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Friday, March 17, 2017

Not even pretending

The God-Emperor has unmasked the lawlessness of the Left's pretense at the Rule of Law, and in doing so, is building a strong case for acting outside of the Left-dominated deceptively titled "justice system":
His basis for doing so was an extraordinary interpretation of the right to travel and the freedom of association, which before, has only been associated with U.S. citizens,” Barnes continued. “Every court decision in the 200 years prior to this has said that people who are not citizens of the United States, who are not present within the United States, have no First Amendment constitutional rights. The Constitution doesn’t extend internationally to anybody, anywhere, anyplace, at any time. Instead, this judge said it did, as long as you had a university here who wanted to assert, quote-unquote, the foreigner’s rights, or you had some physical person here. In this case, it was one of the leading Muslim imams in Hawaii; he wants to bring over various family and friends from the Middle East.”

“The Hawaii judge’s decision says he has a First Amendment constitutional right to do so because he’s Muslim. It was one of the most extraordinary interpretations of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment ever given, which is that because these are Muslim countries that were banned where the issue of terror arises from that that meant they had a special right to access the country and visit the country,” he said.

“As long as there is somebody here that wants them here, no president can ever preclude them from coming here. He basically gave First Amendment rights to everybody around the world and gave special preferences to people who are Muslim under his interpretation of the First Amendment,” Barnes summarized.

“So it’s an extraordinarily broad order. Its legal doctrine has no limits. If you keep extending this, it means people from around the world have a special right to access the United States, visit the United States, emigrate to the United States, get visas to the United States. There wouldn’t be any limit, and the president would never be able to control our own borders. It would be up solely to the whim of a federal judge who effectively delegated it, in this case, to a Muslim imam in Hawaii,” he contended.

Barnes noted that the judge did not “cite any prior decision” that has ever established this astonishing new quirk of the Constitution.

“Just last year, the Supreme Court implicitly said the opposite, when they said your right to association does not include a right to bring foreigners into the United States, in the Din decision,” he pointed out. “Now, there were several concurrences, so the binding precedent of that has been left open, but he does not even reference or mention or discuss the decision. He doesn’t even mention the statute, the main statute that gives the president the right to ban any alien from the country, for any reason the president deems appropriate, for any temporary time period, that the president yesterday cited in his national speech. Like the prior Ninth Circuit decision, the Hawaii judge never mentions the decision at all.”

“So there’s no real legal precedent. He’s taking three or four different concepts that have been applied in completely different areas of law, that only ever have historically applied to U.S. citizens, and he’s magically adding it to foreigners and acting like that’s always been the case when it’s never been the case,” he said.
There is no way to pretend that what these courts are doing is in any way compatible with democracy, law, tradition, history, or even Western Civilization. What we are witnessing is a literal breakdown of civil society and a descent into structural lawlessness. This has been a long time in the making, but it is becoming increasingly impossible to even pretend that there is a coherent or meaningful legal structure of any kind in the United States.

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147 Comments:

Anonymous The Observer March 17, 2017 4:00 AM  

The ability to interpret any document is effectively the ability to rewrite any document.

So much for "muh Constitution".

Anonymous Cato the Elder March 17, 2017 4:10 AM  

This lunacy is going to force congress to write the courts out of the immigration business....congressman Louie Gohmert is writing up this legislation right now.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy March 17, 2017 4:13 AM  

Neil Gorsuch ruled against ‘sovereign immunity’ of government employees against civil suits for the crimes they had committed under color of law. (And fake conservatives said that wasn't a conservative thing for a judge to do.)

This openly lawless conduct by judges could give Trump an excuse to go farther and do away with ‘judicial immunity’, if he cracks down on the courts before someone takes extralegal measures against them. (And if the wrong American gets murdered by one of the people these treasonous judges let in, there is a very real chance that that will happen.)

Anonymous Looking Glass March 17, 2017 4:15 AM  

Are we at the point we can admit that Marbury vs Madison is what killed the Republic? Every time the Supremes f-up something, it can't be fixed easily. And they're almost wholly responsible for the Civil War. And 50 million children murdered.

They are usurpers and act like it. The logical consequences would, it appear, start to be happening soon. Even if it's taken a long while.

Blogger FUCK GOOGLE March 17, 2017 4:24 AM  

The Constitution has been dead a long time. Remember, the "Constitution" is what these judges supposedly draw their power to "interpret the law" from. So they just "interpret" whatever rules they personally/politically want, and POOF - everyone obeys them because "muh Constitution".

In reality, these judges are traitors. Most of the damaging bullshit that cannot be undone except by CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT comes straight from Judges because they get to make up their own Constitutional Amendments with their horrible fucktarded political decisions.

At this point, these judges need to be destroyed or they will be the cause of not only the first Civil War, but of the second as well. Forget immunity, forget obeying these traitors. There has to be consequences for completely treating your judgeship like it is Imperium and expecting the rest of the country to blindly adhere to it because "muh Constitution".

I'm not sure what action could actually dissuade the myriad leftist traitor judges not to pull this kind of seditious shit other than stringing a few up to lampposts, but if we get to that point I doubt it will before an actual civil war breaks out.

Blogger JACIII March 17, 2017 4:28 AM  

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Blogger JACIII March 17, 2017 4:29 AM  

It has long been legal precedent that any decision is incontestable so long as it sounds sufficiently convoluted to a layman. Twisted logic is evidence the legal system is working.

No doubt the left thinks it is being clever; It camped out in the executive for eight years worming weird shit into being like men in girls restrooms and "free" healthcare. Got booted them from that so they have moved their efforts to the judiciary. That they burn down their last protection from the consequences of their actions is not on their radar

Anonymous Eric tge Red March 17, 2017 4:30 AM  

If Trump asked the alt-right for advice about how to counteract this lawlessness from leftist black-robed dictators; what would the alt-right say?

Blogger Ceerilan March 17, 2017 4:31 AM  

This judge's actions also strengthen the argument to keep muslims out of the country, lest they obtain positions of power and use them for the betterment of their own religion.

Blogger Ron March 17, 2017 4:33 AM  

Fake Law

Anonymous Bz March 17, 2017 4:34 AM  

It would be abject incompetence if it wasn't plain obstructionism. Judge Derrick K. Watson is obviously not fit for duty and should be removed with haste. Perhaps he can set up practice in Syria forthwith.

Blogger Nathan Wright March 17, 2017 4:39 AM  

A new low, obviously. But as we know the Constitution has been made a mockery of, progressively, ever since the southern states were blocked from seceding. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was also done using some Talmudic sophistry to claim that the Constitution was ratified by "the people of the United States" and not by the several states.

Blogger Shimshon March 17, 2017 4:40 AM  

No way Trump takes this lying down. If the winning were a Saturn V rocket, I believe we are about to jettison the first stage.

Blogger Sillon Bono March 17, 2017 4:41 AM  

The ability to interpret any document is effectively the ability to reewrite any document.

So much for "muh Constitution".

Any document except muh koran... you may lose a head or two if you try.

Blogger Nathan Wright March 17, 2017 4:42 AM  

I should add, this decision can't even be dignified by calling it Talmudic, as there's hardly any attempt at justification. This is Idiocracy-level stuff.

Blogger Beau March 17, 2017 4:43 AM  

Woe to you, unrighteous judges, worthless ones. You who write opinions before testimony is given in court. You who trample the rule of law for personal favor. Even were you a signet ring on Justice's hand, may the Holy One tear you off and fling you into the outer darkness.

Anonymous Philipp March 17, 2017 4:46 AM  

And we have moved a step closer to the breakdown of the U.S. and civil war.

Blogger VD March 17, 2017 4:47 AM  

If Trump asked the alt-right for advice about how to counteract this lawlessness from leftist black-robed dictators; what would the alt-right say?

Ignore it, arrest the judge, and fire anyone who disobeys on the basis of the judge's order.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor March 17, 2017 4:53 AM  

@18 Trump can do all of that without any action from Congress, too.

He should also take this opportunity to propose to Congress the abolition of the existing federal judiciary (not including the Supreme Court) and the creation of new offices. Congress is responsible for creating the lower courts and should be able to abolish them as well. Keep the few good judges and dispense with the rest.

Blogger Buybuydandavis March 17, 2017 5:02 AM  

By the People: Rebuilding Liberty Without Permission
by Charles Murray

The book is good for detailing the major court cases in which the Left staged their judicial coup against the Constitution over the last century.

But in those cases, they at least pretended there were actual principles involved.

Increasingly, they're just completely making shit up.

Look! Gay marriage has been hiding in there all this time!

(His proposed counterattack is pretty stupid. Legal mutual defense organizations to try to sue the government into oblivion. But the legal history in the book is good.)

Blogger JACIII March 17, 2017 5:05 AM  

Nathan Wright wrote:I should add, this decision can't even be dignified by calling it Talmudic, as there's hardly any attempt at justification. This is Idiocracy-level stuff.

Yep. Looks suspiciously like an affirmative action harvard law professor wrote it.....

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor March 17, 2017 5:06 AM  

The right of return of 7.6 billion Fake Americans shall not be infringed.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 5:07 AM  

Didn't shock me that it was a judge in Hawaii. Seems Obama was down to his last chip. No one else wanted to touch it. Giving a foreigner that much exposure to how your government works will keep paying off until that cunt carks it.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 5:08 AM  

Which segues nicely into the foreign takeover of the United States & my new Trumpwave track, Rebellion. Feel the Super Male Vitality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG00i47ZiBg

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 5:12 AM  

Obama's Gov in Exile Council must be telling him, yeah keep holidaying, don't be in D.C., makes it look more plausible these guys are jumping at shadows.

Blogger Valtandor Nought March 17, 2017 5:16 AM  

I'm no expert in these matters, but it seems to me that Trump almost has to disregard this so-called court order. If he doesn't, even if he and his subordinates appeal, he might as well publicly announce that the federal judiciary, down to the least District Court judge, outranks him in terms of executive authority, and that from now on he will confine himself to making and proposing appointments to various civil service posts; those officials, once confirmed in office, will be expected to report to and take instructions from the judges.

On a related note: Time was, I understand, when the Americans knew that it was a bad idea for the King to act as a judge. How can they have forgotten that it is an equally bad idea for a judge to act as King, and for much the same reasons?

Anonymous Roger March 17, 2017 5:28 AM  

If Trump fails - if he is largely stymied, and seen to be so by his supporters...I won't say hot civil war will blow up, but a real cold civil war will be on, which could turn hot. 50% of the population will know that they have no political power. The armed and productive 50%.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr March 17, 2017 5:55 AM  

Trump is going to need to declare certain courts and states to be in rebellion. This opens up a wide variety of options. Including military ones.

Start looking out for the terms "fake courts", "fake judges", and "fake rulings".

Anonymous the management March 17, 2017 5:58 AM  

I hope Trump arrests these judges, and I don't care one iota whether it would be "constitutional". Eisenhower enforced a segregation ban with the 101st, Trump can enforce an immigration ban the same way.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 6:11 AM  

Don't forget that the treasonous cuck ed congress is perfectly willing to stab trump in the back and impeach him the first chance they get.
Trump needs to neutralize congresses ability to backstabbing him while he deals with the court.

Anonymous Alice De Goon March 17, 2017 6:19 AM  

Suspicious how nowadays 99 percent of a judge's decisions are in ideological lockstep with the party they support. You'd think they'd uphold an abortion ban or rule in favor of a Christian business once in awhile just to give the appearance of impartiality and fairness.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr March 17, 2017 6:22 AM  

I'll add that this rebellion of the judiciary has been brewing for 60 years, beginning with the lawless Warren Court. It's just gotten to the point of being open disregard for the law in favor of their prejudices.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 6:24 AM  

Looks like Trump will let this play out in the courts & win that way. Trump could ignore it, but there's probably better ways to ignore the judiciary down the road. These legalists... The John Wayne's of America upheld the law, faggy pricks out of Harvard acting like tough guys with degrees. What a world today is. Surely they don't think they have a chance, I mean the guy who inspires them never got a son from God & he wouldn't have let him play football anyway. Gay prick.

Anonymous JAG March 17, 2017 6:29 AM  

Shitlibs disgust me. Utterly disgust me.

This judge should be impeached, disbarred, legislated out of existence, recalled, arrested for attempting a coup, or whatever, but get rid of him.

A line has to be drawn at this point. This is a major shit test by the left to see how far they can go.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 6:36 AM  

It feels like a breaking point is rapidly approaching. The left ignores inconvenient laws, from immigration on down.
It's not much longer before the right starts to pick and choose what they follow as well.


Incase there was any question, we are well into the "cold" phase of the civil war and approaching the "hot" phase.



Trump has to be careful with the military the enlisted ranks and junior officers overwhelmingly support trump, BUT Obama essentially purged the senior officer ranks and replaced them with apparatchiks. That could rapidly turn into a cluster-fuck if trump tries to use the military without being fully confident the senior officers involved aren't compromised.

Anonymous Ironsides March 17, 2017 6:37 AM  

Shalt thou have company with the throne of iniquity, which frameth mischief by a law?

It's time for Trump to emulate Old Hickory's famous outburst: "By the Eternal! I'll smash them!"

Blogger Stilicho March 17, 2017 6:39 AM  

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Blogger Kona Commuter March 17, 2017 6:40 AM  

People like this judge are screwed if there is a civil war.

Blogger Lazarus March 17, 2017 6:49 AM  

What sanctions do judges face when using their office for partisan political purposes?

I rest my case.

Blogger Stilicho March 17, 2017 6:50 AM  

Cut this judge some slack; he puts his robes on one leg at a time

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 17, 2017 6:57 AM  

Modern republicanism ended Western Civilization. I don't know why people keep on bringing this up for. On the seal of the United States is the phrase "Novus Ordo". America is a Masonic republic---nothing to do with Western Civilization. The phrase tells you that! The Old Order is Western Civilization. When it says Novus Ordo, it means it is a new order not connected to the past! It is a break. You are as deceived as the Left is.

The American and French Revolutions, one and the same, ended Western Civilization. That is why they are called "revolutions". The words themselves say there is a change.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 7:04 AM  

Shalt thou have company with the throne of iniquity, which frameth mischief by a law?

It's time for Trump to emulate Old Hickory's famous outburst: "By the Eternal! I'll smash them!"


This is awesome. Got me jiggly. The sort of rhetoric that says 'Murica! Last Christian outpost!

Blogger Gunnar Thalweg March 17, 2017 7:10 AM  

What we are witnessing is a literal breakdown of civil society and a descent into structural lawlessness.

This is what I said was the poison of same-sex marriage. We could have changed the definition of marriage to accommodate gay couples. Or not.

But by imposing same-sex marriage under anti-discrimination law, judges undercut the connection between language and the law. When words mean whatever we want them to mean, then there really is no law.

The issue is hermeneutics. Judges need to be restrained by natural reason in their interpretations ... and by denying natural reason (and natural law), they have nothing left but power.

Essentially, we have a serious problem in this country, structurally. It's been a problem ever since the New Deal decisions in the mid-30s, because we've had a hermeneutical fudge going on for decades. But it was still restrained. With Obergefell, the restraint was gone. Now, yes, we will see judicial lawlessness. Simultaneously, the left, as it grows more depraved the further it gets from God, is losing its ability to tolerate Christianity, natural reason, natural law, and traditional masculinity. Without the law, you get an endless power struggle.

I sit here and watch many of my friends cheer on this stuff, not seeing that same-sex marriage (and abortion) were philosophical Trojan horses that undercut the philosophy of morals and the philosophy of law needed to peacefully resolve conflict -- that they unlocked the gates (philosophically) to ancient demons.

Blogger plishman March 17, 2017 7:16 AM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

The infogalactic page on literacy rates by country shows that all western European countries, the US, Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand all have no UNESCO data recorded on their literacy rate.

Among other nations, only Somalia, the disputed Moroccan territory of Western Sahara and French Guiana lack UNESCO literacy data. (French Guiana though appears from other sources to have a literacy rate of 83% - http://www.phrasebase.com/countries/french-guiana/ ).

After 50+ years exposure to Marxist education systems, anecdotal experience and sporadic reports suggest that literacy has slumped, hence it is essential that proper literacy data is discovered for the Western Christian nations so that the efficacy of their education systems can be benchmarked.

The longstanding absence of literacy statistics from public records is a scandal, and is almost certainly being used to 'hide the decline' in the literacy rates of countries whose education systems are under long-baseline attack by Marxist progressive nihilists.

Blogger Lovekraft March 17, 2017 7:18 AM  

My perception of the duty of an elected leader is to LESSEN THE BURDEN of his constituency.

What we are seeing, instead, is politicians seeking fame, adoration, photo ops, and sucking the teat of globalist diversity interest groups.

Hardly an invocation for civic duty and commitment in the populace.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 17, 2017 7:22 AM  

Modern republicanism ended Western Civilization. I don't know why people keep on bringing this up for. On the seal of the United States is the phrase "Novus Ordo". America is a Masonic republic---nothing to do with Western Civilization. The phrase tells you that! The Old Order is Western Civilization. When it says Novus Ordo, it means it is a new order not connected to the past! It is a break. You are as deceived as the Left is.

The American and French Revolutions, one and the same, ended Western Civilization. That is why they are called "revolutions". The words themselves say there is a change.


@41 W.LindsayWheeler
You know the republic is dead when the only people seriously defending the logical conclusions of the principles upon which it was built are Fake Americans, and the only people seriously defending the principles themselves are the Cucks.

It's getting to the point where Real Americans need a counterrevolution of our own to establish an explicitly Christian state. No more of this "separation of church and state" BS or we'll get swamped with musloids. No more of this "liberty equality fraternity" BS or we'll get swamped with africoons.

God willing, the coming hot civil war will be a blessing in disguise.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 7:32 AM  

Okay Wheeler I'll bite....

America is a Masonic republic---nothing to do with Western Civilization.

Using Latin to declare a new era of America signifies a new phase, not a destruction. When you got the French, British & Spanish colonialists all warring intermittedly against each other & the Germans are making snow angels on the ground clueless about their own national identity while Luther bags out the Church for not seeing things the Grand Strategist Boxhead Way there's enough room for new stuff to emerge. And the Slavs are too busy cruelly treating each other to notice Napoleon wants to French them up.

Anonymous Icicle March 17, 2017 7:36 AM  

I'm glad it is out in the open now.

Now we can actually see exactly what and who we are dealing with.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 17, 2017 7:44 AM  

@47 Jamie-R

The United States was technically based upon the principle of Hobbes and Locke, rather than explicitly Masonic ones. But Lockean principles are "pre-Masonic", and lead logically to Masonic (dyscivilizational) ones, of which the French Revolution is a prime example.

Americans decisively voted for Trump in the last election. This is a wholesale rejection of these Lockean principles and indicates an urge among Americans to return to an explicitly Christian and nationalist stance... if nothing else, for their own survival.

By contrast, Fake Americans recognize what side their bread is buttered on, and fully back the Lockean, pre-Masonic principles.

Anonymous deplorable March 17, 2017 7:47 AM  

Jamie"The Bull"-R is back.

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 17, 2017 8:03 AM  

@18 - VD, I prefer what you said in the Darkstream...Trump needs to strip them fake judges, strip them of citizenship and send them to Guantanamo.

Regarding the judiciary, what is the long term solution though? The whole law systems way of dealing with and interpreting law is completely broken. I don't know enough about the law system to know how this could be fixed but the courts need a major overhaul if law is to ever be reestablished.

Blogger Cail Corishev March 17, 2017 8:03 AM  

This lunacy is going to force congress to write the courts out of the immigration business

Congress already did that, making immigration the sole province of the executive branch. According to this article, the Supreme Court confirmed that in a decision just last year. This judge simply ignored the law, the Constitution, and the higher Court, so I don't see why he couldn't ignore any new laws Congress passes to repeat themselves.

I don't know exactly what the legal means are for dealing with a renegade judge, but I don't think it'll help to pass new laws that say, "We really meant the old laws."

Anonymous Incurvatus March 17, 2017 8:06 AM  

It's past time to shift the Overton Window and begin discussing widespread impeachment of judges. They serve, per the Constitution, for "good behavior," but until now it has only been the rare drunk or (openly-)bribed judge who has been removed.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 8:06 AM  

Conservatism based around Locke is dying I can see that. But masonic as an assertion of 'secular nationalism' is a bit too far, Locke had some things that were fine additions to European learning about developing society, BUT Locke's view of Man as Tabula Rasa is the source of his condemnation, Western lefties have used it as a battering ram to carry us to their messed up Utopia of everyone equal. Race wasn't on the radar when he was thinking about taking that wanky idea to the bank. Obviously racial science refutes it.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 17, 2017 8:07 AM  

History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme.

The problem was that once abusing the power of the Tribunes was established for the good of the Plebes, it was just as easily abused to damage them. Reforms that could have helped the poor men of Rome were routinely blocked simply by using the power of the Tribune's Veto. The Republic rapidly deteriorated as the interests of the wealthy were protected by the Veto and the problems of the poor men of Rome became worse and worse. All faith was gradually lost in the institutions of the Republic by it's lower citizens until finally, Rome could no longer function. The Republic was not over thrown by Dictators, they just stepped into a power vacuum.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 8:08 AM  

@FUCK GOOGLE

This is why I've been saying for years that we need to kill a few judges (legally / execution or extr-illegally / assassination) until those remaining understand that they are not to assume they can make new law and poli lies willy-nilly according to their whims.

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 17, 2017 8:09 AM  

@53 But "good behavior" means different things to different law makers.

The issue is that the interpretation of the Constitution is way off track. Rarely is Constitutional law decided by a literal and diminutive interpretation of the document. Usually it is overruled via case law.

Blogger Silly But True March 17, 2017 8:10 AM  

"What would the alt-right say"

https://youtu.be/vgrGyR6EYbY

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 17, 2017 8:14 AM  

@55 - Cataline - agree with your post. The actions of the pro-SJW Leftist judiary is going to convince more real Americans that rule of law does not exist. It will lead to more joining the Alt-Right.

Anonymous krymneth March 17, 2017 8:16 AM  

I think the Left thinks they've got Trump boxed in to either accepting the order, or fighting it in the courts, which still implies he accepts the authority and where the Supreme Court nomination could hold things up. However, Trump is very creative and I can think of some other options.

First, of course, we've got the "remove the filibuster" option to get Gorsuch confirmed, and appeal to the Supreme Court. Gets the job done but still cedes the power.

One that fits Trump's MO to date is to propose a Constitutional Amendment allowing him the power to issue these EOs. Wait for the press to, in their usual fashion, jump on Trump with a bevy of legal experts who point out this power already exists and what an ignorant buffoon Trump is for proposing it, at which point Trump says "You don't say?" and signs a fresh copy of the original order. Double bonus points if he manages to set the stage to manufacture a hostile-seeming press conference where the press pool jumps all over him about this, only for him to ask at the end "So you all agree this is unnecessary because I already have this power?", and then sign the fresh copy of the original EO in the press conference.

He can issue a series of ever-weaker orders just barely distinguishing between good and bad entries, and wait for the judiciary to eliminate every single one of them for the obviously-spurious reasons they are willing to do so. Then he locks everybody out of the US who doesn't already have the right to enter while we "work out what we are actually allowed to do to protect the US", and instruct Customs to ignore any court order to the contrary citing his clear power to do this and the obviously non-discriminatory nature of the decision. Double-bonus trap if the judiciary starts explicitly working in "discriminatory" more and more into their dissent. And then he negotiates from that position, instead of the default position of "everybody has an unlimited right to entry."

The nuclear option? "Since this country can't seem to decide where the boundary between President and Judiciary lies, it's time for a Constitutional Convention to answer this question." Both the threat and the actual Convention could be useful tools; in recent history Congress has tended to panic at the mere suggestion of a constitutional convention. Keep an eye on the budget; are we cutting down the departments that would be responsible for analyzing and creating the official Federal position on the convention? In fact we should probably examine final budgets in light of "what if there was a constitutional convention?" just for fun.

And then there's of course all the other things I don't know and didn't think of.

I'm spitballing here. I can argue against all the ideas above, too. But they are, at least, options, and as I alluded to explicitly in the convention case, there's also "threat" vs. "practice" variations for a lot of them, too, with Trump's reputation as a madman making some of the threats of otherwise-infeasible actions credible to the Left, as well as significant differences in results based on how he spins the ideas, etc. He's got a menu of options beyond just ignoring it or just knuckling under to the courts, and he's proved he's not afraid to consider them.

Blogger Jamie-R March 17, 2017 8:19 AM  

Coming out of a colony where some significant Englishmen blood is responsible for the hardcore leftist turn I can see where Locke's descendants are veering towards hell. The rapid decline of English intellectuals & elite is a sign it all went wrong back in the Enlightenment Days. Didn't question how far it could mix with Marxist Entryism. In the end, and an important addition, Western Jewish intellectuals (only ones worth a damn in the minority aspects, maybe some Slavs) were always going to keep rose-coloured glasses off when speaking of my treasured philosophically-leaning racial ancestors and barter their way to a cheaper price on what they may have wanted for their posterity.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 17, 2017 8:21 AM  

Notice: From Obama's naked expropriation of GM bondholders in favor of the unions supporting him (in absolute violation of the law) to Schumer, Warren, Pelosi and Blumenthal attaching a rider to prevent bondholders of Puerto Rico muni's from suing over $70 BILLION in losses due to naked fraud on Wall Street (and stealing the residual value and handing it to unions, not to mention spiking criminal investigations into the open sewer of criminality), any rational observer must see that the sanctity of contract is no longer valid.
https://www.thecaribbeanradio.com/commentary-the-real-reason-new-york-us-attorney-preet-bharara-was-asked-to-resign/

WHO in his right MIND, still buys bonds? Who still thinks the game isn't rigged by campaign donations to the congenital criminals in Washington DC, aided and abetted by their choirboys in the Media cabal?

The "rule of law" has been visibly dead and buried for years, yet the Hivemind still is in thrall of the Svengali's who yap at them on The Boob Tube. This Hawaii clown's act is just another visible brick in that wall.

This is the most obvious of all indications that people believe what they must in order to satisfy pre-cognitive "social mood" they neither notice nor recall. High-Social-Mood people will get on cattle cars without prodding, even if their ticket is explicitly One Way and the sign above the door says "You're about to die." People in the throes of a social mood mania would simply chuckle at the joke and walk right into the pit.

What we see around us is real. The herd's reaction puzzles us, because the herd members' actions are irrational, and exhibit utter blindness.

When social mood finally turns down in earnest, all that blindness will disappear and the mountain of criminal malfeasance will wink into existence in their eyesight.

What we are witnessing is the largest set-piece in theater history, erected just off stage-right in the wings and awaiting the cue to roll onto the world's stage.

The audience will lose. its. shit.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 8:23 AM  

@Grayman

The generals and admirals who were purged can always be brought back, and their replacements purged.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 8:31 AM  

@VFM #7634

Neutron bombs in major ghettoized cities for the win. Only then can Detroit be rebuilt and in civilized hands again.

Anonymous BBGKB March 17, 2017 8:37 AM  

You'd think they'd uphold an abortion ban or rule in favor of a Christian business once in awhile just to give the appearance

What if a goy lawyer sued and failed? Is there a jew lawyer that would sue a jewish bakery for not baking cakes?

People like this judge are screwed if there is a civil war.

In CT the 3%ers published lists of addresses of all the politicians who voted for gun grabbing.

I'm glad it is out in the open now.

The question is how long does it have to be in the open before the normies start seeing it? The first time I saw the viral vid of 2 men cornering (between a bathtub /sink)a little boy that didn't know them well in a private homes bathroom & keeping him from escaping there were people that couldn't even see it with the sound turned off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ybAlFrV8f4

OT:Netflix Changing User Rating System Because the unfunny Amy Schumer, relative of the evil senator, got accurate, low ratings.
http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/16/netflix-star-ratings/

OpenID obaoghill March 17, 2017 8:41 AM  

No longer taught but still relevant:

"For whenever a question arises between the society at large and any magistrate vested with powers originally delegated by that society, it must be decided by the voice of the society itself: there is not upon earth any other tribunal to resort to."

Sir William Blackstone, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book I, Chp3, pg.205/6

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 8:49 AM  

@63 Dirk,

I wish I could find that "war game" assessment again, it was down a rabbit hole of link, but they even went into a splintering of the military chain of command. The DOD and the various deepstate organizations are so heavily politicized and have been for so long that even undoing Obama's purge will not prevent a splintering of the military in a civil conflict.
The "war game scenario" i had read suggested that they thought 50% to 70% of the military would go AWOL / refuse to follow orders in a hot civil conflict and that there would be substantial sabotage from people who stayed but were not loyal to the military.


@64,
No need for nukes. Thermbaric explosives / warheads will flatten a city just fine. look at Russia's original plan for the 1999 battle of Grozny. They opened a safe corridor and said anyone left in the city after the warning period would be dead as they were going to completely level the city with bombardment, scorched earth. They never did that due to western political pressure, but it was the best strategic approach.
Thermobarics will be the way to respond to urban guerrilla warfare. Warn civilians to leave via safe corridor in a given time period then raze the target area to the ground. The other option is astonishingly large losses through sustained urban guerrilla combat that would make grozny look like a drunken brawl.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 17, 2017 8:52 AM  

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Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 17, 2017 8:56 AM  

The essence of the struggle is laid down in Genesis. In the story of Eve and the snake. What is the essence of the story? Eve said she was deceived but that is not the essence.

God laid down the law, not to eat of the tree. Not only was it law, but it was authority. God is the authority. Satan came by and said, basically, that God is not the authority and challenged it as saying God is lying.

That story is repeated throughout the ages. Western Civilization, born out of the Greco-Roman heritage is based on authority. Authority is a Roman coinage and Roman word. The Roman Republic was based on autoritas. Christendom developed on the backs of two separate but connected authorities, Throne and Altar.

Over and over again, the Genesis story repeats. Man's war against authority, against Law and God. The Spartan king Demaratus explains, "They accept Law as their master. And they respect this master more than your subjects respect you. Whatever he commands, they do." That law is outside oneself---not within.

That is Western Civilization.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 8:57 AM  

@65 BBGKB

The question is how long does it have to be in the open before the normies start seeing it?

We are getting close, the herd can smell smoke on the wind and are getting restless. Several people I know who are the typical blind sheep are starting to openly wonder what is going own. They are still hopelessly blind to events but sense a storm.
Political arrests and disappearances would be a big sign we are close to going hot from a historical perspective. But I wonder if that may be different this time due to modern tech, perhaps they just digitally black-hole people instead of physically dissapearing them.
Perhaps targeted killings by the blackblock will be the signpost this time.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 17, 2017 8:58 AM  

Can we dispense with the illusion of elected representatives already? Regardless of how ignorant and baseless this decision is, this represents the judiciary's total usurpation of the powers of the legislature and executive.

It is time for Amnesty International to condemn the United States for being an autocracy, and for the people to restore liberty by any means necessary. The God Emperor simply needs to declare a moratorium on all immigration due to the national emergency, and instruct the State Departments its employees will be fired and prosecuted if it issues more visas or green cards. It's on.

Blogger 1101doc March 17, 2017 9:08 AM  

Trump should just instruct the State Dept. to stop issuing visas. To anyone from anywhere for any reason until "this can all be settled in the courts." Literally NO visas for anyone. Period. Stop ALL foreigners from entering our country for the duration of the legal dispute. NO exceptions.

Anonymous Rocklea March 17, 2017 9:11 AM  

According to Infogalactic:

"On September 29, 2015 the Department of the Interior announced a procedure to recognize a Native Hawaiian government."

The Hawaiian sovereignty movement considers Hawaii to be occupied territory. How could this Judge in good conscience not be amenable to such a noble cause. What was once annexed could be un-annexed.

Then this judge and the Hawaiian people could embrace their 7.6 billion new citizens, Trump could declare the new country a national security threat and then see which other states wanna play.

Repeal the Hawaii Admission Act, they are all ~americans anyway.

Free Hawaii now

Blogger dienw March 17, 2017 9:13 AM  

Well, well, for "Judge" Watson there is only one president:
According to reports, Watson met with President Obama a day before requested a temporary restraining order on President Trump's new executive order.

Trump needs to remove Soetoro now for treason and insurrection.

Anonymous kfg March 17, 2017 9:17 AM  

@41:

That's right. Anything that says "New" right on the tin, especially in important matters such as governance and religion, should be ignored and done away with.

Restore the old Western order.

Blogger pyrrhus March 17, 2017 9:18 AM  

Actually, these court decisions over the last forty years are perfectly consistent and coherent. Whatever the cultural marxists of America want, they shall be given, and precedent be damned....

Blogger Johnny March 17, 2017 9:29 AM  

>>Trump should just instruct the State Dept. to stop issuing visas.

>>Trump needs to remove Soetoro now for treason and insurrection.

What Trump has to do always is play the politics of it. Stay strategic not tactical. That is, don't worry the travel ban in the short run, rather make a political case against this sort of judicial activism. I suspect that is what Trump has planned. He has a real genius for playing the press to his advantage.

The whole judicial activism thing got going in a small way post in the 1950's and has been growing ever since.

Anonymous Icicle March 17, 2017 9:36 AM  

Perhaps targeted killings by the blackblock will be the signpost this time.

Those are already here. They are being kept off the radar.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 9:42 AM  

@78 Ice

Any links or sources, genuinely curious?

Anonymous Icicle March 17, 2017 9:43 AM  

There are none yet.

Cernovich needs to be careful.

Anonymous Clay March 17, 2017 9:48 AM  

Fight fire with fire. Can't these Obama Judges be outright fired by Trump? I hear, Sessions "asked" for all these Obamanites resign.

Fat freaking chance.

I'm getting sick of this, and wondering if Trump has his man panties on.

Blogger JWM in SD March 17, 2017 9:58 AM  

"I'm glad it is out in the open now. Now we can actually see exactly what and who we are dealing with."

You know, if there is anything that Trump is doing right in the early stage of his administration, it might be simply putting all of these issues into the public arena for scrutiny. That seems to be technique he employs for building strategic advantage and hence the use of twitter as a modern, virtual "bully pulpit".

Blogger praetorian March 17, 2017 9:59 AM  

It has long been legal precedent that any decision is incontestable so long as it sounds sufficiently convoluted to a layman. Twisted logic is evidence the legal system is working.

Alinsky Rule #4 at work.

They (er, (((they)))) don't believe in precedent for a second (and, therefore, law, as created by the English) but they will damned sure use it against us once they get the decision they want.

They are not arguing in good faith. "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

There are no more arguments... to be made

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 10:03 AM  

@81

Can't these Obama Judges be outright fired by Trump?

No, they have to be impeached.

Anonymous Avalanche March 17, 2017 10:11 AM  

@37 "Trump has to be careful with the military the enlisted ranks and junior officers overwhelmingly support trump, BUT Obama essentially purged the senior officer ranks and replaced them with apparatchiks. That could rapidly turn into a cluster-fuck if trump tries to use the military without being fully confident the senior officers involved aren't compromised."

Thus: General Mattis.

(Trump is always playing 5D chess!)

Anonymous gxg March 17, 2017 10:12 AM  

Grayman: "I wish I could find that 'war game' assessment again..."

I believe you're referring to this? Fascinating read.
Former Red Team Planner: 'If There Was a Revolution…'

"The estimated desertion rate in case of a civil war is 75% in the case of a left-wing president. 50% of that would be assumed to immediately betray the president. The remaining (treasonous) military would be fighting its own..."

No wonder the establishment is freaking out. Faith in the government is crumbling and we don't have a leftwing president.

Anonymous fop March 17, 2017 10:20 AM  

Whatever happened to tar and feathers?

It would be incredibly effective, yet harmless.

Anonymous gxg March 17, 2017 10:24 AM  

Maryland Fed Judge Considers Ordering President Trump to Double Annual Inflow of Refugees

His Name? "Judge Chuang"

#FakeAmerican

Anonymous Clay March 17, 2017 10:25 AM  

Grayman wrote:@81

Can't these Obama Judges be outright fired by Trump?

No, they have to be impeached.


OK, Grayman, I'll give you the benefit of doubt.

They can't impeach the President (successfully) of lying to a Grand Jury, and the POTUS can't fire a judge.

Nixon would be laughing.

Blogger tz March 17, 2017 10:29 AM  

Ignore the decision except for Hawaii.
That was another overstep, normally a federal judge can't impose outside his district.

But the judiciary is a mockery. Obamacare's mandate is rewritten into a tax. Gay marriage. Abortion. Even Bob Jones.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 10:34 AM  

@86 gxg,

No, but that is somewhat similar. In regards to your link, I don't think the "government" will start or support the civil war, it is the leftist idealists that will force the issue. The government will still be dragged into it regardless. Lawlessness and corruption have become so blatant that neither side respect the authority of the government any more. People "go along to get along" which is very different then respecting the law. Such a power vacuum will not last and the 2 factions (left v right) will vie to fill that power vacuum.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 10:39 AM  

@89 Clay

A slight correction to myself. Currently Impeachment is the accepted route by per Yale law you could remove a federal judge through a trial process. But that isnt going to work when the vast majority of the judiciary is corrupt:

Most everyone assumes that impeachment is the only means of removing federal judges and that the Constitution's grant of good-behavior tenure is an implicit reference to impeachment. This Article challenges that conventional wisdom. Using evidence from England, the colonies, and the revolutionary state constitutions, the Article demonstrates that at the Founding, good-behavior tenure and impeachment had only the most tenuous of relationships. Good-behavior tenure was forfeitable upon a judicial finding of misbehavior. There would have to be a trial, the hearing of witnesses, and the introduction of evidence, with misbehavior proved by the party seeking to oust the tenured individual.
http://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/how-to-remove-a-federal-judge

Anonymous Trump-Democrat March 17, 2017 10:53 AM  

In my view Qurran 2:191-193 is incompatible with freedom of religion and western civilization, its unAmerican and maybe even unconstitutional

2:191-193
".. And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."

If I were president I would ban ALL Muslims, not just some, but that's just me

Anonymous a_peraspera March 17, 2017 11:03 AM  

@Grayman: "Thermobarics will be the way to respond to urban guerrilla warfare. Warn civilians to leave via safe corridor in a given time period then raze the target area to the ground."

Um, what? When you're to the point of destroying a city, it's not the buildings that are the problem but the rebellious people. Letting the people leave first makes no sense. It's the people you need to kill.

Blogger Jack Ward March 17, 2017 11:03 AM  

@87 Tar and feathers are not harmless. The feathers yes, the hot tar can badly burn your skin and, most probably, kill you. The only way to tar and not kill, might, might, be to smear it on the victim's clothes. A doubtful process in the emotional heat of mob action.
Not that the tar isn't justified, mind you. If it comes to tar and feathers just shoot the idiot and be done with it.

Anonymous Clay March 17, 2017 11:08 AM  

92. Grayman March 17, 2017 10:39 AM
@89 Clay

A slight correction to myself. Currently Impeachment is the accepted route by per Yale law you could remove a federal judge through a trial process. But that isnt going to work when the vast majority of the judiciary is corrupt:

Most everyone assumes that impeachment is the only means of removing federal judges and that the Constitution's grant of good-behavior tenure is an implicit reference to impeachment. This Article challenges that conventional wisdom. Using evidence from England, the colonies, and the revolutionary state constitutions, the Article demonstrates that at the Founding, good-behavior tenure and impeachment had only the most tenuous of relationships. Good-behavior tenure was forfeitable upon a judicial finding of misbehavior. There would have to be a trial, the hearing of witnesses, and the introduction of evidence, with misbehavior proved by the party seeking to oust the tenured individual.
http://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/how-to-remove-a-federal-judge

Well, thanks, Grayman.

BUT...aren't you still saying the POTUS can't fire a Fed Judge?

He might get a lot of flak for doing so....but, so what????

Funny, I was just listening to the CLASH. Trump needs to put his man-panties on, and do it NOW.

Blogger Ron March 17, 2017 11:14 AM  

@a_perspera

A man without a house or income has a lot of fight taken out of him. Why do you think the leftists focus on doing that to everyone?

Blogger Stilicho March 17, 2017 11:15 AM  

@drunk Aussie: the tabula rasa is Rousseau's brain child, not Locke. Don't blame the Protestant English for abominations created by the Roman Catholic French.

@ wheeler: still looking for a secular power to kneel to, I see. That led your fellow RC's straight to the French Revolution. Contrary to your implication that the sharing of power between throne and altar created an effective check on the abuse of power, it merely corrupted the RCC as it pursued secular power. Of course, that is to be expected of a church so judaized that they openly preach the doctrine of the Pharisees as superior to. Scripture.

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 11:16 AM  

@93

Cliff notes of Islam.

-There are 3 "books" of Islam, the Koran, the Sira the hadiths

Abrogation: abrogation of an older verse by a new verse in the Quran, or within the Hadiths, was an established principle in Sharia at least by the 9th century. (TDLR: any contradictions shall be resolved by following what the newer verse states).

The nice "religion of peace" verses come from the early phase of the koran when Mohammed was in mecca. he then went to Medina and began preaching violent jihad Islam. Remember abrogation? The verse of the sword (Sura 9:5), one of the last and hence abrogates all earlier verses that conflict , states:
fight and slay the unbelievers wherever you find them, and lie on wait for them in every stratagem of war.

No observant Muslim can ever be considered compatible with the west. And claiming apostatacy in Islam is a death sentence....

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 11:23 AM  

@96

BUT...aren't you still saying the POTUS can't fire a Fed Judge?

Yes, I am saying that based on what I have read on the matter.


@94
You could kill everyone if you are prepared to goo full on total war. But in a city or portion of a city with a small % of guerrillas relative to the civilian population, you may consider allowing civilians out, but yes you have to screen them.

Blogger Timmy3 March 17, 2017 11:23 AM  

Impeachment is the operative word. Either impeach the judge or act and then invite the impeachment of the president. You know the Democrats are salivating at finding any grounds on impeaching the president. First exhaust the judicial process. Behind the scenes, ask for a procedural slowdown of the issuance of visas across the board. Ask for extreme vetting for all countries. Take an extra month or several.

Blogger scimitar March 17, 2017 11:26 AM  

Lawyers are gonna kill us all. They've rendered the English language meaningless. Words can mean whatever they say they mean

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 17, 2017 11:38 AM  

Scientology sued the irs until it capitulated

Anonymous Grayman March 17, 2017 11:39 AM  

"If you want, we could open the way for 15,000 refugees that we don't send each month and blow the mind of Europe" Turkey's interior minister Soylu threatened Europe in a speech late Thursday. "Europe, do you have that kind of courage."

online business opportunity for selling white tunics with a red cross to wear over your battle gear????

Blogger Darwinian Arminian March 17, 2017 11:44 AM  

". . . . . . Go Full Andrew Jackson?" I like the sound of that! So to swipe from Old Hickory himself:

Judge Derrick Watson has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!

Blogger Nick S March 17, 2017 11:45 AM  

"What we are witnessing is a literal breakdown of civil society and a descent into structural lawlessness."

So far the leftist commie bastages are only miffed. Just wait for the real panic to set in once Ginsburg and Kennedy vacate. I can almost smell the gunpowder now.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 17, 2017 12:06 PM  

LurkingPuppy wrote:This openly lawless conduct by judges could give Trump an excuse to go farther and do away with ‘judicial immunity’, if he cracks down on the courts before someone takes extralegal measures against them. (And if the wrong American gets murdered by one of the people these treasonous judges let in, there is a very real chance that that will happen.)

To be fair, "judicial immunity" is made-up and flies in the face of laws as-written and the jurisprudential notion of the Rule of Law. -- This can be seen in 18 USC 241 and 242.

Looking Glass wrote:Are we at the point we can admit that Marbury vs Madison is what killed the Republic? Every time the Supremes f-up something, it can't be fixed easily. And they're almost wholly responsible for the Civil War. And 50 million children murdered.

They are usurpers and act like it. The logical consequences would, it appear, start to be happening soon. Even if it's taken a long while.


I'm not so sure I'd lay the fault at Marbury, after all it concludes with Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the Constitution of the United States if that Constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him and cannot be inspected by him?

If such be the real state of things, this is worse than solemn mockery. To prescribe or to take this oath becomes equally a crime.

It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that, in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution, have that rank.

Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.

Anonymous Gen. Kong March 17, 2017 12:07 PM  

The congress which some ghost-dancers here are expecting to impeach this Marxist ideologue fake-judge is the very same gang who rubber-stamped him into office after being appointed by the fake-president. The odds of a legislature made up largely of cucks and D-jersey communists actually doing anything are minuscule. The only federal blackrobe actually impeached in recent decades - for taking bribes in his chamber - now sits in their ranks as congressman from Florida, Alcee Hastings. One should always keep in mind Mark Twain's remark about the general nature of congress: Fleas can be taught anything that a congressman can do.

Blogger Silly But True March 17, 2017 12:20 PM  

@Clay: "BUT...aren't you still saying the POTUS can't fire a Fed Judge? He might get a lot of flak for doing so....but, so what????"

This is what the term "Constitutional crisis" is meant to describe. At that point, the simple law of possession governs.

I.e. not merely "It's his ruling, let him enforce it" but judge and any supporting US Marshals would need to fend off and hold removal actions likely beginning first with other US Marshals, but certainly expanding to include collective armed Justice Dept. agencies, and up to and including military; depending on civillian support that crisis could then fairly include civil war as the resolution. At which point fuel air or neutron bombing of cities are certainly in realm of possibility.

More reasonably the early Croatian secession (Croatia vs. Yugo State forces attempting to keep it in Yugoslavia before all of the fractured ethnic militias joined) or the two-week '93 Russian disagreement between Yeltsin/Parliament are more reasonable models.

Croatia included use of air power. Russia did not.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 17, 2017 12:22 PM  

Grayman wrote:Don't forget that the treasonous cuck ed congress is perfectly willing to stab trump in the back and impeach him the first chance they get.

Trump needs to neutralize congresses ability to backstabbing him while he deals with the court.


I actually have a plan that would do that -- it's absurdly simple and cannot be countered in the methods that are normally used by Congress and/or the Judiciary:

(1) Declare a state of invasion using the real illegal immigrant numbers. [25-30 Million, from what I've read, that's getting close to 10% of the 300+X Million population of the US.]
(2) Cite the Constitution's Article 4, Section 4 [which mandates the federal government protect the States against invasion] in orders for the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Federalized National Guard/Reserves.
--(a) to secure the border against unauthorized entry, with lethal force authorized.
--(b) to besiege the so-called "Sanctuary Cities", noting that they are giving aid and comfort to the invaders.
(3) When Congress tries to impeach over this, arrest them for Treason. [Note that the Constitution explicitly denies the privilege from arrest for Treason in Article 1, Section 6.]
(4) When the courts try to block this, arrest them for their Treason in aiding the invaders and Sedition in acting to block the execution of Article 4, Section 4.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 12:44 PM  

Very few army, especially from combat arms units, will fire on non-fake Americans. Navy overall and air force enlisted are far less reliable to refuse orders to fire at true patriots -- they tend to believe that private citizens who have their own small arms are weird. USAF personell even think that about the SP's guarding the entrance gates.
2/3 of combat power is the National Guard. Almost none of them will fire on real Americans -- the exception being MP's, because so many of them are civilian cops ans already treat 99% of the General public as "the enemy"

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 12:56 PM  

Tar and feathers brings much pain both physical, and the public humiliation and learning that EVERYONE hates you.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 12:57 PM  

It's the perfect form of execution to be used on rabbits and gammas.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable March 17, 2017 1:02 PM  

We need to restrict the licensed professions to people from within the Hajnal line. It won't be a panacea of course, but there is no excuse for allowing genetically low-trust peoples into the trust professions in a high-trust nation.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 17, 2017 1:09 PM  

VFM #7634 penned: VFM #7634 wrote:You know the republic is dead when the only people seriously defending the logical conclusions of the principles upon which it was built are Fake Americans, and the only people seriously defending the principles themselves are the Cucks.

Totally agree; have observed the same thing.


Stilicho wrote:@ wheeler: still looking for a secular power to kneel to, I see. That led your fellow RC's straight to the French Revolution. Contrary to your implication that the sharing of power between throne and altar created an effective check on the abuse of power, it merely corrupted the RCC as it pursued secular power. Of course, that is to be expected of a church so judaized that they openly preach the doctrine of the Pharisees as superior to. Scripture.

I agree to your premise. Europeans swing to extremes for some reason. The right place to be is the Golden Mean and, in governmental forms, it is the classical republic, mixed government is the best form of government. Still have a king with a proper Senate of the aristocracy and a house of commons.

Racial groups, the ethnostate, requires, must have, a Monarch and a royal family. That is the center of the race. No Monarch---No Race. Just as a cell requires a nucleus, race needs its nucleus, the Monarch. A limited Monarchy but a Monarchy nonetheless.

Stilcho, Can you have a Family without a Father? You can't have a race/nation without a Monarch!

Blogger VFM #7634 March 17, 2017 1:18 PM  

If I were president I would ban ALL Muslims, not just some, but that's just me

@93 Trump-Democrat
Trump needs to go President Buckman on them, by declaring Islam "primarily a hostile and dangerous political movement, and only incidentally and dishonestly a religion". (Tom Kratman reference.)

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 17, 2017 1:42 PM  

What we are witnessing is a literal breakdown of civil society and a descent into structural lawlessness

Looks like a deliberate teardown of civil society. Given that 0bama consulted with this judge, that the decision was pre-written, it stinks of Alinskyite tactics to me. A decision deliberately aimed at the very concept of "nation" existing at all.

The left wants war. Because that's how they expect to get to their precious, the Year Zero.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents March 17, 2017 1:44 PM  

Wheeler
Can you have a Family without a Father? You can't have a race/nation without a Monarch!

Is Switzerland a nation?

Anonymous kfg March 17, 2017 1:46 PM  

@118: "Is Switzerland a nation?"

No.

Blogger JWM in SD March 17, 2017 1:51 PM  

"A decision deliberately aimed at the very concept of "nation" existing at all."

I know right?! That's what is so incredible about the open borders position...it's sheer lack of fidelity. The position is untenable once the emotional arguments are pushed aside.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 17, 2017 2:17 PM  

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Anonymous Trump-Democrat March 17, 2017 2:29 PM  

The nice "religion of peace" verses come from the early phase of the koran when Mohammed was in mecca. he then went to Medina and began preaching violent jihad Islam.

Wasn't aware of that, unlike wine it seems that Mohammed did not get better with age

Blogger VD March 17, 2017 3:00 PM  

Is Switzerland a nation?

No, it is, quite literally, a "confederation".

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 17, 2017 3:41 PM  

Grayman wrote:You could kill everyone if you are prepared to goo full on total war. But in a city or portion of a city with a small % of guerrillas relative to the civilian population, you may consider allowing civilians out, but yes you have to screen them.

If the people of the city will not kill the guerrillas, they are the guerrillas. Thermobarics away!

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 17, 2017 3:41 PM  

Yes, CH is a confederation. Without a king. Yet it functions.

Don't tell Wheeler.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 17, 2017 3:44 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:I actually have a plan that would do that

From your keyboard to Trump's eyes - it might work.

Anonymous Soylent_Green March 17, 2017 4:00 PM  

For those interested in urban combat:
http://www.benning.army.mil/infantry/magazine/issues/2014/Oct-Mar/pdfs/Grau.pdf

Bit more in depth: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a483607.pdf

Blogger tublecane March 17, 2017 5:20 PM  

@4- "they're almost wholly responsible for the Civil War"

Wrong. Lincoln is.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 17, 2017 5:35 PM  

So, all you Civic Nationalists;
What is the Constitutional remedy for these judges' behavior?
Impeachment, obviously. So, why are the Civic Nationalists not demanding impeachment? Theoretically you have a majority in Congress, even the Senate. You should be able to have these clowns out on their asses tomorrow afternoon. Why is no-one even starting the process?

Blogger tublecane March 17, 2017 5:39 PM  

@43-The New Deal was "revolution within the form." The form was kept, either for PR purposes or because they really didn't know what they were doing. The revolution was culminated with the approbation of the Supremes after the "switch in time." They had been the last official holdouts.

Democratic rule, at least as practiced historically, involves deception. Because you have to convince people to let you rule over them, and the easier way to do that is to lie to them. Even if you give people what they want, often they don't want to want what they want, so you have to lie to them. Which isn't to say you do nothing but lie. But there is a lot of it.

Post-New Deal, it's not just some lying, it's based on a lie. Because that fundamental document, which had little enough to do with actual government from 1789 to 1932 (especially for a stretch in the 1860s), had nothing to with reality after 1937. It was a shell. Only relevant if certain people at certain times felt like paying attention.

It's a strain, living under a lie like we do.

Anonymous carry_bit March 17, 2017 5:52 PM  

When do we start charging the 7.6 billion Americans taxes?

Blogger tublecane March 17, 2017 5:53 PM  

@129-Civic nationalists are cowed by the assumption of judicial respectability, as well as the unfortunate lack of a healthy tradition of political impeachment. Just like most everyone else.

Anonymous Clay March 17, 2017 5:59 PM  

Pardon me for being obtuse...but, I still don't get it.

POTUS can pardon a convicted murderer, but can't fire a Federal Judge...

Doesn't seem quite right. There must be a "back door", somewhere.

Oh well.

Blogger Badger Brigadon March 17, 2017 6:24 PM  

"America’s courts only have power as long as people respect and believe and have confidence in the independence and integrity of those courts."

Fuck. Time to strap on a gun and go looking for crooks. The courts have zero power now.

Anonymous Trump-Democrat March 17, 2017 6:35 PM  


“So it’s an extraordinarily broad order. Its legal doctrine has no limits. If you keep extending this, it means people from around the world have a special right to access the United States, visit the United States, emigrate to the United States, get visas to the United States. There wouldn’t be any limit, and the president would never be able to control our own borders. It would be up solely to the whim of a federal judge who effectively delegated it, in this case, to a Muslim imam in Hawaii,”


A nation has to be able to control its own borders, the more I think about the idea of a literal wall, the more I like it

Anonymous W. Lindsay Wheeler March 17, 2017 7:29 PM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents wrote:Wheeler

Can you have a Family without a Father? You can't have a race/nation without a Monarch!

Is Switzerland a nation?


Switzerland is not a nation; it is a confederation of 4 different nationalities that used to keep to their cantons. (I see the other responses. Thanks.)

Since Switzerland isn't a nation, but a confederation, it doesn't need a monarchy but there is a Swiss aristocracy. I've met one. Switzerland is also small and in a very, very mountainous region which means that a republican form of government fits it. Each nationality should keep its place in its cantons though and preserve its local cultures. Some Italian city-states, like Venice and Florence and others could have republican city states. But then these city states were always the victims of kings. There was a King of Naples and a King of Sicily.

There is always an exception to the rule. Conditions, and culture dictate, but France, England, the German Tribes, the Scots, the Greeks, the Spanish all need to return to their kings. The Tudor form of government, mixed government, must be reconstituted for the English diaspora; a king for New Zealand, for Australia, Canada, and the US.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 17, 2017 8:35 PM  

Wheeler
France, England, the German Tribes, the Scots, the Greeks, the Spanish all need to return to their kings

LOL. Do you know what the definition of a "crank" is?

Blogger DonReynolds March 17, 2017 9:06 PM  

Vox is absolutely correct. Obey this insane court order and it is the end of the Federal government. Yes, you heard me. There are hundreds of judges and if ANY one of them can block a presidential decision, without legal authority or precedent, then the Federal government....certainly the Executive Branch, is effectively finished.
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We have seen challenges of this sort before but never where the courts sided with foreign citizens to frustrate presidential authority. During the 1930s until December 1941, there were a number of Nazi organizations active in the USA with thousands of members. See the German-American Bund article in Wikipedia.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund
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Historically speaking, the Executive branch had wide latitude in dealing with foreign agents of Germany and had the support of Congress and the Courts.
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In this particular case, the Courts seem to take the view that the Executive Order must be blocked BECAUSE the president is a bigot. While there is no proof of that accusation, it should be noted that there seldom is any proof when someone is accused by Leftist Liberals of being a bigot or a racist. Being accused is it's own proof. That was exactly my experience when accused of being a "rightist, racist, and conservative" in front of the city council by the local Leftist radicals. Why? Because I told them, the city was required to follow Texas state law and local ordinance. Following state law and local ordinance was PROOF that a person was unfit to be Director of Planning for the City of Kyle.

Blogger DonReynolds March 17, 2017 9:30 PM  

@94 a_peraspera
You are totally correct.
Save the serious ordinance for military use.
It is not necessary to destroy a city just to get at the "rebellious citizens", just shut off the electric power and the water will stop flowing. Without water, all resistance will cease in a matter of hours or days. Modern cities are virtually untenable and uninhabitable without electric power. No electricity means no water can be treated or pumped into the gravity-fed storage tanks. The water stored in the tanks will only last 24 to 36 hours at the most, less than that if there are any fires started by the rioters. The local fire department can empty the storage tanks overnight. (As an added plus, no electric power means none of the retail gasoline stations can dispense gasoline for vehicles or for Molotov cocktails.) Then you have the choice of accepting their surrender or leave them to expire of thirst. Even heroic measures are not going to yield enough water to keep a city.

Blogger DonReynolds March 17, 2017 9:43 PM  

@70 Grayman
This may be a good time to mention a word I have not heard in several years....RENDITION, which has been used by the US government to remove persons of interest to another country to satisfy the needs of American intelligence. Can a looney judge be removed and taken to the Ukraine or Poland or Libya or the Sudan or Gitmo? Certainly....especially if there is no official announcement, and there never is.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 17, 2017 11:38 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:Save the serious ordinance for military use.

It is not necessary to destroy a city just to get at the "rebellious citizens", just shut off the electric power and the water will stop flowing. Without water, all resistance will cease in a matter of hours or days.


Resistance pauses. What do we do with the liberal city dwellers and their two-legged pets? If we let them out, the resistance resumes, in more defensible locations.

Thermobaric ordnance seems an ideal solution to a liberal city.

Anonymous Discard March 18, 2017 4:09 AM  

95. Jack Ward: The "tar" used in tarring and feathering was not petroleum, but pine tar. The stuff used in roofing would have unfailingly killed the King's revenue agents by 3rd degree burns.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 18, 2017 9:06 AM  

In places like Philadelphia or Detroit, the number of those residents in the city who are sympathetic to the civilized citizenry will be negligible after a few days.

Blogger DonReynolds March 18, 2017 11:25 AM  

@141 Ominous Cowherd
You are correct, of course.
There is no possibility of rehab.
Separate the mad dogs from those who are not infected.
Dispose of the mad dogs.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 18, 2017 2:39 PM  

The Tudor form of government, mixed government, must be reconstituted for the English diaspora; a king for New Zealand, for Australia, Canada, and the US.

@136 W.LindsayWheeler
Donald Trump would be a natural pick for king, IMO.

Blogger JP March 18, 2017 8:15 PM  

We have seen challenges of this sort before but never where the courts sided with foreign citizens to frustrate presidential authority. During the 1930s until December 1941, there were a number of Nazi organizations active in the USA with thousands of members. See the German-American Bund article in Wikipedia.


Use infogalactic when you can. Interesting article. I noticed that they were using the same tactics against them as are being used against Trump. Incite violence at protests, then blame the victim for the violence. Also, use legal fishing expeditions to try to shut them down. Don't think that just because they were Nazis it's alright: the same shit was done to America First, who merely wanted to keep America out of the war, so that 400,000 Americans didn't die to make the world safe for communism.

The only reason it isn't working anymore is because the internet has brought free access to information. Looking back at history, it's clear how evil and manipulative such entities as the banks, judiciaries, and newspapers have been. Imagine how many fewer dead bodies there would have been with free access to information.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 20, 2017 5:24 PM  

@Troy Lee Messer

"Scientology sued the irs until it capitulated"

Actually, "it" didn't capitulate. The head of the IRS did-- because the Scientologists blackmailed him. A slightly different lesson. The battle was won by private detectives, not lawyers.

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