots of people attached themselves to conservatism, as writers, thinkers and commentators, simply because there was money in it. The term “Conservative Inc.” did not exist in the 80’s, but the idea of it sure did. Just ask Charles Krauthammer. He was a liberal speech writer for Walter Mondale and then he changed teams, because there was more money in being a right-winger.

Related to this is the recent Milo flap, where he was cut down by previous statements he made in one of his “look at me I’m outrageous” performances. He was ever so close to finally getting onto the big stage, making it to the show, but now he has been sent down to the minors and his career is in doubt. The people in charge of the stage have strict rules about who gets on and what they say while on the stage. You either submit to these rules or they toss you from the stage.

Conservatives in the 80’s made this blunder. They truly thought they would be accepted into the club if the public embraced them. The people in charge don’t give a damn about the public’s opinion. They care about controlling the message and the media stage is the platform from which the message is broadcast. If you want onto the stage, it means signing a blood oath to promote the message and there is no room for compromise. There are two sides in this, pick one and live with the choice.

That’s why it is important to no-platform the people in charge. It would glorious if all Trump voters dropped their cable sub this month, but that’s not happening. People like their entertainments. What you can do is build your own media platforms by relentlessly supporting the new ones coming on-line now.... Supporting the media that supports you means looking for a friendly source before going to the mainstream source. It also means the leaders and big shots of the movement need to stay the hell off the mainstream platforms. Milo doing Maher did everything for Maher and nothing for Milo. Anyone who tries to get onto the big stage and mix it up with the mainstream media should be suspect. It is the Golden Rule, the man with the gold makes the rules and in media, it is the man who owns the stage who makes the rules.

The big lesson from the Reagan Revolution is that optimism is easily used as a weapon against the optimistic. All the “Morning in America” bullshit in the 80’s fooled a lot of people into thinking the fight was over and the results were a foregone conclusion. Young people were convinced they had been born into the springtime of a cultural revolution, when in fact they had been born into the early winter of a declining civilization.
We saw this with the Tea Party too. It had no sooner begun to build momentum when all of the Richard Armitrages and Dana Loesches began leaping to the front of the parade and leading it into oblivion. Fortunately, the "Alt-Right is Hitler" tends to prevent most of the grifters from jumping on board the train, although CPAC's embrace of Bannon, Trump, and near-embrace of Milo may signify that they are going to begin trying to coopt the Alt-Right since demonizing it failed.

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74 Comments:

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 25, 2017 10:08 AM  

Reagan's fatal flaw was allowing HW on the ticket in the first place.

And all of the virtue signaling on McMaster made me realize something: he's still just an ADVISOR. If he ends up bullshitting the God-Emperor, it's now precedent that he can be easily replaced.

Anonymous Loki7 February 25, 2017 10:18 AM  

Well we don`t have to worry about some attempting to co-op the Alt-Right. Yesterday I heard a black minister on national radio assert that Trump, Bannon, and Milo were in a gay triangle.

Anonymous Vin February 25, 2017 10:21 AM  

With a strict & universal requirement of at least race realism to be accepted by Alt Right rank and file, any real attempt at co-opting would be a seismic shift of the O Window, whether successful or not, no?

The Tea Party wasn't nearly that much of a leap.

Blogger exfarmkid February 25, 2017 10:22 AM  

SemiSpook37: "Reagan's fatal flaw was allowing HW on the ticket in the first place."

It is called "reality".

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 25, 2017 10:30 AM  

Even so, it's the primary reason things fell apart after Reagan left office. Just because something "seems" like a good idea at the time doesn't necessarily make it so in hindsight.

Blogger RobM February 25, 2017 10:30 AM  

Seeing the Tea Party killed off by the machine and the grifters served a purpose. Having gone through that made Trump's candidacy and his message resonate. .. and too, it will serve Trump supporters well to know both sides of the DC machine is out to wreck this administration so they can get back to their games.

Anonymous Godfrey February 25, 2017 10:34 AM  

Reagan was shot within 90 days of taking office. He got the message and rolled over.

Oh... and he was supposedly shot by the deranged son of a Bush family friend.

Anonymous Rocklea February 25, 2017 10:35 AM  

"although CPAC's embrace of Bannon, Trump, and near-embrace of Milo may signify that they are going to begin trying to coopt the Alt-Right since demonizing it failed."

I watched the CPAC chat with Schlapp, Priebus and Bannon. They're all practiced public speakers. The tone from Bannon was enthusiasm and passion.
Schlapp sounded enthusiastic, but when you read the transcript(thank you Vox), Schlapp's words don't match the spoken tone:
"Here's what we decided to do at CPAC with the uninvited. We decided to say that everybody's a part of our conservative family."
Priebus was constantly trying to touch Bannon affectionately, but it did not look affectionate.
It's hard to put into words, but their was a stark difference between the video and the transcript.

Both Bannon, and Trump the next day, were talking directly to the people for help to get their agenda through. Pedal to the metal. Cuckservatives will cuck to the Alt-Right eventually.

Anonymous Godfrey February 25, 2017 10:35 AM  

@4

It was a mistake. Reagan could have won without Bush. Reagan made a deal with the Devil and surprise, surprise, the Devil double-crossed him.

Anonymous Godfrey February 25, 2017 10:39 AM  

@6

Correct. I saw it first hand too. And I think A LOT of people learned a valuable lesson. Never, ever trust an insider.

Blogger ZhukovG February 25, 2017 10:52 AM  

Reagan was the first President I voted for. It seemed like 8 years of winning and then.... WTF!

Blogger Richard Stone February 25, 2017 10:52 AM  

"Oh... and he was supposedly shot by the deranged son of a Bush family friend."

All those who scoffed at the idea of The Bush Crime Family are rather silent now. They were worse than democrats.

Anonymous BBGKB February 25, 2017 11:03 AM  

SemiSpook37 what did you think when the black spook on Maher's show said it would take 300 spooks months to do a simple keyword search?

In the Reagan Revolution, it was impossible to tell the (((grifters))) from the committed.

Hopefully we have learned since then.

All those who scoffed at the idea of The Bush Crime Family are rather silent now.

Being a millionaire from a crime family Jeb should have been able to get a wife that didn't look like Tattoo from fantasy island.

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 25, 2017 11:06 AM  

Reagan's fatal flaw was allowing HW on the ticket in the first place.

Indeed it was - likely of the greatest of several made. I seriously doubt Pence can be trusted any more than Herbert Walker Prescott-Bush can be though. If you look at his record as Indiana governor, there's considerable cuckery to be found. Makes me wonder how many trips to Epstein's magic island he's made.

How many are still subscribing to cable, still buying things on debt, still sending their kids to public edumacayshun? As the writer stated, those who own the platform are the enemy - the platform needs to be replaced altogether and those in charge of the present one destroyed completely. This includes firms like Disney and a host of others. It also includes Wall Street.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants February 25, 2017 11:09 AM  

Reagan initially fought tooth & nail against picking HW. His mistake was letting them wear him down. It happened all too frequently, unfortunately.

Anonymous VFM #6306 February 25, 2017 11:11 AM  

Governor Reagan was an insider who worked the system.

Developer Trump is an outsider who leveraged the system with the goal of breaking the system.

It may fail, but it won't fail because we get fooled that CPAC is one of us fellow savages.

Blogger Dirtnapninja February 25, 2017 11:14 AM  

Instead of seeking to be respectable, we need to change the definition of what respectable is. the Enemy controls the terms of respectability. We need to wrest those terms from them.

Blogger pyrrhus February 25, 2017 11:17 AM  

Yet another advantage of being "literally" Hitler--not as many parasites trying to climb on board, yet....

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr February 25, 2017 11:17 AM  

We're not being co-opted this time. The old conservatives may become auxiliary troops...but we're the Legions of Civilization Reborn.

Blogger Robert Browning February 25, 2017 11:18 AM  

Being overtly hostile to Jews and Jew interests is the best defense and the best offense.

Blogger wreckage February 25, 2017 11:18 AM  

Perhaps there will be grifters.

Perhaps parasites might breed where the animals are healthiest.

Which is my way of saying, any taste of success will bring parasitism, to any organization. Hell, you could call the modern left the giant tapeworm that ate its way out of the Union movement, and now the organ-fluke of SJWism is eating its way out of the tapeworm.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants February 25, 2017 11:19 AM  

The biggest problem with the Tea Party was that you had a bunch of middle aged to older protestors, people that are good decent folk, but they are naive to policy, they are naive to how media works, how these interests groups work, the time required, that one or two marches from them wasn't going to be the be all, end all, but these people don't do these things lefties do, because they have actual jobs & families & real life responsibilities.
Housewives from Idaho can't go sleep in Zucotti Park for a month. So, being naive, they were really thrown when the media & left & the Bill Kristol right, demonized them so thoroughly. This led to them being relieved to go back to their worlds & let it go, and also gave the grifters a wide open door to dance through. Dana Loesch & grifter hubby, Chris, are an excellent example of just pure opportunists. Glenn Beck being the biggest & the worst, of course.

Blogger pyrrhus February 25, 2017 11:21 AM  

@15 Reagan initially fought tooth & nail against picking HW. His mistake was letting them wear him down. It happened all too frequently, unfortunately.

Reagan simply did not have the energy level or intensity of Trump, and allowed Nancy to surround him with "moderates."

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 25, 2017 11:26 AM  

@BBGKB

Well, I avoid Maher like the Plague, but I can definitely confirm the ineptitude. I attempted to be a spook myself for about 27 months, and the bullshit just drove me out of the Civil Service entirely.

Gray thinking has its place, but intelligence is not a place for it. You can nuance the shit out of something to your heart's content, but at the end of the day, if "bad" actor A has access to X, that's not good, and something needs to be done about it.

The problem here is the community has no fucking clue as to the seriousness of the situation. Entering into ANOTHER conflict because someone's feelings got hurt is not a good idea...EVER.

This is why I hate participation trophies. Why can't these losers learn to lose properly and just get the fuck over it?

Blogger Patrick Wilson February 25, 2017 11:31 AM  

My first thought @ seeing the Milo announcement was that it was a trap, all of the cpac'ers I know are status quo people happy to delude themselves that it's more important to undermine their own than actually produce results. I liked Trump's speech but was not thrilled at the forum.

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 25, 2017 11:32 AM  

@Zeroh

The problem here is that they succeeded. Someone else mentioned downthread about Pence and his cuckish tendencies. We will see. He's on a short leash, too, and if he steps out of line, he will also be replaced.

Blogger pyrrhus February 25, 2017 11:42 AM  

22. The biggest problem with the Tea Party was that you had a bunch of middle aged to older protestors, people that are good decent folk, but they are naive to policy, they are naive to how media works, how these interests groups work, the time required, that one or two marches from them wasn't going to be the be all, end all, but these people don't do these things lefties do, because they have actual jobs & families & real life responsibilities.

Yes, but the biggest problem with the Tea Party was that they didn't have a program to drain the swamp. "Good Government" is meaningless, or rather, it means whatever the MSM says it means."Reform" doesn't work, we need to abolish whole departments and rafts of programs... The same applies to ongoing discussions I have been involved in regarding "reforming" the Federal judiciary. The schemes proposed won't work because judges are, in fact, almost completely invulnerable, and will, in most circuits, be protected by the establishment from retaliation even for totally outrageous behavior. My conclusion--the only way to drain the swamp is to abolish the lower federal judiciary, or to abolish life tenure and force them to run for re-election rather frequently.

Blogger kurt9 February 25, 2017 11:43 AM  

I came of age with Reagan and became bitterly disappointed in the early 90's. I agree with those of you who say putting HW on the ticket was a big part of the problem. I wanted Jack Kemp on that ticket.

I will tell you that I have already "cut the cable", in reality ended my satellite service, although for more budgetary rather than political reasons. I have to say I like the fact the MSM no longer has a direct path into my house. I have also stopped watching movies (DVD's) that have certain progressive celebrities in them (George Clooney and Matt Damon are two immediate examples). I eagerly look forward to a replacement for facebook and google as well.

Maybe the best solution is to spend lots of time outdoors starting this spring.

Blogger Salt February 25, 2017 11:47 AM  

The CPAC event was disgusting, acting like it's the engine of the Trump Train while it's not even the caboose. It'll be telling when the mid-terms roll around and whom CPAC goes in for.

Blogger pyrrhus February 25, 2017 11:49 AM  

Note that Betsy DeVos is already going off the reservation despite being overruled by Trump on the transgender nonsense....Moderates simply cannot be trusted in positions of power...

Anonymous badhairday February 25, 2017 11:51 AM  

Judging from Milo's rather hyper appearance on the Bill Maher show the MSM's plan seems to be:

Get someone to call them self 'the leader of the Alt-Right' and then destroy them to discredit.

A bit like the Fool-king from 'The Wicker Man'

When someone asks you:
Who is the leader of the Alt-Right?
Just answer:
Pepe - I think he's an immigrant from Kekestan or somewhere.

Given enough time they'll grasp that the Alt-Right isn't a political party.

Blogger Silly But True February 25, 2017 11:53 AM  

It wouldn't surprise me if HW and Stanley Ann Dunham were bffs.

Blogger pyrrhus February 25, 2017 11:53 AM  

@28 Jack Kemp, at least, was not a Deep State person, though pretty liberal....

What would be great is forcing cable providers to unbundle, in which case we would dump 90% of everything including all the MSM.

Blogger Nick S February 25, 2017 12:10 PM  

This train is unstoppable...more like a bulldozer...or a wrecking ball...or Mjolnir.

Blogger Harsh February 25, 2017 12:18 PM  

The alt-right has nothing to fear as long as it lives by one simple motto: Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Blogger Johnny February 25, 2017 12:44 PM  

Zeroh Tollrants wrote:Reagan initially fought tooth & nail against picking HW. His mistake was letting them wear him down. It happened all too frequently, unfortunately.

What I recall about Reagan is that he made a good faith effort to reduce federal spending, could not get it done, and then (apparently) decided that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and spread the wealth around in his side of the aisle. Tax cuts and some spending.

In politics Reagan was traditional conservative, a position often disparaged on this board. You know, cuckolds. My take is that our current culture does not allow moderate positions to be implemented. Thus the gradual radicalism of the right so as to match up against the radical left.

Blogger Hen February 25, 2017 12:45 PM  

We cancelled our cable with intent of being regular supporters of infogalictic and Stephan M. (and others as appropriate). Had a little in house ceremony with lots of chocolate, heh. We have Antifas living down the street. Old phartts. Our dog likes to pooh there...and we encourage that. Long live Trump!!

Anonymous LurkingPuppy February 25, 2017 12:47 PM  

Infogalactic doesn't know about a ‘Richard Armitrage’. Do you mean ‘Dick Armey’ (formerly of FreedomWorks; left after they stabbed an ally in the back) or ‘Richard Armitage’ (the Deputy Secretary of State who actually outed Valerie Plame)?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Dick_Armey
https://infogalactic.com/info/Richard_Armitage_(politician)

Blogger VD February 25, 2017 12:53 PM  

Note that Betsy DeVos is already going off the reservation despite being overruled by Trump on the transgender nonsense....Moderates simply cannot be trusted in positions of power.

She'll be the next to go.

Blogger praetorian February 25, 2017 1:07 PM  

Kryptonite for cucks: we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

Watch'em melt, move on.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 25, 2017 1:17 PM  

The TEA Party actually believed in the Constitution. That politely petitioning for redress of grievances, running alternative candidates to GOPe in primaries, respectfully protesting, would work. That's why the DC Mall was cleaner after the TEA Party demonstration than before; they not only cleaned up their own trash but the trash of others.

It's reasonable for a bunch of 50+ something white people to expect other white people in government to act like them. That's why TEA Party was so easy to co-opt.

TEA Party was the polite, "Please, would you people stop this?" and it got co-opted, swatted away, dismissed with contempt. Because TEA Party people actually cared what the GOPe and the swamp stream media thought about them, they were pretty easy to manipulate, to reduce to a handful of retirees sitting in a tent at the county fair, etc.

Trump Train does not care what GOPe thinks or says. Trump Train enjoys the squeals of media insiders indignation.

We. Don't. Care.

Anonymous Avalanche February 25, 2017 1:37 PM  

@8 "Priebus was constantly trying to touch Bannon affectionately, but it did not look affectionate."

Oh, I dunno, it looked to me like the high school dweeb who is included in a school debate with the captain of the football team, and it's as close to 'being a friend' as he will ever manage! I was mildly impressed with Rience Dweebus -- my impression (from his words and 'presence/action') is he really IS trying to fit into the cool kids clique -- and is grateful they let him organize the filing cabinet and print out the captain's schedule! And he SEEMS to be pretty good at it!

Anonymous Frank1961 February 25, 2017 2:43 PM  

I came of age, politically, in 1980 with the Reagan Revolution while at Indiana State University. I joined the College Republicans, becoming ISU CR chairman and later, vice-chair of the Indiana CR Federation.

From that perspective, I could see that things were screwed from the start.

Nothing attracts weasels like success and Reagan's success was a beacon. The movement leadership rapidly filled with people I term "political mercenaries." They held no ideals, only ambition. Privately, among people they thought were like themselves, they mocked Reagan and conservative "true believers."

I believe these now lead the Conservative movement, twisting it into something Reagan wouldn't have recognized.

Not just in politics-- I watched guys I knew worm their way into evangelical circles, even though their only god was in their trousers. It was a path to power and evangelicals were eager to believe anyone who would pretend to join them. In those days, much corruption poured into the church because it looked for political saviors.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 25, 2017 2:46 PM  

Something Nate pointed out. Cable is a generational thing.

The Silents and the Boomers on the other hand can't go five seconds without TV. They have to have one wherever they go. The moment they enter a hotel room they start feverishly looking around for a remote and once located begin frantically flipping channels until they are acclimatized to the unaccustomed channel menu.

I love my in-laws but the fact that they have to have something on the tube constantly drives me nuts.

But the TV newsies face a stark future. Gen X and below just don't watch TV like that. My TV is hooked up to five year old desk-top whose only job now is stream videos. A builder I talked to informed me that the houses he builds for younger younger families are only wired with Cat5e cable. They aren't bothering with coaxial.

Anonymous Mark Auld February 25, 2017 3:04 PM  

Note on cABLE bundling, watch the new R chairman,young smart and ready to burn the establishment down.His name is Ajit Pi (sp?)he is going to take the FCC in a deregulated brave new direction.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 25, 2017 3:13 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:The Silents and the Boomers on the other hand can't go five seconds without TV. They have to have one wherever they go.
This is my brother. When we visit, there's the 74" One-Eyed God. Always on. ALWAYS

We threw out our television in 1980. My wife asked "Do you really want our kids watching this crap?"
Never regretted it.

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 25, 2017 3:15 PM  

X-er here. Can confirm. Stopped paying for Crapcast last year, and haven't looked back. There's ways to get certain content, and we use those accordingly.

Hell, I get better picture streaming on my PS4 than I ever did with my rented Crapcast box. And that's while being on another cable system's network.

Blogger JWM in SD February 25, 2017 3:35 PM  

Can someone explain the appeal of Dana Loesch? Outside of looking nice and pretending to like guns, I just don't see her appeal.

Anonymous Icicle February 25, 2017 3:42 PM  

Tits.

Blogger Johnny February 25, 2017 4:01 PM  

>>The Silents and the Boomers on the other hand can't go five seconds without TV.

The young adults I see all go around with the cellphone in use.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 25, 2017 4:07 PM  

Cable is a generational thing.

Watch Millennials in coffee joints. They are viewing Vimeo or YouTube or even Hulu on phone, tablet or maybe laptop. Phone contracts can be had with unlimited data now, so any handset is also a hotspot. The cable companies are morphing into being ISP's, data pipes.

Last year I stumbled over a survey, maybe it was Arbitron, that stated demographics for TV viewing. The majority of off-air viewers are over 50. The majority of cable viewers are over 40. By the time the FCC gets around to forcing unbundling on cable, nobody will care.

One of my fave restaurants has no TV screens anywhere, yet I see boomers eating there, go figure. Some bars have 5 or more screens, it's just ridiculous, nobody watches anything except sports.

Bundle CNN and the rest up with Carlos Slim's blog and roll the whole mess into a retirement home. They're all fading. Hence the desperation.

Blogger Elder Son February 25, 2017 4:08 PM  

How many CFR are surrounding Trump, that he personally brought in?

Blogger Lovekraft February 25, 2017 4:14 PM  

I expect little resistance to the co-opting of the alt-right brand. A buck's a buck. Doesn't really matter since the alt-right will just reform whenever free men are able to speak their minds.

This period is new to most of us: being on the winning side. We're witnessing firsthand how the left reacts to real opposition, so we should observe the McInnesses, Southerns etc and how they resist the left.

But there's alwyas hope in the next generation. They are witnessing their brash heroes get cleaned out, are bitter at the drivel coming from mainstream media, and are internet savvy. I doubt Washington Times and MSNBC hold any sway.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 25, 2017 4:19 PM  

I expect little resistance to the co-opting of the alt-right brand

How will that happen? Will they just co-opt the leader of the alt-Right?

Who is the leader of the alt-Right, Lovecraft?

Blogger VD February 25, 2017 4:32 PM  

Can someone explain the appeal of Dana Loesch? Outside of looking nice and pretending to like guns, I just don't see her appeal.

She's pretty and she can parrot the current conservative Narrative with conviction.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 25, 2017 4:36 PM  

VD wrote:She's pretty and she can parrot the current conservative Narrative with conviction.
She's incoherent, and can barely string two sentences together at a time.
She also comes across as a hateful bitch, but some men like that, I guess.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 25, 2017 5:17 PM  

One of my fave restaurants has no TV screens anywhere...

That has become the definition of a classy restaurant in America.

Tragic.

Blogger totenhenchen February 25, 2017 5:26 PM  

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Blogger totenhenchen February 25, 2017 5:27 PM  

Eventually? Did you perhaps mean "as a matter of course and habit"?

Anonymous Icicle February 25, 2017 5:31 PM  

It's not a restaurant unless you have a beer in one hand and Jerry Springer on.

Blogger JWM in SD February 25, 2017 5:48 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:VD wrote:She's pretty and she can parrot the current conservative Narrative with conviction.

She's incoherent, and can barely string two sentences together at a time.

She also comes across as a hateful bitch, but some men like that, I guess.


Yeah, I suppose so. I don't why, but the thought that Dana seems to have replaced Michelle Malkin keeps popping into my mind. Probably because I just saw Malkin on with Molyneux.

Blogger Lazarus February 25, 2017 9:21 PM  

Hey ladies, how you liking the transgender thing now?

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/northeast-tarrant/article135021414.html

bwahaha, yes?

Blogger Tom Terrific February 25, 2017 10:01 PM  

I was less than impressed with MILO's performance on Bill Maher. The way he let the NeverFunnyMagicNegro slap him silent was embarrassing. To be honest, he wasn't outrageous enough. He looked like he was looking for common ground with Bill.

It will turn out to be a blessing in disguise that he didn't speak at CPAC. Those people are so out of touch. As Vox said the other day, "The Cucks Cucked Cuckingly", or "Cuckingly the Cucks Cucked", or something like that. I loved what I heard about what Trump said and I watched the clip where he pointed out he only said, "FAKE news is the enemy of the people" but the media totally left out the word "Fake" (because they couldn't hear it) and then tripped out in high dudgeon over not being properly respected, bowed down to and fellated by the most powerful man in the world!

I love how desperately the Establishment, right and left, are trying to identify the leaders of the alt-right so they can destroy them. They thought they had us when they seemingly destroyed MILO. But they didn't and they can't. We don't use their systems so they have no means to destroy us. The Alt-Right is a creature and a creation of the internet. A truly distributed network of unknow millions connected by Ideas. And a person only has to agree with a minimum number of concepts to feel connected to the whole network and consider himself Alt-Right.

We have no idea, no one does, where this New Thing will take us but it will be better than here and now.

Blogger Lazarus February 25, 2017 10:54 PM  

Tom Terrific wrote:I was less than impressed with MILO's performance on Bill Maher.

Bad advice from somebody, but to be fair, it was 3 against one.

I look forward to Milo 2.0, if there is one. The platforms have gone quiet.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey February 25, 2017 10:56 PM  

@Godrey
"he was supposedly shot by the deranged son of a Bush family friend."

John Hinckley Sr. was a friend, campaign donor, and business associate of GHWB. Neil Bush was scheduled to have dinner with the Hinckleys on the day Reagan was shot. Just a coincidence, though. Jodie Foster was the important of the story, so don't worry about it.

Blogger Lazarus February 25, 2017 11:17 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:John Hinckley Sr. was a friend, campaign donor, and business associate of GHWB.

When that motherfucker was wheeled out at the SuperBowl, someone should have rammed him through with the first down marker. It has a pointy end that is kinda dulled, but that would make it hurt more, wouldn't it?

Blogger scimitar February 25, 2017 11:45 PM  

love the Zman...what insight The internet blogs and bloggers are every bit as smart and insightful as any asshole from the Wash Post, NY Times...thank you Vox for all you do!!!

Anonymous LurkingPuppy February 26, 2017 12:13 AM  

VD wrote:Can someone explain the appeal of Dana Loesch? Outside of looking nice and pretending to like guns, I just don't see her appeal.

She's pretty and she can parrot the current conservative Narrative with conviction.

And she can sell cute little jars of Magic Beet Juice Powder too. (Fun fact: Cities dump beet juice powder on their roads by the truckload as a de-icing agent.)

Godfrey wrote:It was a mistake. Reagan could have won without Bush. Reagan made a deal with the Devil and surprise, surprise, the Devil double-crossed him.
No, he couldn't have won. The Republican establishment was able to throw Goldwater's candidacy to the Democrats, and they did the same to Dole in 1996. There was no social media in 1980; the Internet was still a playground for academics, and the standard-setting IBM PC wasn't available until 1981. He had no realistic way to bypass the media at that time.

Reagan did very nearly the best he could have given the time and circumstances.

Blogger Casher O'Neill February 26, 2017 9:49 AM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:We're not being co-opted this time. The old conservatives may become auxiliary troops...but we're the Legions of Civilization Reborn.

This is why it is important to pay attention to what Trump, Bannon, and Priebus have been saying. Vox and a few others can keep up the theoretical and international work of the alt-right, but for America, the question is settled. Bannon, Anton, and their associates are now the de facto heads of the alternative right in America, even if they eschew the name. To be practically successful, all movements have to be institutionalized to some degree. Most of the legacy right wing institutions that infect DC, (Heritage, AEI, CATO, Congress) are not on board with the administration and are open about their desire to reform the administration in their own image. This is why Bannon keeps saying that we need to keep the pressure on the administration and hold it to its promises. If we can keep up our own informal psychological operations attend his rallies, constantly contact our representatives, and find creative and useful ways to channel the energies of our own crazies on the extreme so they don't do anything harmful that's a good start.

Patrick Wilson wrote:I liked Trump's speech but was not thrilled at the forum.
Trump does have to own and reshape as much of the old right he can. There is a difference between reaching out to partial allies and finding useful work that can engage in on one hand and trusting them with everything on the other. Alt-right is not large enough to run this show on its own, and it needs some friends even in DC. As with the old unsteady alliance between religious conservatives and big business interests in the GOP of the recent past, some of the legacy movement conservatives and neocons will come into alignment with alt-right because they will be fighting the same enemy (albeit on a different front)

Lovekraft wrote:I expect little resistance to the co-opting of the alt-right brand. A buck's a buck. Doesn't really matter since the alt-right will just reform whenever free men are able to speak their minds.
I agree. Vox can keep promoting it internationally, but if the brand becomes toxic in our particular environment, it is more important to remember who we are fighting with and what we are fighting for, rather than clinging to a naked name.

Blogger Casher O'Neill February 26, 2017 10:01 AM  

A bit more on Trump turning CPAC into a Trump rally. Their straw poll:

"86 percent of those polled approve of the job Donald Trump is doing as president.
80 percent believe President Trump is realigning the conservative movement.
90 percent approve of President Trump’s policies and agenda.
94 percent said they approved of Trump Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.
91 percent support Trump policy cutting off federal funds to “sanctuary” cities.
67 percent say republicans in congress should be doing more to support Trump.
75 percent want Mitch McConnell to end filibuster rule to nominate Gorsuch.
81 percent approve of President Trump immigration executive order (travel ban).
70 percent want Trump to continue using Twitter to fight back against MSM"

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/25/cpac-straw-poll-the-common-sense-insurgency-crosses-another-threshold/#more-129162

Anonymous Teapartydoc February 26, 2017 10:54 AM  

The left destroys by infiltration, and that infiltration can be conscious, coherent, and conspiratorial, or it can be spontaneous and self-interestedly motivated. Keeping the alt-right distasteful definitely has its advantages. This will tend to keep out most of the infiltrators who are driven by a profit motive. It doesn't necessarily innocuate against the other kind. In this case expect the infiltrators to be enthusiastic and even exaggerate traits that they think will endear them to the cause. If someone seems too good to be true it is usually because they are.

Blogger TheUnbeholden February 27, 2017 4:58 AM  

Question was asked: Won't whites get their race recognition once they achieve minority status? In other words, whites can have their white pride month when a minority.

My answer with a question : Do you really think any majority other than white will be as tolerant to whites as the whites are to non-white minorities?

Given how minorities are in their native Country is how I think we must gauge how they will be if in power in U.S. When whites lose power in the U.S. we will have become a very poor Country where even the majority will live in squalors, and whites, even though the minority, will be blamed. You won't want to be a white minority living in the U.S.A., because it will be nothing like the black or Hispanic minority living in the U.S.A.

Look at South Africa. Whites treated very poorly and have no opportunity, in spite of their capability. As a result, South Africa is falling apart.

The slums and ghettos we have here in America are not due to white oppression. They are due to minorities unwilling and unable to adapt. Poverty is not the cause of crime, rather, it's more accurate the other way around. The white liberals, due to their false white guilt have only exacerbated the problem. By coddling the minority through giving them unearned benefits only deepens their reliance on others and thwarts individual ambition and drive.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd February 27, 2017 8:35 AM  

Casher O'Neill wrote:Bannon, Anton, and their associates are now the de facto heads of the alternative right in America, even if they eschew the name.

They are our agents. They will be replaced if _they_ don't follow _our_ lead. I am the de facto head of the Alt-Right, and you can too.


The Alt-Right put Trump in office. The Alt-Right will replace him in 8 years.

Anonymous Rfvujm February 27, 2017 11:02 AM  

Is there any hope, any advice for those who can't keep the tv off? Those I've dealt with don't seem open to reason on it, and I'm not sure why.

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