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Sunday, April 16, 2017

Mailvox: fighting antifa

A firsthand report from the Second Battle of Berkeley from a reader:
Those Nike batting helmets are light, but they work! I took a rock to the top of my head yesterday that probably would have had me out.We also tested it before the saturday with a could of good smacks to the sides and back with both dowels and 1x3s. The impact jerked your head, but it protected against the pain and did a reasonable job of getting the blow to skate along the curves of the helmet.

One of the folks there next to me wasn't wearing a helmet, and took a nasty smack in the head with a thrown full mini-can of soda. He recovered OK, but there was a LOT of blood. They have video of him getting treated.

Wear a helmet...even if you are fit and young. I armored up because I am slow, but even those fit madmen dodging rocks on the front line could use it.

...and VD, They did a fantastic job of keeping the lines together yesterday. They had folks watching for flanking and the berserkers (that's what those based millennials were fighting like...absolutely breathtaking) at the front were keeping an ear out for the yell to pull back when they smashed into the front lines of the very skinny antifa janissaries. There were only a few incidents of folks pushing too far and getting enveloped.

Gloves are necessary as well. I started out with my motorcycle gloves, but lost them when I took them off to put some gauze on the fellow how to smack with the soda. Even though I didn't take a hit in the hands, I still learned why I needed them after the rally when I was heading back home. I didn't get pepper sprayed directly, but I did go through the clouds a couple of times and helped a few guys holding their head back when they were getting their eyes washed out. Pepper spray residue was all over my hands and when I took off my mask, helmet and goggles, I instinctively wiped my lips. Noob mistake that would have been mitigated if I was wearing gloves. I'm glad there were no cameras to capture my "it's too spicy" dance.
Good to know that there are some tactically-aware leaders taking charge, and that people are following their directions. Discipline plus preparation plus leadership usually equals victory. I noticed the discipline right away in the first videos I'd seen; it's far more important that everyone is on the same page than for anyone to engage in individual heroics or pursue optimal tactical objectives.

It was also significant to see that the tanks were going after the antifa leaders. Remember, antifa is all offense, so the leaders are not expecting to engage in any direct conflict themselves. The wedgies were a nice touch; another effective humiliation is to tie their shoelaces together or to remove their belts and bind their ankles with them.

It seems to me there ought to be a bounty placed on antifa flags and masks. I certainly wouldn't mind having a flag or two to hang in my office as a trophy.

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Blogger Benjamin Kraft April 16, 2017 12:20 PM  

Place the bounty then, my man. Someone's sure to have flags to spare sooner or later.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 12:22 PM  

Antifa safari huh?

Blogger tuberman April 16, 2017 12:32 PM  

How about an antifa mask paired with a picture of the anifa's face, bounty goes up.

Anonymous Contaminated NEET April 16, 2017 12:35 PM  

This is the setup for a Law and Order episode.

Scary thuggish white supremacists beat and accidentally kill an idealistic good-looking young mixed-race protestor. It turns out they were motivated by a bounty a nerdy but dangerous internet extremist put on left-wing flags (forget about masks - we don't want to complicate the story unnecessarily). At first it looks like the internet hate-nerd is going to get away with it by misusing the Constitution, but our hero lawyers narrowly pull off a murder conviction.

The final scene shows the nerd in the prison rec-area, surrounded by a rapt audience of convicts, eagerly absorbing his hateful ideas. The sound cuts out, leaving the view to ponder the menace of hate speech in silence as the credits begin to roll.

Yes, I know L&O has been off the air for a decade, but it's a true masterwork of propaganda.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 16, 2017 12:40 PM  

The media always lies, and hates the Right. The Right will always be blamed for every bad thing, whether it happened or not, whether the Right was there or not.

In short, don't get too caught up in optics; you will be made to look bad regardless. Pay attention to our side's proven strategists, and try to be effective.

Blogger Johnny April 16, 2017 12:44 PM  

Amazing to me where we are with this stuff. It is like the virus that infects European Politics has spread to the United States.

Blogger Dave April 16, 2017 12:49 PM  

Those Nike batting helmets are light, but they work! I took a rock to the top of my head yesterday that probably would have had me out.

There is an OSHA approved hard hat that has the shape of a cowboy hat. Nobody will ever mistake it for a 10 gal Stetson but it won't be as conspicuous as a batting helmet or other types of helmets. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cowboy+hard+hat

Baseball bump hats are also available along with padded liners and plastic inserts that can be inserted into a baseball hat. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=baseball+bump+hat&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Abaseball+bump+hat

Blogger Dave April 16, 2017 12:54 PM  

Or go with the patriotic themed hard hat. That way you'll have a ready excuse for wearing it. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=patriotic+hard+hat&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Apatriotic+hard+hat

Blogger Koanic April 16, 2017 1:03 PM  

James LaFond predicts
a Haymarket Bombing redux from these Trump street fights, thereby cementing Fedcoat opposition to Trumpers.

Therefore he advocates meeting privately and building a neighborhood watch of men to provide the simple criminal deterrence of someone patrolling.

Is this defeatism or historical foresight? Are things different now and if so why?

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 16, 2017 1:11 PM  

And this is deep in enemy territory too. Well done!

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 1:15 PM  

Hype Much?? Good lord, Vox, is this what you have stooped to...Attempting to make this into something it's not for the purpose of generating some kind of sympathy. No wonder Cernovich got his ass kicked.

it tells us all something when the Alt Right begins to revel in conjured martyrdom.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 1:17 PM  

"There is an OSHA approved hard hat that has the shape of a cowboy hat."

Oh. Hey! That's actually kinda nifty. Thanks. Wouldn't wear it where I actually expected a fight (keep it round and slippery), but I can see scenarios where I would like to have that.

Anonymous Roundtine April 16, 2017 1:18 PM  

I like that black cowboy hardhat. American Cowboy Fash.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 1:24 PM  

Even looks like my preferred Woolrich Outback hat.

Blogger Elmer Jones April 16, 2017 1:27 PM  

The dread-chick getting punched belies the claim that women can perform in combat just like the men. The leftist media is now bemoaning the fact that a Trump supporter punched a girl.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 16, 2017 1:28 PM  

@9 Sounds very defeatist to me. If we listened to those who continually advise caution above all else we would be continually retreating.

Some variation on the Haymarket Bombing is certainly possible, and one important countermeasure is to be on the lookout for nutcases and agents provacateurs. The feds' incitement of violence and entrapment techniques are well known on the right and IMO people are instinctively looking out for this sort of thing.

Blogger praetorian April 16, 2017 1:28 PM  

I noticed the discipline right away in the first videos I'd seen; it's far more important that everyone is on the same page than for anyone to engage in individual heroics or pursue optimal tactical objectives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLqx8xF9Pw

Merchandising idea:

This helmet

https://www.amazon.com/Nike-Breakout-2-0-Baseball-Helmet/dp/B0198J93JC

w/ "Make America Great Again" stenciled on it.

Blogger praetorian April 16, 2017 1:30 PM  

The leftist media is now bemoaning the fact that a Trump supporter punched a girl.

Alinsky, pick up line two.

Alinsky, pick up line two.

Anonymous User April 16, 2017 1:33 PM  

Music will take this to the next level. Even simple drums are great, but who hasn't dreamed of cracking heads to the soaring cries of the pipes?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 16, 2017 1:40 PM  

CharlieB wrote:it tells us all something when the Alt Right begins to revel in conjured martyrdom.
Tghe fact that you can possibly call this post, which is a celebration of a bunch of alt-Right and alt-Lite finally stepping up and beating back the brownshirts, a "revel in conjured martyrdom" reveals your dishonest approach and willingness to lie to yourself to maintain your idiot narrative.

Anonymous Sharrukin April 16, 2017 1:45 PM  

5. Ominous Cowherd

In short, don't get too caught up in optics; you will be made to look bad regardless.

Exactly.

People in general will follow the winner and the propaganda as to how it was all moral and fated to be will be manufactured as needed.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 16, 2017 1:48 PM  

Good job, based lowercaseb. My hat - armored or not - is off to you brother.

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 1:49 PM  

Snidely, try to imagine exactly how little I think of the notions that spill from your small, tainted mind.....ok...got that? Now reduce it by half.

The thirst for Alt Righr martyrdom apparently can't. be slaked

Anonymous Steve Canyon April 16, 2017 1:49 PM  

Gator Gloves. Use them on oil rigs. Hand protection and still retain the ability to grip anything slick

Anonymous Steve Canyon April 16, 2017 1:50 PM  

Gator grip hexarmor gloves. Use them on oil rigs. Hand protection and still retain the ability to grip anything slick

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 16, 2017 1:53 PM  

CharlieB wrote:Snidely, try to imagine exactly how little I think of the notions that spill from your small, tainted mind.....ok...got that? Now reduce it by half.

The thirst for Alt Righr martyrdom apparently can't. be slaked

So, you admit you have no actual response. which figures. You have a Narrative "alt-Right are losers" and everything must be tied into that Narrative. So antifa getting their skinny butts kicked by alt-Right must mean that alt-Right are losers.
You have no more contact with reality than a menopausal woman.

Anonymous Peter #0231 April 16, 2017 1:54 PM  

@23:

You might not be tall enough for this ride.

Please try harder and do better. We've become accustomed to a certain level of trolling, and you're just not cutting it.

Blogger The Deplorable Ken Ramsey April 16, 2017 1:55 PM  

Already happened. Trump forces were playing The Battle Hymn Of The Republic as they were smashing the antifa at Berkeley.

Anonymous Sharrukin April 16, 2017 1:58 PM  

23. CharlieB

The thirst for Alt Righr martyrdom

Except it was the Antifa thugs who got to be the martyrs this go around.

http://www.returnofkings.com/119492/antifa-gets-destroyed-by-right-wing-safety-squads-in-berkeley

Anonymous DarkEden April 16, 2017 2:05 PM  

Charlie B your talking points are out of date. Please return to HQ at your earliest convenience for an update. Thank you.

Anonymous Mike April 16, 2017 2:14 PM  

"skinny antifa janissaries"

Ha! Perfect.

Anonymous Rigel Kent April 16, 2017 2:15 PM  

CharlieB wrote:Hype Much?? Good lord, Vox, is this what you have stooped to...Attempting to make this into something it's not for the purpose of generating some kind of sympathy. No wonder Cernovich got his ass kicked.

it tells us all something when the Alt Right begins to revel in conjured martyrdom.

To crush my enemies before me and hear the lamentations of their women brings me joy.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) April 16, 2017 2:17 PM  

Stop touching the poop

Blogger Keyser Soze April 16, 2017 2:17 PM  

Watching the video, one could hear "hold the line".
Excellent work on guarding the flanks.
A good performance, one worth studying.

Time to cry "havoc"? Not yet, but soon.....

Anonymous CJ April 16, 2017 2:17 PM  

Amazing to me where we are with this stuff. I̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ the virus that infects European Politics has spread to the United States.

Anonymous Peter #0231 April 16, 2017 2:21 PM  

@32:

"To crush my enemies before me and to hear the blubbering of their land whales"

There. Fixed it for ya!

Blogger Wolfman at Large April 16, 2017 2:21 PM  

@19 We need a metal cover of March of Cambreadth. For the good of Western Civilization.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 16, 2017 2:25 PM  

It seems to me there ought to be a bounty placed on antifa flags and masks. I certainly wouldn't mind having a flag or two to hang in my office as a trophy.

Bro, come on. WeSearchr. I'll put in $100 on day one.

Anonymous Sharrukin April 16, 2017 2:25 PM  

37. Wolfman at Large

@19 We need a metal cover of March of Cambreadth. For the good of Western Civilization.

NO. No. The original is just fine. What is the fascination with metal 'music'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA

Blogger Eric Slate April 16, 2017 2:32 PM  

Talking about our own casualties within the context of the wider victory makes sense. No amount on rhetoric update can defeat a prepared, aware mind. SJW always lie. SJW always project. Thanks for giving us another stick with which to beat you.

Blogger JaimeInTexas April 16, 2017 2:33 PM  

It sounds like 1st generation warfare.

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 2:36 PM  

"You might not be tall enough for this ride"

You can be as intellectually short as Snidely and still see a call for attention through conjured martyrdom.

Blogger Koanic April 16, 2017 2:39 PM  

Maybe LaFond's scenario is a loser for the Fedcoats because McVeigh's precedent of avenging Ruby Ridge establishes a credible threat against their style of escalation on BS pretext.

So these protesters are acting beneath the shield of McVeigh types. And McVeigh's ability to know about Ruby Ridge depended on the Internet's superiority vs newspapers to reveal the truth about complex events and sustain decentralized citizen outrage.

So the non-lethal street battles are a dare to the Communist state to either escalate villainously or look unfashionably weak.

LaFond doesn't understand the Internet due to generation gap, so that would explain why he doesn't understand the viability of this strategy.

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 2:40 PM  

"Talking about our own casualties within the context of the wider victory makes sense"

What about hit points? I don't think it was ever more clear that the Alt Right was made up of Cernoviches and other boys who never graduated from adolescence.

Anonymous Sharrukin April 16, 2017 2:43 PM  

42. CharlieB

conjured martyrdom.

You do realize that it is the police and state power protecting you and your fellow leftist scum from the rightists and what you truly deserve?

They aren't protecting us, they are protecting you.

You understand that... right?

Blogger JimR April 16, 2017 2:55 PM  

Cold steel makes a nice training buckler. grab two, purely defensive.

https://www.amazon.com/2009948-Cold-Steel-Medieval-Buckler/dp/B006YBXYYS

Anonymous Chester A. Arthritis April 16, 2017 2:59 PM  

I saw one Trump supporter wearing a lacrosse helmet. In addition to being incredibly strong, they also trigger leftists like nothing else. It would be even better if they were in Duke colors.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 3:13 PM  

47. Chester A. Arthritis April 16, 2017 2:59 PM
It would be even better if they were in Duke colors.



except, you know, then you'd be wearing Duke colors.

maybe if you had the logo redone as "White Devils"?

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 3:25 PM  

@Sharrukin

The Rightist couldn't muster a legitimate attack on anyone, let alone Leftists, if life depended upon it. All they have are a few hyper hormones men still grasping to adolescence.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 3:28 PM  

https://media.giphy.com/media/wi8srTXLsVgyI/giphy.gif


aw yiss, the Brownshirts NEVER accomplish anything.

Blogger Elizabeth April 16, 2017 3:32 PM  

And a good time was had by all .. the pro-Trump forces.

I'd like to sock that bimbo.

Truly glorious.

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 16, 2017 3:41 PM  

The masks are a nice prize, but I'd like to see a web page with faces, with names and addresses. Something people can link to when mom and dad want to know where all that college money is going.

Anonymous Looking Glass April 16, 2017 3:43 PM  

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/65m7v7/the_donald_condensed_into_a_single_photo/

My personal favorite picture of the day.

As to the idiotic poo flinger: Wop wop.

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 16, 2017 3:46 PM  

It sounds like 1st generation warfare.

The problem is it won't be long before people start getting serious.

And it all could have been headed off if the cops had just done their damn jobs early on.

Blogger J Van Stry April 16, 2017 3:47 PM  

@11
No, it means people are finally starting to fight back against evil again. After decades of looking the other way and letting evil flourish, they've finally had enough and are taking a stand.
And the black brigade and the antifa -are- evil. Through and through, to the core. Until they're done away with, things are not going to improve.

Blogger J Van Stry April 16, 2017 3:52 PM  

@54 The cops are doing their jobs. Their job is to support the government and do what the government tells them to do. They are NOT there to protect the people.
And the government of Berkley has told them to side with the black brigade and the Antifa, so that's what the cops are doing.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 3:54 PM  

53. Looking Glass April 16, 2017 3:43 PM
My personal favorite picture of the day.



i can't understand why that doofus is holding a Pepsi can.

Indra Noohi needs a helicopter ride.

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 4:02 PM  

Good video of trump lines moving in. Antifa chick gets layed out at 0:30

https://youtu.be/-ZVbXhHXkdc

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 4:05 PM  

Goog vidro of ttump lines moving in.
Antifa chick gets dropped at 0:30

https://youtu.be/-ZVbXhHXkdc

Anonymous Lucy van Pelt April 16, 2017 4:06 PM  

Aw don't be upset CharlieB, I promise I'll let you kick the ball this time. Trust me.

Anonymous Mathias April 16, 2017 4:08 PM  

@57,

Pepsi recently did an ad set in the Berkeley protests, where a can of Pepsi is depicted as stopping a fight between the right and antifa. Needless to say, it was not well received.

Anonymous CharlieB April 16, 2017 4:15 PM  

Good grief.

Blogger Elizabeth April 16, 2017 4:18 PM  

Regarding body protection, what about a kevlar vest and knee pads? I'm thinking of military gear.

A loaded M-16 would be helpful, too.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 16, 2017 4:22 PM  

@43 Koanic

Dude, you have too many facts wrong. Waco, just for a start, Ruby Ridge not so much.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab April 16, 2017 4:24 PM  

Good job kicking their diseased ridden, parasite infested behinds. What is permissible as shields? I'm thinking something you can grip in the middle and painted with American flags.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 16, 2017 4:24 PM  

There won't be anyone carrying guns openly in California.
Even Berkeley cops will get out of their car for that arrest.

Blogger VD April 16, 2017 4:25 PM  

i can't understand why that doofus is holding a Pepsi can.

He's making fun of the Kendall Jenner commercial. Perfect.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 4:42 PM  

ah, okay.

you young whippersnappers and your pop culture references.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 16, 2017 4:42 PM  

they also trigger leftists like nothing else. It would be even better if they were in Duke colors.

Lacrosse is the sport of Chads. That's why it triggers hard.

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 4:44 PM  

So far the leftist are behaving as you would expect. The parallels to the spanish civil still fit.
The right is learning fast. Ballistic type helmets are becoming fairly common and saw multiple people in motorcycle body armor. Some good initial team work, and antifa seems to lose interest very quickly once they face determined oppodition

Anonymous BbigGayKoranBurner April 16, 2017 4:44 PM  

This is the setup for a Law and Order episode.

((((Chicgongo PD))) had a blond Roosh that taught men how to rape with drugs. Blond rapists couldn't even pick up a niggerette with their game.

To crush my enemies before me and hear the lamentations of their women brings me joy

Its getting hard to recognize which are female.

And McVeigh's ability to know about Ruby Ridge depended on the Internet's superiority vs newspapers to reveal the truth about complex events and sustain decentralized citizen outrage.

All leftists know about WACO and Ruby Ridge they learned from watching Madame Secretary.

The Rightist couldn't muster a legitimate attack on anyone

A couple of bubbas with tannerite could cut off power to any DieVerse City and then the free stuff nigarmy would tear it apart!

Anonymous Brick Hardslab April 16, 2017 4:48 PM  

Bagpipes and drums! What would trigger the little darlings more, Garryowen, Amazing Grace, AC/DC?

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 4:49 PM  

One reason I went for the red helmet was to make sure that I had a side clearly identifiable in the chaos. Having those red hats and patriotic colors really helped in keeping folks together and know where to pull back to when the call to pull back is given. It's real easy to get tunnel vision when it's your turn to push out to the front.

I did have a choice of helmet options...but I think I chose wisely

https://gab.ai/LCB/posts/6887579

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 16, 2017 4:49 PM  

If you got space the old belt buckle on a flexible belt trick is ok, make sure your pants fit though.

Blogger praetorian April 16, 2017 4:50 PM  

Noam Chomsky had this one figured out, billashills:

"When we move to the arena of violence, the most brutal guys win - and that's not us."

I wonder if this is how it went down in the 1930s. Really makes you think.

Blogger Dave April 16, 2017 5:01 PM  

@lowercaseb

Thanks for the report and kudos for standing in that line. Did you go with a group? Was there communication beforehand on tactics and strategery or did it develop organically?

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 16, 2017 5:04 PM  

J Van Stry wrote:@54 The cops are doing their jobs. Their job is to support the government and do what the government tells them to do. They are NOT there to protect the people.

And the government of Berkley has told them to side with the black brigade and the Antifa, so that's what the cops are doing.


Sure, there's a chain of command going up to an elected official. But the role of the police is first and foremost to maintain order. If they can't do that we don't need them.

Blogger Hobbes April 16, 2017 5:09 PM  

Reading that, the unspoken message that comes through is: "Hey! This street-fighting stuff is FUN! We need to do this more often!"

If I were an antifa leader, I wouldn't be too keen on getting my enemies "woke" to the the fun of cracking antifa skulls. But that's just me.

Anyway, logic doesn't seem to be their strong suit.

Anonymous map April 16, 2017 5:12 PM  

"metal reinforcement inside stocking caps"

What exactly is that?

The best that i can think of is a truck bed liner applied to various gear. They have do it yourself kits for this... like Monstaliner.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 16, 2017 5:15 PM  

Go back to the kiddy pool

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 5:16 PM  

"But the role of the police is first and foremost to . . ."

. . . compel people to appear in court.

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 5:16 PM  

Dave wrote:Thanks for the report and kudos for standing in that line. Did you go with a group? Was there communication beforehand on tactics and strategery or did it develop organically?

No...it was just me. That's why I was really making an effort in keeping aware of where the line was in relationship to where I was.

Every once in a while some one would pull over a group of folks to send them off to watch a flank, but it was mostly folks yelling out their observations. It might seem chaotic, but it really worked.

It didn't hurt that our side had the vets who knew what they were doing.

One thing I did notice was almost everyone checked their ego when it was "getting sporty" (I love that description) and followed instructions. Commanders arose organically. I think that was because the hardercore-than-thou showboaters and lone wolves charged out too far in the beginning of the rally and got swallowed and spit out by antifa.

I will give antifa credit. They can keep their lines together and pivot rapidly. They are great and feints and flank attacks...but they are a paper tiger. They fold under a push. The only thing that was stopping our side was the pepper spray and the occasional rock that actually hit.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 16, 2017 5:19 PM  

Oh Charlie, poor, deluded, cuck offices Charlie, you leftists lost the fight in one of your strongholds, with police protection and weapons to an opponent that had none of the above. Yet you still think you can win.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 16, 2017 5:21 PM  

He's trolling the Pepsi commercial.

Anonymous BBGKB April 16, 2017 5:30 PM  

Imagine what the world would look like if all liberals worked as hard as this belt. #Berkeley
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9gZYUaVYAAduJ4.jpg

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 5:35 PM  

BBGKB wrote:Imagine what the world would look like if all liberals worked as hard as this belt.

damnit...that had me laughing until I ached.

Blogger Unknown April 16, 2017 5:37 PM  

it tells us all something when the Alt Right begins to revel in conjured martyrdom.

Conjured martyrdom - the fight to the death that saves nothing. A schoolyard army for a Western Civilisation that isn't. Reminds me of the bugs bunny cartoon where Elmer Fudd gets stuck on a rapidly deflating and shrinking rubber dinghy until only his big toe is balancing on it. Like the All Trite he sinks heroically into inconsequence to chuckles everywhere. I think he even gave the same tinpot salute. So funny.

Blogger TM Lutas April 16, 2017 5:47 PM  

@75 there's a great opportunity in defining terms for what behavior by the police constitutes an abrogation of their duty to protect the public. It's a conversation that's asked of the police off the streets. There are really no good answers for that when the politicians are telling them to let one side or another bleed. Talking about it ahead of time, when there are no instructions converts the narrative from cops vs protestors to cops last week vs cops today.

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 5:54 PM  

@85 TN

There have been multiple supreme court cases that have decided that the police have no duty to protect citizens. Their only duty is to investigate crime.

I think that clears thing right up.

Anonymous Millenium April 16, 2017 6:01 PM  

GET SOME GROIN PROTECTION. No point getting your nuts ruptured by a groin kick.

Secondly, go and try out all your armor and weapon ideas BEFORE you use them in a fight. Go and punch the heavy bag with a carabiner. Smash a stick over your planned headwear and see if it cracks. Then put it on your head and let your friend smash a stick over your head.


The dread-chick getting punched belies the claim that women can perform in combat just like the men. The leftist media is now bemoaning the fact that a Trump supporter punched a girl

She has done porn. There are pics and vids. While the media spins her as a victim we need to be showing photos of her hairy ass and her tweets saying she was going to get nazi scalps. Show her as the degenerate troublemaker she is. The real battle is winning the hearts and minds of middle america. Middle america is going to be subconsciously disgusted by a cute blond girl turning into a hairy, dreadlocked, tatted up skank who picks fights with men and then cries about it.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 6:07 PM  

87. Millenium April 16, 2017 6:01 PM
The real battle is winning the hearts and minds of middle america



which is why it needs to be pointed out that there is NOTHING WRONG WITH PUNCHING WOMEN. especially when she's physically attacking you.

this USED to be a nation in which it was acceptable for husbands to spank their wives. if you had caught her in bed with another man, you could kill them both and it would be justifiable homicide.

now, we're a nation of pansies.

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 16, 2017 6:08 PM  

TM Lutas wrote:@75 there's a great opportunity in defining terms for what behavior by the police constitutes an abrogation of their duty to protect the public. It's a conversation that's asked of the police off the streets. There are really no good answers for that when the politicians are telling them to let one side or another bleed. Talking about it ahead of time, when there are no instructions converts the narrative from cops vs protestors to cops last week vs cops today.

It's less about protecting individual people than maintaining order. From what I can tell there are a whole lot of people who refrain from raping and killing simply because the cops are there to keep them in line. There are far too many of these people for the police to deal with if too many of them get the idea there won't be any consequences for breaking the law.

Anonymous Steve Canyon April 16, 2017 6:19 PM  

Chain with a padlock for a belt

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 6:23 PM  

@87,

Her porn and before/after shots going from cute blonde to hairy freak are all over twitter, gab, and youtube

Anonymous logprof April 16, 2017 6:26 PM  

"The wedgies were a nice touch; another effective humiliation is to tie their shoelaces together or to remove their belts and bind their ankles with them."

--That right there put the cherry on top of Easter Sunday (pun intended)

Anonymous Grayman April 16, 2017 6:30 PM  

The right should bring zip ties and zip tie hogtied any antifa they subdue. A follow up team moves in, unmask and photographs their face.

Use restraint and don't beat them excessively, just enough to subdue and hogtie.

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 6:34 PM  

Antifa is learning and working to adapt already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/65m67k/the_troubling_implications_of_the_conflict_in/

Blogger Were-Puppy April 16, 2017 6:37 PM  

@25 Steve Canyon
Gator grip hexarmor gloves. Use them on oil rigs. Hand protection and still retain the ability to grip anything slick
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Those things look great! Would love to get a pair of them.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 6:50 PM  

"From what I can tell there are a whole lot of people who refrain from raping and killing simply because the cops are there to keep them in line."

The cops are there to compel them to appear in court. The court keeps them in line by assigning consequences. The police are the arm of the court. The court is law enforcement.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 6:51 PM  

put another way, she done got Mansplained.

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 6:57 PM  

one final thought before I head out. Here is an after action report from the reddit link above. It is full of great insight.

I hope you're all doing well today! I got home a couple hours ago after the riots and here are some thoughts that I would love to share with you guys.
We (ANTIFA) as a unit were so uncoordinated. We got choked off and split in two in the streets. We tried making a push back but no one was willing to fight INCLUDING ME which will be explained in a little bit. We had no strategy, no coordination and no communication. Everyone was in a sense on their own out there even though we were all together. I had to take my leave when I got pepper sprayed in the face and smoked out. I was holding the big black banner that some people have come to see and it seemed like no one was willing to stand with me and my 3 other comades who were holding the banner. Everyone was off doing there own thing which was VERY anti productive. That being said we got a couple good shots in. Some alt-right scum tried to rush us but we quickly retaliated and ganged up on them. However when we went into the streets, that's where it started going downhill. We almost got pushed up against the wall. Our efforts to form a true black bloc were almost non existant and the out right agression from the fascists prevented us from getting anything meaningful done.
Now onto why I was scared to fight. This was my first protest/riot and I was terrified. I like to think that I'm a really peaceful person and I am against the idea of violence so whenever I see someone get beat up, I would charge in but then proceed to freeze up. I have a feeling that some others were like this and I think it would be awesome to have some kind of motivation other than the thought of "If you a see a Nazi, punch him." This is just my thinking though.
ideas on how to fix these issues would simply be organizing a meet up before the protest to get a basic understanding of possible roles we would have or simple tactics to prevent a repeat of what happened today. I have contacted the Facebook page offering help in any way that I can. Let's hope they respond.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 7:07 PM  

"Now onto why I was scared to fight."

You're a pussy.

Blogger Elizabeth April 16, 2017 7:08 PM  

VD wrote:i can't understand why that doofus is holding a Pepsi can.

He's making fun of the Kendall Jenner commercial. Perfect.


His parody of the commercial was hilarious.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( c'mon, you knew it had to be true. it's like the first prerequisite for "Ich bin ein Fuhrer auf die Alt-Retard" ) April 16, 2017 7:10 PM  

I like to think that I'm a really peaceful person and I am against the idea of violence so whenever I see someone get beat up, I would charge in but then proceed to freeze up. I have a feeling that some others were like this and I think it would be awesome to have some kind of motivation other than the thought of "If you a see a Nazi, punch him."


*pinches brow of nose*


so MUCH stupid.

"'punch a nazi' isn't doing the trick, let's find a new narrative that does."

Blogger daddynichol April 16, 2017 7:20 PM  

Don't touch the poop.

Blogger daddynichol April 16, 2017 7:22 PM  

Stop plsying with the poop. Didn't anyone get the message?

Blogger Were-Puppy April 16, 2017 7:29 PM  

I can't respond to this for fear of violating the V ban HAHAHAHAAA

Blogger Were-Puppy April 16, 2017 7:30 PM  

@83 BBGKB
Imagine what the world would look like if all liberals worked as hard as this belt. #Berkeley
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This is what i meant

Blogger Mammon April 16, 2017 7:37 PM  

"One of the folks there next to me wasn't wearing a helmet, and took a nasty smack in the head with a thrown full mini-can of soda."

Was it pepsi by any chance? Maybe one from this dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3uhKxNPNg

Blogger Mountain Man April 16, 2017 7:40 PM  

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Blogger Lazarus April 16, 2017 7:42 PM  

lowercaseb wrote:one final thought before I head out. Here is an after action report from the reddit link above. It is full of great insight.



So some of them are just wearing black as a fashion statement, then. Good to know.

When Orange is their new black, we will know things are on the right track.

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Blogger Were-Puppy April 16, 2017 7:42 PM  

@98 lowercaseb

I had to take my leave when I got pepper sprayed in the face and smoked out. I was holding the big black banner that some people have come to see and it seemed like no one was willing to stand with me and my 3 other comades who were holding the banner.
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This antifag had some Komradds holding the banner, and didn't like getting pepper sprayed and smoke bombed? It was probably 100% friendly fire that got him too :P
Waaaa, mommy! I don't like my own medicine QQ




Some alt-right scum tried to rush us but we quickly retaliated and ganged up on them.
---
These must have been the guys who rushed into those antifa traps where they isolate and clubber

I'm tempted to change my name to "alt-right scum" :P


Now onto why I was scared to fight. This was my first protest/riot and I was terrified.
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That is the story in a nutshell. Apparently the rent-a-monkeys don't realize what they are in for when they face actual resistance. It's all fun and games beating up old ladies and little girls, but when some MAGA guys show up and start fighting back - TERROR!

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 7:43 PM  

kfg wrote:"Now onto why I was scared to fight."

You're a pussy.


You may be biologically right. The post certainly sounded like one of their fierce warrior women.

The most important thing is that even antifa realized that they done effed up yesterday.

Blogger Lazarus April 16, 2017 7:47 PM  

BBGKB wrote:Imagine what the world would look like if all liberals worked as hard as this belt. #Berkeley

OMG! Its a young Scalzi.

Blogger Roger G2 April 16, 2017 7:50 PM  

Antifa janissaries? Hahh, nice touch. So fitting.

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 7:51 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:I had to take my leave when I got pepper sprayed in the face and smoked out. I was holding the big black banner that some people have come to see and it seemed like no one was willing to stand with me and my 3 other comades who were holding the banner.

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This antifag had some Komradds holding the banner, and didn't like getting pepper sprayed and smoke bombed? It was probably 100% friendly fire that got him too :P


Actually, now that i think about it...you can see who this person is and the moment that they pussed out.

https://youtu.be/c8GVtXfATtI?t=112

check the left side of the screen and look for the skirmish with the (now wadded up) black banner. At least they got good cardio skills. I'd be wheezing if I had to run away so much.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 7:53 PM  

"You may be biologically right."

The expression refers to biological cats. It is a coincidence that it has since become one of the many extant animal euphemisms.

"The most important thing is that even antifa realized that they done effed up yesterday."

I have taken some heat here for pointing out that many of them will learn and some of them will even toughen up. There will be Ches and Maos, and we should prepare to deal with them.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy April 16, 2017 7:56 PM  

lowercaseb wrote:Antifa is learning and working to adapt already.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/65m67k/the_troubling_implications_of_the_conflict_in/

Hmm. Learning? Really?

purplepilled2 wrote:Sounds pretty sexist man. Gender is a social construct. Physical maneuvers inherently favor men and are thus tools of the patriarchy.
Somehow I don't think xe's cognitive enough to feel the dissonance there.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 7:58 PM  

And watching the video, it seems I wasn't the first to level the charge of "pussy." I wasn't touching the plastic poop, I was just reporting psychically.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Blogger Kona Commuter April 16, 2017 7:59 PM  

"This was my first protest/riot and I was terrified. I like to think that I'm a really peaceful person and I am against the idea of violence"

The Left are full of contradictions. "I'm a peaceful person but I joined a group with a track record for committing acts of violence to attack a group that was holding a pro free speech rally"

Blogger lowercaseb April 16, 2017 8:08 PM  

kfg wrote:I have taken some heat here for pointing out that many of them will learn and some of them will even toughen up. There will be Ches and Maos, and we should prepare to deal with them.

Very true...I'd rather overestimate and be proven wrong than vice versa, but I'm not going to let that keep me from taking the field. Not any more.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 8:09 PM  

Actually the Left has no contradictions per se. Their actions are very clearly based on a ideology that is at war with any right wing ideology, they want to reign supreme in the lands they occupy and either exterminate dissent or send to gulags. Their words really have no value, all their actions are of strategical importance towards their end goal. Who cares if I am fascist antifa, just as long as the perception of the battle is biased in a way that I am perceived as the good guy, thus ensuring that the right people will rule over the land, all will be fine.

Once you put in your mind that they are and have always been at war in their minds, then all their actions make perfect sense.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft April 16, 2017 8:11 PM  

@88. It's always been okay to hit women. It's not okay to hit ladies.

But then, ladies are the women that fall within certain parameters of behaviour, which do not contain physically attacking people, ever.

You attack people like a man, you get hurt and killed like a man, period.

Yes, women. If you expect the privileges and respect given to ladies, either behave like one, or prepare to learn that you're just another small, weak, slow and poorly trained man in the midst of a very brutal and uncaring world.

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 16, 2017 8:16 PM  

Millenium wrote:

The real battle is winning the hearts and minds of middle america. Middle america is going to be subconsciously disgusted by a cute blond girl turning into a hairy, dreadlocked, tatted up skank who picks fights with men and then cries about it.

The subconscious disgust is becoming conscious. The stark visual narrative of an archetypical fallen woman enters the global hive-mind. I confess to feeling bad for her. OTOH maybe it'll convince her and other young 'ladies', to straighten up and fly right.

Comment from the reddit link above:

There's nothing at stake for antifa besides their social media profiles. No one getting hauled into prison camps, no rights being infringed for them... the little rebel costumes and all that shit don't hide what everyone knows they are. They're kids, mostly weak, many female, college drop outs, many paid or doing it for college credit. You can hope for better outcomes but you can't change the fact that under it all there is no compelling message besides 'take selfies, wreck stuff'. The other side has their freedom to fight for and many of them have had years of military training to do just that.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy April 16, 2017 8:20 PM  

MongoJimmy wrote:Comment from the reddit link above:
That's written by someone on our side. See the last sentence.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 8:25 PM  

So, hmmmmm sarissas and syntagmas for the next rally then?

You just distribute these nice looking 40 foot long flap poles, strap some based shields in your arms... And read a book on syntagma tactics written in the 18th-19th century I can't remeber the name though.

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 8:26 PM  

"Their actions are very clearly based on a ideology that is at war with any right wing ideology . . ."

Fascist: anyone who isn't a Communist or an Anarchist.

"If you expect the privileges and respect given to ladies, either behave like one, or prepare to learn that you're just another small, weak, slow . ."

One of my common threats to women who insist on "being treated like a princess" is to do so.

Anonymous johnc April 16, 2017 8:27 PM  

Don't allow yourself to be dragged into futile "political discourse", because that is where you're most vulnerable to a sneak attack like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg

Truly, I think this is a battle that needs to be fought in the courts. I know it's expensive and there's no guarantee of victory (since the courts are rigged), but let's look at the situation with objectivity: A group had a permit for a peaceful rally. Counter protestors came and threw explosives into the rally several times, and the police did nothing. Don't try to tell me that's legal. IANAL of course but maybe some laws need to change.

What good is a right to assembly if another group can just come in and violently end it and not be charged for crimes?

Anonymous kfg April 16, 2017 8:31 PM  

"What good is a right to assembly if another group can just come in and violently end it and not be charged for crimes?"

What good are more laws that aren't enforced?

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 8:34 PM  

Johnc

Where is your youth bro?!? You assemble peacefully so you can start a huge brawl!!!

That is the whole point lol.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft April 16, 2017 8:40 PM  

@126. johnc, that's our point. If they can just get away with that at the policing level, they'll never even get to court in the first place.

It's simple. There are legitimate authorities and illegitimate ones. When the police, as the hand of the current authority fail to do their job, the courts as the arm also become illegitimate. When the authority becomes illegitimate the only correct (read: successful) answer is personal brutality, right up until open warfare begins.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft April 16, 2017 8:44 PM  

And to extrapolate, if the "authority" begins to come in actively on the opposition side, they also become necessary targets for destruction, by whatever necessary means, be it legal, financial, or force of arms.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky April 16, 2017 8:46 PM  

That reddit is quite the read. What a descent into the sick mind of the Left. The main irony was captured by the statement:

"Opposing fascism is always self-defense!"

That's coming from the mouth of man who is swimming in fascist waters completely unawares and that's bad enough, but worse is the rationalization. Violence against his enemies is always justified, always righteous, and never his fault.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 8:50 PM  

Yes, let the obvious fact these suckas want you dead flow through you.

And use it to crush them.

Think of this situation as you and them being siamese brothers... The problem is that you have all the organs and a fully formed brain. So the surgery will be bad for one of you...

Anonymous johnc April 16, 2017 8:53 PM  

Maybe I'm being naive but can't you sue for breach of civil rights and work your way up the court system through appeals? I know it's expensive and there are no guarantees, but a systemic problem needs a systemic solution. And melees aren't that.

The problem with "fighting back" is that they'll disproportionately throw one side in jail and ruin their lives.

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 16, 2017 9:06 PM  

In my view nothing precludes a lady from the use of violence and/or weapons should the appropriate occasion arise. The shootout at the bunker in The Outlaw Josey Wales comes to mind.

@Lurking Puppy I realized my quote was from one of ours. It was a succinct summation worthy of repetition is all.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 9:07 PM  

It wouldn't have the desired effects. You would either sue the organization or the people involved with violent acts. You would have to do thousands of times for people, and if you go after the organization, soros can cover the damage or they can just say that 99.99% of the people in black and that garden gnome are not part of their organization.

Your life will be ruined anyway if you don't stop them now so you really only have one choice... Fight!

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 16, 2017 9:19 PM  

@Lurking Puppy...or maybe it was an antifa who is in the process of growing a brain. One day I'll figure it all out. Carry on lads.

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 16, 2017 9:32 PM  

Communism... always one genocide away from Utopia. The abuse, violent assault, torture and execution of thought criminals is their essential philosophy. But hey, they mean well and that makes it all okay!

Blogger Thurston Pilgrim April 16, 2017 9:34 PM  

I'm still waiting for the caltrops to fall.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 16, 2017 9:36 PM  

The Klantifa reddit claims Based Stickman got arrested again.

Also they are talking about trying the 2-buddy system, building to blocks of 4 and so forth. Nothing new.

Blogger Basil Makedon April 16, 2017 9:58 PM  

Their reddit page is fascinating.

Blogger Kman April 16, 2017 10:21 PM  

Vox, Why are we letting our enemies choose the time,place and ROE? What's the 4GW approach to this? (I have some ideas of my own.) I foresee this as escalating to a bad end. Just a matter of time until the guns come out.

Anonymous Saracen III April 16, 2017 10:29 PM  

Well Done brothers. Ferocity in the attack and restraint in the victory. 2 things:

1 Ditch the face masks.
Sooner rather than later an antifa provocateur will commit an atrocity from your side of the fighting line. If you must use face protection get your name in big letters on your chest. Yes, you will be named and shamed and hounded from your livelihood and brought up in court. Live on your feet or die on your knees.

2 Get the police to choose a side.
This cannot be done by appeals to reason, duty or honor. Their only chink is their pride. Every confrontation needs to include concurrent public questions to the Chiefs of Police, SWAT commanders and scene commanders. "Is your training and equipment up to this size crowd?" "Are your resources needed elsewhere?" "Were you taken by surprise at the staging of this event?" Video their response. It doesn't matter what they say, deliberate non-response will make them look like total tits, both to the public and themselves. Get their faces live in the alt-news, and protect the camera crews asking the questions.

Blogger Lazarus April 16, 2017 10:46 PM  

Eduardo wrote:Your life will be ruined anyway if you don't stop them now so you really only have one choice... Fight!

So....which part of America do you live in, exactly, Eduardo? Will you be seen on the front lines anytime soon?

Blogger Lazarus April 16, 2017 10:51 PM  

johnc wrote:Truly, I think this is a battle that needs to be fought in the courts.

The ones that are rigged, like you admit? All you are saying is "this battle needs to be fought in a noble and futile manner".

That is super Cuck, dude.

Blogger Lazarus April 16, 2017 10:54 PM  

The NHL playoffs are on right now. They used to say, " If you can't beat them in the alley, you can't beat them on the ice". Since then, things have been pussified. But this still goes for american politics, apparently.

Anonymous Godfrey April 16, 2017 10:55 PM  

They're mainly Soros paid goons. Cut off the funding from their multi-billionaire backers and most of the "communists" would disappear overnight.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 16, 2017 10:55 PM  

I saw a whole lot of hamstring going on there.

Blogger Pseudotsuga April 16, 2017 11:05 PM  

JimR wrote:Cold steel makes a nice training buckler. grab two, purely defensive.
Purely defensive?
Yes, yes, Officer Smith--this is a SHIELD. I use it to protect myself. I can't punch or strike with this rigid material over my hand, because it is a defensive object, which I only use to protect myself, because it is a SHIELD...

(There are particular reasons that few Western Martial arts groups that use bucklers [such as the SCA] don't allow shield strikes in their combat systems...)

Blogger Robohobo April 16, 2017 11:11 PM  

Take a bunch of wire tie wraps - 1/4" wide and 14" long. Hog tie the ones you catch and leave them in the street for animal pickup.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 11:19 PM  

@143

Which part? Lazarus Lazarus, oh great man that have been brought from the dead, you allow me a avenue in which I can maneuver. I obviously live in South... America XD.

But still, I am not telling JohnC to go kill himself, each of us have our own Cross to carry. Yours is to fend off these twink ninjas mine is... Being Brazilian...

Obviously I gotta a great work cut out for me since according to Saint Mosby... I am a nigger and I dindu nuffins.

But if I was American... Absolutely!!! How can I pass this awesomeness of a moment, the feeling of accomplishing a page turner in History! You can see that on the Trump supporter side, how can anyone not want to be part of that: a rebirth in American pride! But since I am not...

So yeah I am sorry, I guess I came out as patronizing poor JohnC, I am just arguing to him that the choice he seeks to use is ineffective due the constraints of the system. But personally I think he doesn't want to fight quite yet, and that is fine by me.

Anonymous johnc April 16, 2017 11:21 PM  

The ones that are rigged, like you admit? All you are saying is "this battle needs to be fought in a noble and futile manner".

Is every court in the nation rigged up to the Supreme Court? If that's the case don't expect to get a fair criminal trial either when you punch someone out.

But you generally don't see this kind of stuff in other places, even Seattle. In those areas, police actually do their jobs, for the most part.

The problem at Berkeley is not antifa. The problem is the city management, and that's what needs to be rectified.

That is super Cuck, dude.

How many punches did you get in btw?

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 16, 2017 11:22 PM  

Ku Klux Klantifa

Great meme, deplorable. Could be a good chant and/or visual for triggering the pinkos.

Anonymous Sharrukin April 16, 2017 11:25 PM  

We have already seen the courts openly engage in rendering political judgments banning Trumps immigration bans, Obamacare being declared a tax and many other examples.

The courts are lost to the left and the Neocons by and large. They will not save anyone, or avert what is coming.

Another point for the fastidious...Nathan Damigo, the puncher at Berkeley who was ungentlemanly enough to lay his hands on a 'lady' without her express permission is a white supremacist and served five years in prison for armed robbery.

Be prepared to toss out the Marquess of Queensberry rules and the idea that those in the thick of the fight will be philosophy majors and brilliant entrepreneurs.

English football hooligans will be more useless and more likely.

Blogger 30yearProf April 16, 2017 11:27 PM  

Get a real one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ARMY-USAF-MILITARY-PASGT-KEVLAR-COMBAT-HELMET-MED-M-1-NICE-/332179946953

Blogger Robert Divinity April 16, 2017 11:29 PM  

2 Get the police to choose a side.

The police chose a side when the Antifa were unopposed and not hindered from committing violence. Now that there are two sides, the state actors no longer can avert their eyes and maintain a faux neutrality. The police now have to side with those who don't instigate violence but certainly can answer it in short order, not because they are good people but because inaction very well might lead to widespread assault and death.

Blogger Jim April 16, 2017 11:36 PM  

Wear a mouth guard.

Anonymous Eduardo April 16, 2017 11:46 PM  

The comments on the Berkeley Police Department are pretty fun on google. Their rate is 1.4 as Of now and guess why they are one staring the dump out of it...

Maybe they need more one stars.

Blogger Greg Hunt April 16, 2017 11:53 PM  

Instapundit linked to this blogpost. The word is getting out.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper April 17, 2017 12:02 AM  

johnc wrote:Truly, I think this is a battle that needs to be fought in the courts. I know it's expensive and there's no guarantee of victory (since the courts are rigged), but let's look at the situation with objectivity:

The difference between the Leftist courts and the AntiFa is costume.

Blogger Unknown April 17, 2017 12:12 AM  

chest protector under your shirt for flying objects,weighted gloves for more punishing blows and protection against cuts and scraps and of course the baseball helmet to protect your head against injury (very important)
ps a billy club or ax handle works miracles against antifah scum

Anonymous 6184 April 17, 2017 12:23 AM  

As a veteran, a couple of the posters in the Reddit have me slow-simmering: Old Wob, whoever you are, a free helicopter ride should be your date.

Guy reminds me of the occasional oddball commie that I have bumped into at the range: vile neighbor-slaying civilizational-termite scum. The kinda guy the gets off to Black Flag's Family Man. The kind of guy that desperately needs to be on a personal to-do list.

The rest of these assholes are going to regret waking the bear and not understanding how the normies view them.

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Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 17, 2017 12:27 AM  

@159 They both wear black, don't they? For the Right to stake its hopes on victory in the courts in the current year would be the height of stupidity. And yes, that still includes the Supreme Court.

Blogger Koanic April 17, 2017 12:41 AM  

Dude, you have too many facts wrong. Waco, just for a start, Ruby Ridge not so much.

"What the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge was dirty," McVeigh says. "And I gave dirty back to them at Oklahoma City."

I did not comment on the importance of Waco vs Ruby Ridge to McVeigh. I omitted the former because I despise Koresh. If that is your best example of an incorrect fact, then I doubt the rest.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky April 17, 2017 12:41 AM  

Sure the "exhaust every legal means" strategy is good. Pursue it. Who do you sue, the City of Berkeley? Maybe Landmark Legal Foundation or somebody will take that up. Good luck to them. Realize that the outcome is a total crapshoot, maybe even one with the dice loaded against us, and it will take YEARS for resolution, IF we're lucky and we keep moving up through the appeals courts, as it will probably require.

Meanwhile back on the front, what to do? Here we had a peaceful free speech rally and antifa showed up and started throwing M60s into it. That's how it began. At that point the police disappeared, which should tell you something right there about how we're going to fare in the judicial system. Antifa was given "space to destroy" - unfortunately our guys were in it.

I saw the video of Lauren Southern trying to talk to that antifa chick with the strange eyebrows. Crazy Eyebrow Chick struck first, swiping at a shocked Lauren while proclaiming, "I want to fight a white girl today!"

Then there was the guy down on his knees with both hands up, trying to protect some Trump women, and an antifa brained him with a bicycle U-lock. Sent the guy to the hospital with blood streaming. Could have killed him.

We need to keep capturing this imagery of antifa aggression. Use your smartphone as the real weapon it is and document that stuff and get it out there so people can see. Show them what the media and the law enforcement/judicial system WILL NOT show them.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 17, 2017 12:48 AM  

@163 Koanic
I did not comment on the importance of Waco vs Ruby Ridge to McVeigh. I omitted the former because I despise Koresh.

Vernon Howell was despicable. That doesn't make murder under color of law acceptable. Contrary to common belief, Howell's crimes didn't justify anything the BATF, the FBI and certain other agencies did there. Omitting Waco as one of McVeigh's main motivators is an attempt to rewrite history. Trying to write the Waco massacre out of history is not acceptable.

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Blogger lowercaseb April 17, 2017 1:04 AM  

johnc wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg

this sounds shallow, but I now know where my gloves went. It turns out I was wrong. That was the fellow I thought got brained with a mini can of coke. Turns out I was very wrong and it was a U-lock. Freaking tunnel vision on my part.

That guy was fearless throughout the fight up until he got taken out. He was up in the front consistently through the day.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 17, 2017 1:05 AM  

"Contrary to common belief, Howell's crimes..."

Did he even commit any crimes? According to Waco: The Rules of Engagement the McLennan County Sheriff at the time didn't think so.

Anonymous Anonymous April 17, 2017 1:12 AM  

The tide is finally turning!

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable April 17, 2017 1:16 AM  

OT: I was right. Money vs. culture is a category error, and the Visegrád Group will not be so easily pushed around.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 17, 2017 1:43 AM  

SciVo de Plorable wrote:OT: I was right. Money vs. culture is a category error, and the Visegrád Group will not be so easily pushed around.

From the article:
"Italy, along with Germany, Sweden, Austria, and France have been vocal in demanding the EU cut subsidies to Hungary and Poland for their refusal to welcome migrants."

At what point does EU membership become a net loss?

Blogger lowercaseb April 17, 2017 1:50 AM  

Two really good quotes from the Antifa reddit thread I missed the last time. This first one is a little scary

SubjectiveOwl 27 points 1 day ago

They should have passed out fliers the last week in migrant and non white communities detailing the very real existential threat fascism poses to their communities. It seems like 90% of the protestors were white. Why?

If they did that there would be a lot more knives on their side and possibly a few guns. However I think they would have run first chance they got.

and here is a quote from the one guy on their side that gets it:

At the end of the day, none (or at least very few of us) are soldiers and to expect us to be able to act like them on demand is not reasonable. The push for more training is understandable but that's not conducive to a movement of free association like antifa. At that point you have a core of people that can be targeted and attacked or arrested. One of the great strengths of antifa is that there is no central group or leadership to target.

Instead I feel we would be better served by looking at events individually and seeing areas where two or three people can make a difference; grab a flag, knock out a sound system, punch Richard Spencer, disrupt communication, slash tires, disable trucks, tear down signs, etc. We don't necessarily need to own the street at the end of the day, we need to cause aggravation and frustration, drain resources, make people lose their tempers and put on a show for the cameras. Whenever possible, they should throw the first punch.

Standard black bloc tactics are not going to work against neo-nazis. Black blocs work great against cops who fight as a unit and emphasize staying together. Neo-nazis and fascists are willing to fight as individuals. We can't handle resisting neo-nazis the same way we handle resisting police, the two groups move and fight differently.

That's going to mean that a lot of confrontations are going to be dust-ups rather than shoving matches and we should be ready for that; get in fighting shape, learn to box, invest in some comfortable shin and forearm guards, practice breaking out of holds, etc. We need to refresh on how to deal with pepper spray (50/50 unflavored liquid antacid and water).

The last two paragraphs are the most telling. They wanted shoving matches while they pelted us with rocks. We took it to them en mass and they had nothing in response. Also notice the part about bearbaiting for the camera. Our side managed to keep their cool until it was time not to.

This is going to happen again...Mayday is going to be a bitch this year.

Anonymous Anonymous April 17, 2017 1:54 AM  

It's too bad they can't be sold into bondage.

Anonymous Saracen III April 17, 2017 2:24 AM  

@155 The police chose a side when the Antifa were unopposed

Absolutely correct. And yet.
http://ucpd.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/styles/openberkeley_image_full/public/general/bennett_as_chief_0.jpg
Milo did not cancel his Berkeley event. UCPD Chief Margo Bennet did so when her officers shut out attendees, rioters and victims alike. I am looking to put a bad taste in the line officer's mouth every time that happens.

Individual LEOs serve for a variety of reasons: glamour, paycheck, camaraderie, duty. There are many good ones but few Serpicos and if things get crazy the Blue Mist descends and unit cohesion takes precedence. Escalation is the Antifa objective. Things will get crazy and Afterwards is Too Late The rightness of our cause needs to be in the heads of the Blue Crew before that happens, so capture the pomposity and self-serving of the Chiefs and pin it on their badges. We could call it "The Margo Bennet Experience".

Anonymous Eduardo April 17, 2017 2:35 AM  

As Randy Savage would say: Uuuuuhhh Yeaah! The black bloc work great against police XD. Riiiight.

Let me tell ya how the Black Bloc operated in 2013-2014 here in Brazil and how they have disappeared from the streets. Here we go, same old same old, our beloved middle class and idiots from universities or leftist achool systems took the streets in their black uniforms destroying public property, the little that is left that the day-by-day vandals haven't destroyed; annnd destroying banks, because that is how you destroy capitalism, obviously!

They said clearly that there would be no peace and no negotiation with the police, and indeed never were such things. The rest of the Bozos in the left in order to cover their violence and uncivilized manner came up with all sort of stupid theories as to why they were doing it, obviously unconscious explanations show up like that they were being violent because they couldn't be capitalists and were frustated.

The Brazilian Black Bloc is as expected way more violent and wayyyy bigger than anything you guys 've seen so far. We are talking thousands of idiots in black and tons of them armed with blades and fireworks.

Brazilian police unlike Berkeley's police will use violence, oh boy, violence is the tactics du jour every jour with the shock troops. They started using paintball guns to mark the violent people and arrest them, of coirse the justice system is a piece of trash so nothing ever happened but please do, use paint balloons so everybody knows the ones who already committed some act of violence, hence allowing others to get a heads up.

Black Blocs in Brazil however hate the Media, so one nice protest day, some kids decided to light up the fireworks against the Media and the Police, as always. This time the firework hit the mark and murdered a cameraman, and boom, the down fall of these black imbeciles has began. The police escalated the violence to lethal and killed three black blocs, and as usual arrested a ton of them. Masks were considered illegal to be used in protests short after, so without the anonimaty and now with innocent blood in their hands, blood that they pretented to be protecting, the blood of a poor man, the black blocs started to dissappear and soon not even the Left wanted them.

These Twinkie Ninjas are nobodies, they are nowhere near the amount of violence we saw here and yet the idiot thinks they work great against cops. You work great against nice cops junior, if American Police went Brazil on your asses, you would be licking your wounds for days and days.

Typical Leftist mentality in a Good Kind country, start a brawl or attempt to riot and all those itchy finger on the hands holding 12 gauges armed with rubber ammo will never stop until you disperse. Tear gas is only being properly deployed when the riotters are inside a fog, stun grenades are never too much, close the ranks, close the distance and work our the baton; you got the picture...

Anonymous Quicksilver75 April 17, 2017 2:48 AM  

The clip on Gab of the Berkeley Antifa sneaking around another Antifa and clubbing the Trump supporter on the head with a bicycle U-Lock should be seen by all. (It is like on twitter too)
It shows clearly what kind of total scum we are dealing with. The way of the chivalrous gentleman is not sustainable anymore. We are at war with these scum. May they suffer as they deserve to.

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 17, 2017 3:35 AM  

@174 Yes, and stating the obvious here, but none of the antifa scum attempted to detain the guy who committed a vicious, unprovoked assault with a deadly weapon. Instead they protected him.

Blogger Kona Commuter April 17, 2017 3:51 AM  

An enjoyable read on riot control

http://www.everyjoe.com/2017/01/30/politics/riot-control-discussion-training-effectiveness/#1

Blogger Antony April 17, 2017 3:52 AM  

On the subject of protective gear - not quite so obvious as baseball helmets - these look useful ; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Delta-Plus-Venitex-Kaizio-Impact-Safety-Baseball-Bump-Cap-Hard-Hat-Safety-Helmet-/132102687980

Anonymous Duder April 17, 2017 4:10 AM  

Nearly all the recent street fighting against the left has taken place in California. So maybe people in other states should stop talking shit unless they're willing to help.

Blogger Koanic April 17, 2017 4:18 AM  

@165 Paradigm
"Vernon Howell dindu nuffin"

What you mean by "too many facts wrong" is "showing insufficient citational regard for my hobby horse", which I consider "lying".

Please, whine more about how fake laws are improperly applied by Communist cops. Perhaps you wish to appeal to Jew judges and Jamaican juries!

Since there is no law in the USSA, I defer to my Bible, which tells me that Koresh was not a sainted martyr, but a nasty heretic who needed killing, Old Testament style. May his name be forgotten.

Anonymous CoolHand April 17, 2017 7:09 AM  

Koanic wrote:Since there is no law in the USSA, I defer to my Bible, which tells me that Koresh was not a sainted martyr, but a nasty heretic who needed killing, Old Testament style. May his name be forgotten.

Yup, and sending in the F-Troop boys to kick in the doors and light them chil'ns on fire sure did save the lot of 'em didn't it?

So the guy in charge was a loony with a messiah complex. I fail to see how burning everyone to death was a better outcome than doing nothing and letting the nutter continue nuttering.

It's false equivalency to suggest that since koresh was a loony, charging in federal guns a-blazin' was the de facto right move.

Even if he WAS a kiddy diddler, which a lot of people would dispute, I fail to see how either shooting or burning said kiddies to death improves their lot in life or helps anyone at all.

So you don't like koresh, fine, but don't pretend like him being an asshole somehow absolves the feds of being even bigger assholes for killing a lot of innocent folks over nothing.

Anonymous EH April 17, 2017 7:47 AM  

If you're pensive about what to wear to the next antifa pounding or the expense of costuming was the only thing holding you back from filming armies of sleek, futuristic robot-clone-killers {&/or killer robot clones etc.), then search Amazon for "motocross armor".

Anonymous MongoJimmy April 17, 2017 7:50 AM  

It's too bad they can't be sold into bondage.

Never say never.

Blogger Segesta April 17, 2017 8:28 AM  

Don't call it "antifa," which makes them sound like the exact opposite of what they are.

Blogger sysadmn April 17, 2017 8:38 AM  

And if you don't have LEO, Military, or English Football Hooligan experience, read Tom Kratman's Riot Control columns at Every Joe (http://www.everyjoe.com/2017/02/06/politics/riot-control-stop-riot-before-out-of-hand/#1).

Anonymous Mr Hyde April 17, 2017 9:00 AM  

Would love to see these mock battle outcomes on Infogalactic VD
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9frJwxVwAAqWuk.jpg

Blogger Koanic April 17, 2017 9:19 AM  

I fail to see how either shooting or burning said kiddies to death improves their lot in life or helps anyone at all.

You probably fail to see why all the women and children of Benjamin were slaughtered too, and I fail to care.

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 10:21 AM  

@164 Who do you sue, the City of Berkeley?

To expand a bit on what I think would be the best course, it would be for a rich guy to come in and take on the legal challenges, very much like what Peter Thiel did with that Hulk Hogan tape case. There has to be some super-rich guys on our side willing to take on lawyer fees to prove a point? Basically we need a Peter Thiel type willing to make a statement.

Who to sue? Everybody. The City, the Police Department, the City Manager, the Police Chief. It's all about creating a financial burden for the city so that we have leverage to bring them to the table and hold them accountable. All we want to do is get them to sit down and be willing to negotiate. We're not asking for much. We're simply saying that when people have a permit to rally, and protesters come in throwing M-80s into the rally, the police need to step in.

How about negotiating a simple ordinance that could end this? Something like this: if you're at an organized protest you're not allowed to wear a mask to hide your identity. And then the police can go in and just pick off random people wearing masks and detain them. They don't even need to make arrests and prosecute. Just detain and these antifa will scatter like roaches if they're not allowed to wear face masks.

Negotiate. Show that all we're expecting is for basic protection and our 1st Amendment rights to be respected, and the lawsuits will be dropped. What's cheaper for the city? Fighting 50 lawsuits or simply doing their jobs?

If we're going to cede our governments and court system to the left then we're really putting ourselves way behind the eight ball. We can't allow our legal structure to protect this kind of political violence. Authorities have to be held accountable.

I understand all of this is contingent upon finding a wealthy guy to take up the cause, but these are the kind of fighting tactics the left uses to make progress year after year. There's always some rich left guy putting his money out there to fight for their cause. Our side can't sit on our hands in the legal arena. We have to fight there too.

Anonymous johnc April 17, 2017 10:22 AM  

@164 Then there was the guy down on his knees with both hands up, trying to protect some Trump women, and an antifa brained him with a bicycle U-lock. Sent the guy to the hospital with blood streaming. Could have killed him.

They fight with a certain asymmetry that is hard to counter. The guy was wearing a mask and slipped right back into the crowd. He'll never be held legally responsible for his crime. Another guy was cracked in the head with rebar and received a major gash. What are we getting out of it? Injuries, medical bills, and some of ours are being arrested. It's going to escalate until someone is turned into a vegetable. Does it advance the cause of the right?

It's only a matter of time until the media picks up on the fact that there are far-right members in attendance: neo-nazis, white supremacists, etc. I don't have a problem with them being there, but the media will go to town with that narrative, and then all public sympathy for the rally-goers is lost. The left will be emboldened. And then that would be a major defeat that ripples out beyond just Berkeley.

We need to keep capturing this imagery of antifa aggression. Use your smartphone as the real weapon it is and document that stuff and get it out there so people can see. Show them what the media and the law enforcement/judicial system WILL NOT show them.

I haven't figured out yet what the optics of all this are. On the right, I think it's riling more people up, which is good. We need the motivation and energy. Normies may say, "Wow the left is violent and don't believe in free speech." However, part of the normies' opinion may be formed by the media's presentation. If the right is presented as the aggressor, they may think the left is justified and take their side.

The one downside I see is that people who are on the fence will naturally gravitate to the side they perceive to be the strongest. They don't necessarily side with the victims. So people on the right are calling the left snowflakes who need safe spaces and crayons, and antifa are skinny-jeans wearing sissies, but the imagery of the past 18 months has been of Trump supporters bleeding from the head, wrapped up in bandages, on the ground screaming from pepper spray, and suffering one-punch knock-outs. The optics are that we look weak and powerless, and that's what the left wants. They goad our guys into melees and then overwhelm them with their numbers, sending our guys back bleeding. Our side has got some good hits in too, but not nearly as many. And Damigo punching the 80 lb dreadlocks girl probably doesn't look that impressive. To that end, Huntington Beach and the part of Saturday's Berkeley conflict where our side took back the streets definitely looked like good optics for our side because those cases showed strength. But I think those wins were largely a numbers game.

BTW I admit I could be wrong on all of this. The path is escalation and who knows what it gets for us?

Blogger Ray April 17, 2017 10:39 AM  

It was Waco, not Ruby Ridge.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 17, 2017 11:02 AM  

@179 Koanic
@165 Paradigm
"Vernon Howell dindu nuffin"


Your paraphrase is false. It is deliberately false, as I specifically referred to Howell's crimes. You bear false witness. That is called "lying".

What you mean by "too many facts wrong" is "showing insufficient citational regard for my hobby horse", which I consider "lying".

You attempt to rewrite history. I was correct, you lie.

Please, whine more about how fake laws are improperly applied by Communist cops. Perhaps you wish to appeal to Jew judges and Jamaican juries!

Strawman.

Since there is no law in the USSA, I defer to my Bible, which tells me that Koresh was not a sainted martyr, but a nasty heretic who needed killing, Old Testament style. May his name be forgotten.

You have been caught lying. What does the Law say about that?
Repent of your lies, confess your sin of lying to God, plead for His grace.

Blogger Ned April 17, 2017 11:10 AM  

#181 - yes. Lots of motocross gear is thin and can be worn under clothing. I've taken brutal hits with full gear in rocks, no injuries, vs a friend tipping over in the rocks wearing street hockey elbow pads. he got a cut that ruined our day - had to take him to hospital to get stitched. Cost him more than double the cost of all the protective gear I wore, and he had insurance - something to keep in mind. My gear was very light on arms and legs, and never an injury. I wore over jersey chest protection, so I'm not up to date on chest and shoulder protection that goes under clothing. Some of my gear was discount stuff that really worked. Regarding helmets - remember, of someone gets a purchase on your helmet bill from behind, they can own you -even break your neck. This is where strategy comes in handy - you must rely on those around you, and don't wade off into the enemy and get surrounded.

Blogger Ned April 17, 2017 11:15 AM  

Incidentally, check out and subscribe to Ivan Throne's Violent Solutions. A group dedicated to gathering intelligence on Antifa creatures.

Anonymous Grayman April 17, 2017 11:16 AM  

Ned wrote:#181 - ……. remember, of someone gets a purchase on your helmet bill from behind, they can own you -even break your neck. This is where strategy comes in handy - you must rely on those around you, and don't wade off into the enemy and get surrounded.

Battle Buddies!!!! At these events people should always be in teams of 2 to 4 people who stay together as a team at all times and watch each other’s back. If one or 2 of the battle team engage antifa, 1 or2 should stay back a few steps to provide “overwatch” so that the team member engaging antifa is not abused from behind.

The “battle team” should consider wearing something identifiable without standing out too much, such as getting matching MAGA shirts so that they can identify each other in the chaos of an engagement.

Blogger Rye Protagonist April 17, 2017 11:21 AM  

And suddenly, my fondest wish is to claim an antifa flag as spoils of war to see it displayed behind my Dark Lord on a periscope.

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