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Thursday, February 09, 2017

Mailvox: SJWs have no loyalty

Jon sent me this at my request. For more details concerning his blackballing by Baycon, he has a post up at his own site. His story is an illustration of the falsity of the illusion to which many "nice conservatives" are still subject, those who don't realize that SJWs will judge them by the identity of their politics, not the content of their character or the perfection of their etiquette. He's right: SJWs had, and have, no loyalty.

The Science Fiction and Fantasy writing and convention scene is one of the worst SJW converged subcultures. While Hollywood promotes extreme perversion and hedonism, they don’t push nearly as hard as SF/F literary groups when it comes to the intellectual aspects of identity politics. My name is Jon Del Arroz, I write Science Fiction, and this is my story.

I had grown up in this community as an avid reader and convention attendee. I used to be what you would call one of those “nice guy conservatives.” I would keep silent about my politics to the best of my ability, while smiling and allowing others to rant and rave to their hearts’ content. My first foray into irritation over this occurred when Baycon, a local convention in the San Francisco Bay Area, ran a talk on how to convince friends out of believing in Creationism. I wrote to the programming director of the convention, citing my concern over how anti-Christian that sounded, and how this didn’t seem relevant to Science Fiction at all. They dismissed my concerns and told me to attend anyway.

The next year, I’d gained prominence as the writer of a web comic which had garnered some praise and a lot of web traffic. This time, they invited me to the convention and placed me on a program. Because of my Hispanic last name, they made me speak about how difficult it is for minorities in Science Fiction. I’ve never met any resistance to my being Hispanic in the SF publishing field, and I found it more of a challenge to survive that hour and a half in the company of the whining panelists

Fast forward several years later, after I’d invested time and effort speaking on panels, entertaining convention attendees and being a good friend to everyone. Whispers about the evil Sad Puppies stealing Hugo awards circled the halls. Although I’d voted with the Sad Puppies, I stayed quiet. I’d spoken personally to several prominent members of the Sad and Rabid Puppies movements by this point and learned they were nice, professional people and not the monsters they had been made out to be by the SJWs.

All the while, the God-Emperor was ascending in politics. He took slings and arrows. Many conservatives in the Sci-Fi publishing field had been hit as well. I saw the guilt by association on a regular basis, and it angered me to see people attacked for the way they voted. I still didn’t speak out much, as I had my first novel due for release the week after the election. My brainwashing from years of conventions told me I couldn’t afford that association if I wanted to sell books.

Trump won. I made a few posts as to how I was happy with the outcome of the election, complete with donning my red hat. What happened next? I received a nasty letter from my editor’s assistant about how intolerant and inflexible I was, telling me that I was not likely to be invited to be published again. SJWs weren’t just attacking someone I knew on the periphery. They’d come for me. I decided the best course of action would be to take a stand and be positive, say how proud I was of our country, of Trump and his team. My friends from the SF/F world quickly evaporated. I’d been blocked on social media, ignored by people with whom I thought I’d developed deep relationships. I’d spent hours critiquing other writers’ novels and improving their craft, yet they would not even share a link to my work, let alone make a purchase, to support me. SJWs had, and have, no loyalty.

This began my transition from “nice guy conservative” to “I am proud to be who I am.” I corresponded with prominent authors privately about what had transpired. Many of the Sad and Rabid Puppies told me I was not alone. They hardly knew me, yet helped me promote my book. I learned a valuable lesson on the meaning of true friendship and loyalty. If someone doesn’t share any core values with you, they will leave you in the dust. It’s only a matter of time.

I still couldn't bring myself to fully speak out in these situations, fearing the loss of more long time friends. Vox emailed me with: “Learn to go public. One reason they get away with it is because everyone they do it to tries to keep it quiet. You shouldn't.” These words haunted me, but I still clung to the past, hoping desperately that I could retain at least some of the relationships I had from my years of hard work and supporting other writers.

Inauguration time. The angry posts calling me and mine Nazis had not died down. The angry responses continued as well. My own cousin, with whom I grew up and played Risk ‘til the wee hours of the morning, disowned me over my Trump support. He told me he was ashamed to call me family, and that I was never his friend. Matters became worse in the Science Fiction world. Prominent authors stepped up their game of name-calling. I wear their condemnations as badges of honor and will use them as blurbs on future books. I’d finally had enough when I found that my home convention, where I’d been a guest for years had blackballed me from speaking.

I’m done. It’s too much. There’s no logic. There’s no rationality. There’s no love. There’s no friendship. SJWs want to shut me down and destroy my career, and they want to find you and do the same to you, if they haven’t already. I’ve taken the leap of going public. I’m not scared to say who I am, who I like, who I voted for. They’re not going to shut me up because I have the platform of the internet. Vox was right. Every single time they shut you down, go public with it as I just did.

I’ve gotten a few hateful comments, but nothing worse than they’ve already called me. The people who were on the fringes of hating me, but warned me that I needed to play ball, were going to hate me anyway. I’m not losing anything. These people were not going to buy my products. They’re not going to support you either. But it’s not that bad. There is tremendous upside to going public, however.

I’ve had congratulations from friends. My blog has been reposted by dozens of prominent authors from Castalia House and others. Dragon Award Winner Nick Cole shared my story, and that by itself sold me more books in an hour than attending conventions for years ever did for me. There’s a lot of us. We’re not alone and we’re no longer afraid.

Here’s my advice:
  1. Be who you are, and go public when you’re wronged by SJWs. Every time one of us comes out of the closet, it makes it easier for the next dozen. This is how we will change the culture.
  2. Don’t be attached to being liked or respected by SJWs. They won’t change their minds no matter how nice you are.
  3. Reach out and find support groups. There’s millions of alt-right, libertarian, conservative, and Christian people out there. We’re the majority. Remember that.
  4. Never get tired of winning.
If you’re interested in my space opera, it's called Star Realms: Rescue Run.

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129 Comments:

Blogger Shimshon February 09, 2017 11:07 AM  

Did someone say "winning?" Moar winning!

Blogger Happy Housewife February 09, 2017 11:12 AM  

Never heard of him till now, but I bought the book. It's so great when conservatives finally reveal themselves so that I know who to support! Looking forward to reading it.

Blogger pyrrhus February 09, 2017 11:12 AM  

Great story! I'll check out your stuff!

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 09, 2017 11:14 AM  

I understand it is a serious issue but the last name caused to laugh.

Blogger pyrrhus February 09, 2017 11:15 AM  

In my experience, not only are SJWs never loyal, those who are disloyal are usually SJWs...

Blogger dc.sunsets February 09, 2017 11:16 AM  

People invested in the Leftist cult are assholes. Who in his right mind wants to hang around with them?

As soon as I grew up enough to realize they were my inferiors on every level, jettisoning them was easy (except for the mischievous urge to needle their little Delusion Bubbles, a guilty pleasure.)

Blogger Chris Mata February 09, 2017 11:20 AM  

Star Realms as in related to the deckbuilding game?

Anonymous old man in a villa February 09, 2017 11:23 AM  

"...this act done to a Hispanic author casts an even darker shadow."

No, it doesn't.

You've taken their bait and you want our sympathy, you can't have both.

Blogger David The Good February 09, 2017 11:25 AM  

Bought the book. Keep fighting. Keep writing.

Blogger Rick T February 09, 2017 11:25 AM  

Purchased! Screw the SJWs, let them die in their own bile and hatred.

Anonymous Felixavier February 09, 2017 11:27 AM  

Thank you for sharing your story, John. I've played and enjoyed the Star Realms deckbuilding game, so I will definitely give your book a purchase!

Anonymous Holmwood February 09, 2017 11:33 AM  

@7 Apparently it's a tie in to the deck building game. I hate most tie-ins, Alan Dean Foster was ok, and Timothy Zahn was great, but it's hard to think of another exceptional one. Maybe Forstechen's Wing Commander novel?

Nevertheless I bought it without hesitation after reading his story.

So brave. In 2017 a hispanic man comes out of the conservative closet to be treated like this. I can't even.

Blogger The Rev February 09, 2017 11:50 AM  

Preach.

Anonymous BBGKB February 09, 2017 11:51 AM  

"...this act done to a Hispanic author casts an even darker shadow."

"World to end tomorrow, non Asian minorities affected most"

Anonymous aviendha February 09, 2017 11:54 AM  

Jon, get an ISBN, and a hardcover print on demand, and I'd order it. Takes a lot of courage to stand on your convictions when your entire career is at stake. Or do a kickstarter hardcover, I'd support it. Congrats.

Blogger tz February 09, 2017 11:54 AM  

Determine how fragile or anti-fragile your situation is and the threat from SJWs - is your employer being converged?

Then get anti-fragile as much as possible. Find new employment in a new place (Salt Lake city is becoming a tech center).

Until then, realize the SJWs are trying to trap you. At work don't talk politics, because if you say something innocuous, you will be charged with harassment by proxy.

SJWs are conformist inquisitors, hence the constant requirement you virtue signal. Rejecting Trump isn't talk, it is liturgy, a ritual.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT February 09, 2017 11:55 AM  

His story is an illustration of the falsity of the illusion to which many "nice conservatives" are still subject, those who don't realize that SJWs will judge them by the identity of their politics, not the content of their character or the perfection of their etiquette.

...and...

If someone doesn’t share any core values with you, they will leave you in the dust. It’s only a matter of time.

That is because content of character is not a core value of the left or of the world in general. And that core value is an absolute prerequisite before you can be a 'nice conservative' towards another human being.

It is white Christians who are most likely to judge character and not identity. White Christians who tried to build a meritocracy. White Christians who wish that 'none would perish' and that everyone would have a chance at a good life. White Christians who stood for rule of law, fair and impartial judgement, free speech, etc, etc, etc. And white Christians who shed blood and treasure to try and rid the world of slavery.

Y.T. Christian

And among white Christians it was always the men who pushed the hardest.

And who has the world turned on? Those racist, misogynist, evil white western Christian men...who tried to build a society where race and sex did not matter, only good works. Where everyone was free to choose their creed in peace.

To hell with them. We can't reject them because they rejected us and our way of life first. They want the goods and the gibs but not the laws or civility required to produce them.

They can leave. We'll keep people of good faith though they may not be white. And they can take the white traitors among us in exchange. See how long the liberal left can survive in Mexico or sub-Saharan Africa where they can taste identity politics in all of its glory.

Bastards every one of them.

Blogger Austin Ballast February 09, 2017 11:59 AM  

Is that book tied to the card game of the same name? The logo looks identical.

Blogger Austin Ballast February 09, 2017 12:01 PM  

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/147020/star-realms

Blogger slarrow February 09, 2017 12:06 PM  

I also bought the book. It's free on Kindle Unlimited, and it's only $2.99 otherwise. As I said on his post: if you can read this post, you can one-click this bad boy.

Anonymous instasetting February 09, 2017 12:08 PM  

Well done, sir. You probably already know about it, but According to Hoyt's Sarah Hoyt talks frequently about her similar circumstances, and helps out authors.

Blogger Michael Neal February 09, 2017 12:25 PM  

In the film making community I played the same game for years as well, shutting up and playing nice conservative. I started speaking up after tons of anti-white guy posts and just snapped and went to fully proud and public Trump supporter. Lost tons of friends and associates but it's been worth it.

Check out the new option I deal I made with Castalia House Author Rolf Nelson and his screenplay "The Stars Came Back." There are actually people in the filmmaking community here working behind the scenes telling people not to work with me or this project because we're racist, some of them used to be friends. Bring it on bitches!


http://www.tscbmovie.com/

Blogger pyrrhus February 09, 2017 12:27 PM  

Zman on the coming War to the Knife....http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=9564

Blogger Ivaneus February 09, 2017 12:31 PM  

@12 I would throw Michael Stackpole and Aaron Allston on that list. The X-Wing series was great and Stackpole also wrote the bulk of good BattleTech novels.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2017 12:32 PM  

Hey man I'm tweeting and gabbing about it. I'm hoping the latinos for Trump pick it up and start talking about it. Those guys have been nazis and white supremacist since Trump which I find highly amusing.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 09, 2017 12:34 PM  

Got it on Kindle

Blogger Gaiseric February 09, 2017 12:36 PM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:I understand it is a serious issue but the last name caused to laugh.
I know, right? Jon of the Rice. Still... great story. And I'll buy a space opera by a conservative just on principle.
tz wrote:Then get anti-fragile as much as possible. Find new employment in a new place (Salt Lake city is becoming a tech center).
Corporate SLC is probably just as converged as anywhere else. Plus, SLC is not anywhere nearly as "red" as the rest of Utah. It's all the rural Utah ranchers and small towners who are so conservative.

And even then, as we saw last year, they tend to be much more nice guy cuckservative rather than America First conservative. They're a long way away from being woke, by and large.

Blogger Quilp February 09, 2017 12:40 PM  

This is when I got from his blog that was liked: He is still clinging to unrealistic hopes of being able to make nice with these people:

" and we can all find commonality together pretty easily like we did in years past, and leave grievances behind. We can work together to create smiling loyal friends..."

Thats never going to happen. Scrape em off and move on Jon

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 12:41 PM  

Hi Guys, Jon here! I've been hiding here as Smile Of The Shadow for months but I'm not scared to be anon anymore. If someone doesn't like me because I like Vox's awesome epic fantasy series, they can stuff it.

A few comments to posters:
1. Yup, it's hilarious. I'm hispanic and they are racist AF for assuming that because of that I would go along with their politics.
2. Yes, Deck Building Game Tie-In. If anyone's played that game it has very little flavor though. Other than some naming conventions and just base structures of how the Empires are, I had complete freedom and tried to write this as accessible as possible. People have likened it to Rogue One but with actual characters who have actual feelings and aren't distilled by a lousy board room. If you play the game, you'll love the easter eggs in there. If not, no biggie.
3. Person with the aviendha username, props. Big Robert Jordan fan.
4. Thank you everyone for your support it's so huge. And thank you even bigger to Vox. This is real friendship and loyalty and know I'll have your guys back if you ever need it too. Christ called us to take care of our own house and this is that in action. I will do all I can to pay that forward, though my platform is still very small.

And feel free to hit me up on various social media. I'm friendly and love people. Cheers!

Blogger SouthRon February 09, 2017 12:42 PM  

$3 to support someone that's come out and willing to hit back? That's a no-brainer.

Done!

Blogger S1AL February 09, 2017 12:56 PM  

"Big Robert Jordan fan."

There are some things one simply does not say at VP. Now we're all going to get to enjoy 50 comments about what an awful protagonist Rand is.

Blogger Nick S February 09, 2017 12:59 PM  

Kindle Unlimited sure comes in handy sometimes.

Per #3 on your advice list, Jon: If they're concerned with being liked, they probably are an SJW.

Blogger szopen February 09, 2017 1:02 PM  

I am not fully-ready to this, I think. I still have few liberal friends on FB from the old times, who I really like and sometimes I hesitate before posting something, in order not to hurt their feelings. But I stopped to care about most of the others, and while in the past I was trying to talk nice to them, right now I usually just shout "shut the f* up, you moron". Feels much better than trying to talk reason while they scream at you, anyway.

Blogger HanSolo February 09, 2017 1:05 PM  

SJWs have no loyalty to people but they do have loyalty to their fanatical cause.

Anonymous Avalanche February 09, 2017 1:15 PM  

@32 "But I stopped to care about most of the others, and while in the past I was trying to talk nice to them, right now I usually just shout "shut the f* up, you moron"."

I'm often tempted to do that, but as back when I'd be arguing (nicely) with an idiot/insanely femininst girl on my advice list; I'm NOT 'talking to' the MPAI I'm arguing with; I'm laying a trail for the listeners and lurkers to come over the dark side! By my calm and repeated statements of facts and disassembly of her idiocies(dialectic is fer shure my native tongue: sigh), I'm a) driving my arguer even crazier (making an example) and b) showing the peanut gallery both my calm(-ish) demeanor and boatloads of facts and info.

And yeah, on occasion, I finally run out of patience and ban the idiot. But usually then the lurkers and I discuss the lessons I was laying out. I've convinced many and pulled them over that way! Since they're not in the cross-hairs, they can 'listen' and think.

(Oh. Was that solipsistic? Trying to provide an example of who our actual audience is!)

Blogger Beau February 09, 2017 1:15 PM  

Just purchased a copy.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2017 1:18 PM  

Welcome to freedom bro.

Blogger VD February 09, 2017 1:19 PM  

I like Vox's awesome epic fantasy series

Wow, thanks....

Big Robert Jordan fan.

Erm, ah, uh oh.

Blogger Gaiseric February 09, 2017 1:26 PM  

Jon D. wrote:Person with the aviendha username, props. Big Robert Jordan fan.
We'll strive not to judge you too harshly based on that. :)

Are you on Gab?

Blogger VFM #7634 February 09, 2017 1:26 PM  

@38 Dan

SJWs always lie. And NeverTrumpers are another kind of SJW. Trump thinks they're lying; he's already accused Blumenthal of it.

Blogger GracieLou February 09, 2017 1:27 PM  

Psalm 120

“Deliver me, O Lord, from lying lips, from a deceitful tongue.”

Too long have I lived among those who hate peace.

I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.

Blogger Dave February 09, 2017 1:27 PM  

@Jon D.

Kudos to you for standing up for yourself and speaking out. Feels good, amirite?

Is/was your editor/assistant a freelancer? I would rather not do business with this type of publisher but in this case I will make an exception.

I wish you much success.

Anonymous aviendha February 09, 2017 1:35 PM  

darnit, now i had to buy a paperback. First new paperback in 25 years...
If you have been lurking and are brave enough to face these rogues as an admitted Jordan fan I have to support you.
Now, get some hardbound action in the future. Good luck.

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 1:35 PM  

Psh. @VD I already told you both of those things. ;) And I won't apologize to you for liking Jordan either!

Anonymous WaterBoy February 09, 2017 1:41 PM  

Holmwood @12: " I hate most tie-ins, Alan Dean Foster was ok, and Timothy Zahn was great, but it's hard to think of another exceptional one."

I wouldn't necessarily qualify it as exceptional, but the first MtG tie-in novel, Arena, was still pretty darn good, especially at conveying the sense of the game in a storybook setting. It was also written by Forstchen, who you noted as the Wing Commander tie-in author.

Blogger Brian Niemeier February 09, 2017 1:42 PM  

Welcome to the Dark Side, Jon.

You've taken your first steps into a larger world.

Blogger lowercaseb February 09, 2017 1:42 PM  

Jon:

You gained a new reader today and if you have a Patreon a new donor as well. I will poke at your site to get the info. Thank you for writing this and thank you for standing up.

-b

Blogger synp February 09, 2017 1:44 PM  

Jon,

Jon D. wrote:1. Yup, it's hilarious. I'm hispanic and they are racist AF for assuming that because of that I would go along with their politics.

Don't you see? You are worse to them than any "racist old white guy who rants about them colored folks and homosexuals". They might even tolerate a few of those for comedic value if nothing else. They fit the narrative. Archie Bunker was a character in a comedy made by leftists.

You, on the other hand, are a traitor to the cause. You belong to the victim minority and yet you fail to appreciate all that SJWs have done for you. You fail to appreciate the platform you were given to pour out your heart about how you and your kind are oppressed. This is why you or Milo or Ben Carson are hated more than racist white dudes.

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) February 09, 2017 1:50 PM  

43. Jon D. February 09, 2017 1:35 PM
And I won't apologize to you for liking Jordan either!



that's okay, we still give Vox shit over his homo shoes and gay umbrella drinks.

"Don't be more homo than BigGaySteve" isn't a guideline.

it's an aspiration.

Blogger Mocheirge February 09, 2017 1:53 PM  

Jon D. wrote:Psh. @VD I already told you both of those things. ;) And I won't apologize to you for liking Jordan either!

Repentance is an important step following confession. I'll pray for God to soften your heart.

P.S. Blob best faction.

Blogger lowercaseb February 09, 2017 1:54 PM  

Also...being a fellow SF Bay Area guy...doesn't feel good to come out of the conservative closet? In that town, wearing your redcap is the real way to let your freak flag fly.

Blogger Steffen February 09, 2017 2:04 PM  

Good on standing up for yourself, Jon.

I glanced at the positive Amazon reviews and made my purchase.

Blogger S1AL February 09, 2017 2:05 PM  

@Jon D. - Will there be more stories in the Star Realms universe? I want to know where the damn space turtles come from.

Anonymous James Parliament February 09, 2017 2:18 PM  

Bought it. Welcome Jon.

Blogger Random February 09, 2017 2:22 PM  

@Mocheirge

Machine Cult will purge your slimy blob ickiness.

Great game, just purchased the book.

Blogger John Williams February 09, 2017 2:29 PM  

Welcome to the Alt Right & congratulations on standing up to SJW bullies, it's the best way to seal their fate. Just bought your book on Amazon & look forward to reading it.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE February 09, 2017 2:29 PM  

The cat is out of the bag, and the preference cascade just keeps gaining steam. Interesting how just 1.5 years ago how hopeless everything seemed for the West. Then, Brexit. Then Trump. Now we know we have the numbers and are on the offensive.

Blogger Silly But True February 09, 2017 2:30 PM  

The next Castalia House publication should be "The Collected Comments by Vox Day About Rand al'Thor."

"The one way I might be able to force myself to read SFWA Grand Master's epic torture-rape extravaganza, Hogg, is if I did a word replacement in Sigil that substituted 'Rand al'Thor' for all the little kiddies that Delany fantasizes about raping, torturing, and killing in various excruciating ways. That's how much I hate the whiny little bastard."

It would surely be a bestselling work of epic non-fiction fantasy.

Blogger WarKicker February 09, 2017 2:34 PM  

Hang in there Jon. Bought the book.

Anonymous Kel February 09, 2017 2:47 PM  

"Until then, realize the SJWs are trying to trap you. At work don't talk politics, because if you say something innocuous, you will be charged with harassment by proxy.

SJWs are conformist inquisitors, hence the constant requirement you virtue signal. Rejecting Trump isn't talk, it is liturgy, a ritual."


I don't think you realize how messy the Civil War 2 will be. Anti-fragile is impossible. There is no territory that is safe.

Civil War 2 will not involve territories or invading lands, like CW1 did. It will be like Serbia, burning your neighbors houses and driving them away because they are SJWs. And the SJWs will do the same to you. They're doing it already by firing people and harassing people who disagree with them across the country. Once violent means are accepted, there is no amount of anti-fragility that will protect you short of living in a community that offers constant vigilance.

Frankly, that is the most disturbing thing. How do we fight when the left is already leaps and bounds ahead of us? More here:

Reality Isn’t Nice. It’s a 2×4 to the Teeth.

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 2:48 PM  

Thanks everyone again, you're really amazing. There is SJW nonsense coming down from the publisher shortly. I will be blogging about it as I have real info. They already have raised the price on the book to try to curb sales as soon as they saw you guys were picking it up: from $2.99 to $4.99.

Dirty tactics.

@50. Feels good, man, as the great Pepe prophet of kek once said. You guys are really the best.

I also just emailed Vox. The book I'm working on now I'm going to submit to Castalia when done. I'm really proud of it and think it'll blow Rescue Run out of the water!

Blogger Lovekraft February 09, 2017 2:52 PM  

From article: "I received a nasty letter from my editor’s assistant about how intolerant and inflexible I was, telling me that I was not likely to be invited to be published again."

This is what a lot of us has had to encounter, either HR, supervisors etc who I used to call 'Little Napoleons' (don't know why, it just stuck). Contributed to my shift to the alt-right because it was usually a spindly little weasel doing the discipline. Wouldn't know what honor and reputation means to someone like me.

I know he got shafted but it's too common to be frustrated about. Only when the workplace is free of this bias will such heavy-handedness have consequences.

Made him stronger from what I get from the article.

Blogger Jed Mask February 09, 2017 2:54 PM  

Lol "SJWs" are "anti-social", "anti-justice" and "anti-warrior".

They are their own worst enemy lol Smh... Sad really.

Blogger Lovekraft February 09, 2017 2:57 PM  

Another impression from the article is that this guy reminds me of certain people at work. Really nice guys you want to rally around.

Not so much for guys like me who go at things like clearing bush. Most allies don't want to be caught up in the whirlwind.

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 2:58 PM  

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1872176398 :D I am having too much fun today. This should be illegal!

Blogger Dave February 09, 2017 3:01 PM  

Glad I got in at $2.99 what a bunch of twats.

Suggest you get your Amazon Author Page up to speed and you may want to check into an Infogalactic page.

Anonymous Kel February 09, 2017 3:05 PM  

Vox,

Isn't your advice predicated on the assumption that the culture can be changed and that violence by the left is not inevitable?

What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

Have you seen this: Skull-Stomping Sacred Cows: Reality Isn’t Nice. It’s a 2×4 to the Teeth.

Blogger SirHamster February 09, 2017 3:13 PM  

Jon D. wrote:They already have raised the price on the book to try to curb sales as soon as they saw you guys were picking it up: from $2.99 to $4.99.

Bought it anyways.


The next year, I’d gained prominence as the writer of a web comic which had garnered some praise and a lot of web traffic.

Big fan of web comics. Which one?

Blogger Chris Jackson February 09, 2017 3:21 PM  

My wife read his post and said "I'm not much into SciFi, but now I want to read his books."

Blogger Jack Ward February 09, 2017 3:22 PM  

Purchased the book. Just because...might even be good. Hope so. This man deserves the support.

Anonymous Bastard Sysop February 09, 2017 3:22 PM  

I work in the Seattle metro, so a majority of my co-workers and friends are lefty leaning and wholly unaware of their double standards and bigoted nature. A few, rare few, reached out to let me know that I'm one of the only "out" conservatives. They cant speak about their views, because they would lose their jobs and cause turmoil in their personal relationships.

Being a white male christian conservative seems to be the enemy of the entire left, and yet,
I dont give a fuck. Downvote my reddit posts, unfriend me in facebook, call me a troll on irc. As if there isn't half the nation who think the same, and voted Trump into office.

I just wish the quiet right who thinks this SJW issues are not a concern would wake up, its invading everything, and we need to fight it, as the cancer it is. We need a new McCarthy to clean out the communists again.

Blogger Jack Ward February 09, 2017 3:34 PM  

4.99. Not to worry. Thats what I just paid. We, here, buy books all the time at that price. Good luck with signing on with Castalia. Just beware, their standards are high and don't take offense. Probably, if rejected, there will be ample advice from Vox and others on what to do next time. That advice would be priceless and should be given deep consideration.

Blogger Matthew McDaniel February 09, 2017 3:39 PM  

Come ye out from among them and be ye separate. Touch not the unclean thing and I will receive you.

Anonymous Leon February 09, 2017 3:39 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARgdBb2Go0w&index=6&list=FLxyJ7obUG0zYEWzUwOp5Elw

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 09, 2017 3:47 PM  

Good piece of rhetoric to learn, " I don't care."

Blogger VD February 09, 2017 3:57 PM  

Isn't your advice predicated on the assumption that the culture can be changed and that violence by the left is not inevitable?

No.

Blogger Gaiseric February 09, 2017 4:02 PM  

Bastard Sysop wrote:I work in the Seattle metro, so a majority of my co-workers and friends are lefty leaning and wholly unaware of their double standards and bigoted nature. A few, rare few, reached out to let me know that I'm one of the only "out" conservatives. They cant speak about their views, because they would lose their jobs and cause turmoil in their personal relationships.

I think there's more going on then we realize, sometimes. Just recently, after more than a year of turning my facebook feed into basically a right-wing propaganda wall (in the original semantic sense, before it became a dirty word). I don't get a lot of likes. I don't get a lot of discussion or comments, and when I do, sometimes it's ankle-biters. I did it anyway, because I enjoy having the platform, but I did it for myself, not really thinking that anyone was paying attention to me. My wife and kids frequently joke that I've probably only got three people who haven't blocked me by now. I told them I don't care if everyone blocks me and I'm talking to myself; I'll do it anyway.

But just in the last few weeks, I've had several people come up to me and tell me privately that they really appreciate my posts; that they appreciate knowing that they're not alone when they may be in environments where they themselves aren't comfortable or brave enough—or whatever the case may be—to openly say these things themselves.

I'm blessed (or maybe cursed; not sure yet) with an attitude that is probably borderline sociopathic to the degree to which I don't care what people think about me. It's clearly not exactly normal, no matter how much sense it makes to me. But because I can do that, I can be a small beacon to others that don't have that ability, a rallying point around which they can gather.

I wonder; if I've had three people in the last few weeks tell me that privately (or tell my wife, in some cases) I wonder how many people don't tell me but think the same thing.

Blogger Happy LP9 February 09, 2017 4:05 PM  

SJW are a danger to any org and any family.

When its said there is no logic that is an understatement in that mixing SJW narratives with feminism equates to violence; white on white violence punching out white girls - being blackballed is nothing but a battle scar or a badge of honor.

ALTRighty Then!

Last night I met with several Francisan Uni students, again none will defend or debate or dicuss the safe space culture they talked of the rape culture.

I asked them what they thought of (NOT FELT) about the womens march bitching about their rights while opening their legs to Islam or Jizlam while its that group that will enslave them first. I asked them who'd they'd bed; some non white islamophile or a white guy. Open borders dont work and they countered that with borders are imaginary lines. To which anyone would say, 'at your gated college, sweetheart.'

They could not shut me down and left in tears, all I did was ask a few very calm disarming questions.

These kids need the Milo Treatment Right Now.

We are at the point where we all speak English but can no longer communicate, this is Babylon on fire and yet we were granted a reprieve with POTUS Trump.

Defund the SJW's!

Blogger Happy LP9 February 09, 2017 4:08 PM  

There is no such damned thing as the rape culture in a patriarchy where the men care for and give a damn about their women, I told those kids (sweet RCC daily mass attendees kidlets), they are bedding the very enemy that defines the rape culture.

Franciscan Uni is an international Catholic private college that harbors the worst of the left wring/wing in Jefferson county OH.

Anonymous Icicle February 09, 2017 4:10 PM  

What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

People kill them.

Blogger SirHamster February 09, 2017 4:20 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:But just in the last few weeks, I've had several people come up to me and tell me privately that they really appreciate my posts; that they appreciate knowing that they're not alone when they may be in environments where they themselves aren't comfortable or brave enough—or whatever the case may be—to openly say these things themselves.

I get practically 0 likes and responses in all my FB posting, but I recently received a private message thanking me for being the only non-leftist friend on his feed.

Have also had a pastor mention he appreciates the posts, though he was concerned about too much edge. Ironically, that wasn't the Pizzagate link, but the Moore rant on why Trump would win (swearing).

Blogger Resident Moron™ February 09, 2017 4:24 PM  

Just bought it.

Don't let the bastards grind you down, Jon. As the great (if a bit longwinded) Stephen Donaldson wrote;

There is yet love in the world.

Anonymous BluePony February 09, 2017 4:54 PM  

"We need a new McCarthy to clean out the communists again."

Curious. I see *them* as the neo-McCarthy force, trying to clean out the double minus wrong thinkers. We're the Resistance against the Nu-Fascists.

Blogger Sagramore February 09, 2017 4:55 PM  

Don’t be attached to being liked or respected by SJWs.

Whores are never really your friends. And all SJWs are whores, many of them literally too. We're not Christ.

Blogger Tiago Paolini February 09, 2017 4:56 PM  

Jon D. wrote:Thanks everyone again, you're really amazing. There is SJW nonsense coming down from the publisher shortly. I will be blogging about it as I have real info. They already have raised the price on the book to try to curb sales as soon as they saw you guys were picking it up: from $2.99 to $4.99.

Dirty tactics.


No worries. It also means a bigger revenue share for you, I presume. If that was done with the intent of harming you, it has helped you instead. Logic isn't the strong point of SJWs anyways.

Blogger Sagramore February 09, 2017 5:00 PM  

I used to be on a bar trivia team with some of the SJWs that hassled Greg Elliott. Alcohol is always a factor, especially when dealing with an annoying and hateful CBC employee.

Blogger Redpill Angel February 09, 2017 5:02 PM  

Jon, bought your book just now. This same thing happened to a dear fannish friend who dared invite a Castalia House author (Mr. Wright) to a convention. The con was immediately blackballed by people he had thought were lifelong friends, and he was left thousands in debt and very sad. He had invited me as a fan guest, and at the time I had never heard of the alt-right or Vox. I still struggle with "coming out" but it's gonna happen. I'm an artist and I will lost every professional friend I have, plus I work at a state university that is totally converging fast. Not sure anymore why I should care, though.

Blogger IreneAthena February 09, 2017 5:10 PM  

"Kel" at 2:40-ish and again at 3:05-- what do people think? He's telling us that warrior play-acting is worse than worthless under the current volatile conditions, namely increasing, blood-letting violence from the nothing-left-to-losers on the hard left against the Right.

If your Crusade Part Deux words are nothing but words, wordsmiths, don't waste your talent pretending you are something you are not. True warriors and the best of Law Enforcement have a quality you can't get at the gym or the range, and that is GUTS not only to face but pursue those with murderous intent.

Fortunately the left is not a monolith. The Kels among you have the worst of the worst to contend with, but those of you more skilled in the persuasive arts have an opportunity to use your gifts to re-establish law and order. Now that the football hooliganistic atmosphere of the campaign and election is over, many among the Leftist churchfolk are coming to their senses and realizing that Hitlerizing their Trumpian friends and neighbors is not a good long-term strategy for "being the change they want to see in the world." Not to mention the fact that these folks don't want full on bloody civil war any more than most of you do.

There's a movement on-- I've heard it called "Meet at the Well" -- encouraging Christians to invite a Trump supporter for coffee, "because we are forgetting that many of them are reasonable people we can find common ground with."

Be ready for them. I hope Jesus will be drinking a lot of coffee this winter. psalm 120.

Anonymous Vile Faceless Jester February 09, 2017 5:11 PM  

"Curious. I see *them* as the neo-McCarthy force, trying to clean out the double minus wrong thinkers. We're the Resistance against the Nu-Fascists."

Who taught us the history of McCarthy?

SJWs.

What is SJW rule #1?

Anonymous Icicle February 09, 2017 5:16 PM  

There's a movement on-- I've heard it called "Meet at the Well" -- encouraging Christians to invite a Trump supporter for coffee, "because we are forgetting that many of them are reasonable people we can find common ground with."

"Come closer so I can slap you."

Anonymous Vin February 09, 2017 5:18 PM  

Forgive the OT but the Alt Right is winning. From the UK, articulate AR kids. Surprised they're airing this. Despite the title it's good

https://www.channel4.com/news/fake-news-and-the-alt-right

Blogger Silly But True February 09, 2017 5:24 PM  

Jeez, Armalite is missing out on "AR" branding opportunities.

Anonymous BBGKB February 09, 2017 5:28 PM  

What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

call them racists.

Blogger Mocheirge February 09, 2017 5:35 PM  

BBGKB wrote:What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

call them racists.


no no no... call them the REAL racists!

Blogger bob kek mando ( Death To The Boor-geois, Keks To The Lol-etariat ) February 09, 2017 5:38 PM  

83. BluePony February 09, 2017 4:54 PM
Curious. I see *them* as the neo-McCarthy force, trying to clean out the double minus wrong thinkers.



here's the problem with that conceptualization:
since the Venona papers came out, McCarthy has been proven correct in almost every accusation and assertion he made.

the high echelons of the US government WERE infiltrated by KGB operatives and the actions being taken by them and the Cultural operatives WERE treasonous in nature.

you, by accepting the characterization of McCarthy by the Left, would treat Horatius as a traitor to "Roman customs" for not permitting the enemy to pass on the bridge.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 09, 2017 5:50 PM  

Bought it

Blogger SirHamster February 09, 2017 5:50 PM  

IreneAthena wrote:There's a movement on-- I've heard it called "Meet at the Well" -- encouraging Christians to invite a Trump supporter for coffee, "because we are forgetting that many of them are reasonable people we can find common ground with."

How generous of them to treat Trump supporting Christians as outsider Samaritans.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 09, 2017 5:58 PM  

What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

If you are going to get a new AR, now is the time. The market has crashed since Obama left.

Turns out the SJW really, were only talking about buying guns to fight off the Red Cap hordes.

The gun shop owners in my neighborhood are fire selling them. In a month the only ARs on the racks are going to be high end competition models.

Anonymous Icicle February 09, 2017 5:59 PM  

Common ground? We win, they lose. That's reasonable.

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 6:33 PM  

@53. I'd like to write more if they'll let me. Will the publisher? Dunno. Will the people who own Star Realms? Gonna have to cross both those bridges. I am still on good terms with the game designer, but the board game industry is as converged as science fiction, so we'll have to see.

@68. Was Flying Sparks. Site got hacked years ago and I didn't have the tech knowhow on how to get it back up. On top of that, didn't want to spend more money on art/web design. Another dream. So many I'm waiting on. If you read it back then, thanks!

More thanks to all of you. I'm now a top #1000 Amazon selling author, peaked so far at #12 in space opera and it's almost entirely due to Vox and Castalia House authors.

Publisher says announcement regarding me tomorrow.

Someone mentioned updating Amazon author page. I never even made the one that's up there. Anyone know how to do that?

Anonymous c matt February 09, 2017 6:37 PM  

Why don't you equally out the traitorous SJWs who were allegedly your friends - it is nice to know who will stab you in the back.

Blogger SirHamster February 09, 2017 7:08 PM  

Jon D. wrote:@68. Was Flying Sparks. Site got hacked years ago and I didn't have the tech knowhow on how to get it back up. On top of that, didn't want to spend more money on art/web design. Another dream. So many I'm waiting on. If you read it back then, thanks!

I have not read it, but the Wayback machine looks promising for binging the archive.

Art's solid, premise is cute.

Blogger SteelPalm February 09, 2017 7:10 PM  

Excellent story, Jon, and I will do my best to support you, too.

Although being a fellow Bay Area resident, you really should have known better. :)

The SJWs around here let the mask drop at a moment's notice.

Nevertheless, glad you learned from this and have come out more anti-fragile than ever before.

Blogger Deplorable February 09, 2017 7:28 PM  

For those still on facebook, do you unfriend SJWs or use them as examples?
Do you unfriend leftist friends with the reasoning that they are simply SJWs-in-waiting?
Does it matter to you if they are coworkers? Do you even friend coworkers?

Facebook has always been a weird mix for me, and surely for others. Friends, coworkers, former coworkers, some acquaintances...all in one space.
It would make sense to divide them between networks, like linkedin. It could also make sense to throw the whole thing in the trash.

Blogger SteelPalm February 09, 2017 7:34 PM  

@104

I'll field this, since I was in the exact same situation a year ago.

1. Unfriend every single SJW, yes. Make sure they can't see any posts you don't want them to, either.

2. Depends on what type of "leftist" we are talking about. Are they fine with you being a supporter of the God Emperor?

3. Friending SJW co-workers is a horrible idea. If you have done so, then yes, get rid of them as soon as possible. Hell, block them.

It could also make sense to throw the whole thing in the trash.

Also a very sensible idea. You won't miss it nearly as much as you think.

Blogger callingcrow February 09, 2017 8:00 PM  

I have to take issue with your title: 'SJWs have no loyalty.' Actually, they do. They are loyal to those in the hive-mind. Once they discovered you were an interloper, they had to kill you (metaphorically). Well, good for you, guy! You go! A thought. Yes, there are a lot of people... published... people, who are hiding their true feelings. They don't want to incur the wrath of the hive. But there are, I'm sure, ten times as many who will never be published professionally, good writers, with good works, because they'll never get through the SJW gauntlets at the publishing houses. I'm a writer, published by NYC back in the day, lately having to self-publish because of my world view. I'm okay with it. I'd rather say what I believe, than sell a million books. I really mean that. Writing is every bit as guarded and controlled as it ever was in the Soviet Union. BTW, my name is Paul Clayton, and my latest novel is: Van Ripplewink: You Can't Go Home Again. All you SJWs that read this, go ahead and boycott my book. I only sell about one copy a month, so you can't hurt me. Oh, and I despise you all. You are a bunch of cowardly bullies, and greedy. You'd sell, actually, many of you already have, your soul for a book contract. Look in the mirror at the base sellout you are.

SJWs want to shut me down and destroy my career, and they want to find you and do the same to you, if they haven’t already.

Blogger Deplorable February 09, 2017 8:33 PM  

@105

Thanks, SteelPalm.

1. I went the blocking route with a friend-of-a-friend's long time girlfriend. Revealed some bad blood there. Feels good, man.
2. Good question. In the absence of asking directly, I keep an eye for any blanket statements about the God-Emperor's loyal subjects. Or maybe persistent whining about his edicts, or cheering the obstacles of anti-American so-called judges? Hmm...
3. I didn't know the co-worker was SJW until after friending. Should've anticipated it happening eventually after enough coworkers, though. Now it's a question of blocking her and looking like it's personal, or casting out all coworkers. *That's* why I now recommend never friending coworkers in the first place. (Oh, did I say it might look personal? Why would that matter? Done.)

Blogger Student in Blue February 09, 2017 9:14 PM  

@106. callingcrow
I have to take issue with your title: 'SJWs have no loyalty.' Actually, they do. They are loyal to those in the hive-mind.

That's not even true. The SJWs will turn, and have turned, on each other many many times. They do it far more often than regular people do, too, because their loyalty is only to themselves, and sometimes not even then (cue rampant substance abuse).

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair February 09, 2017 9:15 PM  

Jon, good on you bro! Congrats on joining the dark side! We're here for ya!

"I don't think you realize how messy the Civil War 2 will be. Anti-fragile is impossible. There is no territory that is safe.

Civil War 2 will not involve territories or invading lands, like CW1 did. It will be like Serbia, burning your neighbors houses and driving them away because they are SJWs. And the SJWs will do the same to you. They're doing it already by firing people and harassing people who disagree with them across the country. Once violent means are accepted, there is no amount of anti-fragility that will protect you short of living in a community that offers constant vigilance.

Frankly, that is the most disturbing thing. How do we fight when the left is already leaps and bounds ahead of us? "

@60 Talked to a buddy who guards the SecState earlier today. Hmmm...most of the military/LE leans right as do most of the people in the medical profession. Farmers? check. Truckers that transport food and fuel? check? Rednecks who just want to shoot shit up? Check. If the Left is, God forbid, dumb enough to engage in a civil war, as I said to my buddy, it'll make the Rwandan genocide look like a joke. It'll be the quickest civil war in the history of mankind. We will pwn them so fast and hard it'll leave them with their heads spinning. He equated it to this scene in Fight Club.

"But just in the last few weeks, I've had several people come up to me and tell me privately that they really appreciate my posts; that they appreciate knowing that they're not alone when they may be in environments where they themselves aren't comfortable or brave enough—or whatever the case may be—to openly say these things themselves."

@77 WHOOP (bro)!

"Franciscan Uni is an international Catholic private college that harbors the worst of the left wring/wing in Jefferson county OH."

@79 As a Catholic I'm beyond sick and tired of all of our universities being converged. I'm sure any Christian is sick of the same happening as well. As long as people know it doesn't represent us...

"What are people going to do when the left decides to use AR-15s instead of riots or HR departments?

People kill them."

@80 Hmmm...we have a lot of current and former military around....

Blogger Connie Chastain February 09, 2017 9:30 PM  

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Blogger Connie Chastain February 09, 2017 9:33 PM  

Quote: "SJWs want to shut me down and destroy my career, and they want to find you and do the same to you, if they haven’t already."

And that's just an interim step of what they want. SJWs are leftists, socialists and what they ultimately want is to shut down and destroy the whole human race.

Paraphrased by Sobran's from Igor Shafarevich's The Socialist Phenomenon

"...socialism had endured throughout history, usually in the form of one or another Christian heresy. It gives expression to the gnostic urge to rebel — the rebellion of the educated against the constraints imposed by Creation and by God. In earlier periods, when of course the socialist label was not used, it could be identified by its insistent, unvarying emphasis on certain goals: the destruction of private property and of the traditional or 'nuclear' family; and above all, the dismemberment of traditional, or orthodox religion. Throughout history, the phenomenon has been obsessed with material equality, and with the eradication of individual and gender distinctions. It wars incessantly against the normal. A 'striving for self-destruction,' for nothingness, for the “death of mankind,” is the true goal of socialism. Instinctively, without stating it or even seeing it as the conscious goal, the socialist phenomenon seeks the death of the human race."

1. Destruction of private property
2. Destruction of the traditional family
3. Destruction of traditional (Christian) religion

It strives for self-destruction, for the death of mankind, for the death of the human race. That is socialism's goal....

Articles on "The Hive" -- a metaphor for socialism.
http://www.sobran.com/hive/hum.shtml

Blogger Connie Chastain February 09, 2017 9:36 PM  

I believe SJWs, socialists and leftists want to destroy the human race because we are the only segment of God's creation especially made by him in his image. And he loves us. They hate him, and so they relish the idea of destroying what he loves.

Blogger IreneAthena February 09, 2017 10:09 PM  

@97 @88 re:Meet at the Well How generous of them to treat Trump supporting Christians as outsider Samaritans.
That's the attitude you'd have good reason to expect; however, I've personally witnessed people gingerly dismounting their silly high horses. "The well" that the best-intentioned may have in mind is the one where Rachel and Jacob met. I have no doubt you'll have a sharp eye out for wily old Laban -- just don't miss the opportunities that may be coming your way.

Blogger Jon D. February 09, 2017 10:13 PM  

UPDATE: Irony of all Irony. I am outselling Baycon's Guest of Honor, the writer of the Expanse today. This as his TV show just returned to the air. I am currently #7 in Space Opera. He is Currently #10. You guys rock so much!!!

Blogger wreckage February 09, 2017 10:35 PM  

Bought it. I dunno if I count as alt-right, apart from my seething, black hate for the SJW blackballers, Christian-haters and goodthinkers.

FUCK.
THEM.

Blogger Harsh February 09, 2017 11:23 PM  

One more sale for Mr. Del Arroz! Just bought Star Realms.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable February 09, 2017 11:29 PM  

One mental model holds there are five moral spheres that exist at the level of instincts -- purity/disgust, authority, loyalty, fairness, and harm -- of which leftists only have the latter two. They're literally moral cripples, and it would be irrational to expect an intellectualized loyalty from people that lack the ingrained reflex.

Blogger Tex February 10, 2017 12:33 AM  

Way up there at 99, Icicle said...

"Common ground? We win, they lose. That's reasonable."

And for the most Jayne comment here, Icicle wins Teh Interwebs.

RESCUE RUN ordered. Let's hope sales light up the sky.

Tex
(ready to enjoy his first Space Opera of 2017)

Blogger szopen February 10, 2017 2:38 AM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:One mental model holds there are five moral spheres that exist at the level of instincts -- purity/disgust, authority, loyalty, fairness, and harm -- of which leftists only have the latter two. They're literally moral cripples, and it would be irrational to expect an intellectualized loyalty from people that lack the ingrained reflex.
Note that the model was proposed by a former leftist, who now considers himself centrist. He also does not say leftists do not have the last three spheres; only, that in conservatives, all the spehere are equally developed, while in leftists, those first three spheres are underdeveloped and not considered (at least, consciously) as part of morality.

Blogger wreckage February 10, 2017 2:47 AM  

They donated $1 per sale to the ACLU?

Who the fuck cares? Was this meant to hurt somehow? The publisher is a knob.

Blogger JC February 10, 2017 5:04 AM  

Welcome to your loyal but thoroughly deplorable fam!

Revere the God Emperor, Expel the SJWs.

OpenID brefaucheux February 10, 2017 12:02 PM  

I loved this post. It really confirms what I've been thinking about the publishing industry. So glad I went for self publishing. This leftist crowd would have driven me insane.
Vox, you inspired me a lot with my blog and my path as far as being more out in the open with where I stand on things. I appreciate what you do so much.

Blogger IreneAthena February 10, 2017 1:03 PM  

@99 @97 Icicle, there most certainly is common ground that already exists, but unfortunately it gets abandoned by alternating halves of the population whenever there's a changing of the guard at the WH. That ground is where citizens resist misguided (or just plain evil) foreign policy that makes large areas of the middle and near east unlivable -- producing the humanitarian AND security crisis of hordes of refugees.

The worst of the SJWs are fighting you on many fronts, while drones, under "God-Emporer" Trump's watch are devastating the same areas they did under Obama's. Those who profit from perpetual foreign military involvement are happy to fan the flames of the culture war domestically so unified resistance to their decades-old stranglehold is eroded.

You MUDT find and hold that common ground, not to be "nice," but to break the system that multiplies the misery and numbers of refugees in the first place.

Blogger SirHamster February 10, 2017 2:35 PM  

szopen wrote:SciVo de Plorable wrote:One mental model holds there are five moral spheres that exist at the level of instincts -- purity/disgust, authority, loyalty, fairness, and harm -- of which leftists only have the latter two. They're literally moral cripples, and it would be irrational to expect an intellectualized loyalty from people that lack the ingrained reflex.

Note that the model was proposed by a former leftist, who now considers himself centrist. He also does not say leftists do not have the last three spheres; only, that in conservatives, all the spehere are equally developed, while in leftists, those first three spheres are underdeveloped and not considered (at least, consciously) as part of morality.


I forget who to credit (Bloody Shovel?), but this analysis breaks down on closer examination - the SJWs speak about equality while supporting racism, and talk peace while punching "Nazis".

SJWs always lie. They lie about caring anything about equality or fairness.

In actuality, they have fanatical loyalty to their cause, and will cut loose every human tie that gets in the way. Parents destroy their very own children (abortion, transgenderism, etc) in pursuit of Social Justice.

SJWs express disgust for the good and beautiful and "cis", while promoting everything and anything ugly and dysfunctional. The blind and crippled African-Indian tranny is holy and pure while the white male must grovel at xir feet.

SJWs rely absolutely on authority - hence their unerring instinct to claim and subvert all institutions, which they then push to SJW convergence. What they "thought" yesterday is quickly replaced with today's fashion as decreed by Progress. Tolerance for Nazi Free Speech becomes Punch the Nazis to resist Hate Speech.

Anonymous K February 10, 2017 5:04 PM  

Just bought your book, Jon. Confusion to our enemies.

Blogger Thucydides February 10, 2017 8:05 PM  

Best wishes on your continuing success.

As the bumper sticker says: "Annoy a Liberal. Work Hard & be happy"

Blogger Joe Shmoe February 11, 2017 12:09 PM  

I want us to start an organization whose sole purpose is to reward people financially who come out as anti-SJW by supporting their products, like this guy's book. That doesn't mean that every person in it has to buy every book or see every movie or whatever, but it will be a way of people like this coming to us and openly being able to say their against SJWs without fear of being economically destroyed. What should we call this and who wants to join? Let's get this idea moving!

Blogger Joe Shmoe February 11, 2017 12:10 PM  

I meant "they're" against! Oops.

Blogger szopen February 11, 2017 3:29 PM  

@124 SirHamster I was under an impression that the "leftists" and "SJWs" are not synonyms.

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