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Thursday, April 06, 2017

Not a nation of immigrants


Notice that both wages and living standards rose as immigration fell, and both have fallen as immigration has increased and gotten out of hand. Immigration does not benefit a society. It destroys and impoverishes it.

The good news, such as it is, is that those higher numbers will never be reached. The USA will collapse long before that point, most likely a few years before 2040.

But at least Americans will have the satisfaction of knowing that no one ever called them racist, right?

Even the globalist Foreign Affairs realizes that the current situation is no longer tenable.
Regarding cultural assimilation, advocates of open immigration policies often argue that there is no problem. During the last great wave of immigration, from roughly 1880 to 1920, Americans feared the newcomers would not blend in, but for the most part they ended up assimilating. Therefore, as this reasoning goes, all immigrants will assimilate.

Unfortunately, however, circumstances that helped Great Wave immigrants assimilate are not present today. First, World War I and then legislation in the early 1920s dramatically reduced new arrivals. By 1970 less than 5 percent of the U.S. population was foreign-born, down from 14.7 percent in 1910. This reduction helped immigrant communities assimilate, as they were no longer continually refreshed by new arrivals from the old country. But in recent decades, the dramatic growth of immigrant enclaves has likely slowed the pace of assimilation. Second, many of today’s immigrants, like those of the past, have modest education levels, but unlike in the past, the modern U.S. economy has fewer good jobs for unskilled workers. Partly for this reason, immigrants do not improve their economic situation over time as much as they did in the past.

Third, technology allows immigrants to preserve ties with the homeland in ways that were not possible a century ago. Calling, texting, emailing, FaceTiming, and traveling home are all relatively cheap and easy. Fourth, the United States’ attitude toward newcomers has also changed. In the past, there was more of a consensus about the desirability of assimilation.
Fifth, it's not just harder for multicultural, multireligious USicans to assimilate Africans and Muslims and mestizos than it was for Christian Anglo-Americans to partially assimilate Northern and Southern Europeans, it is impossible.

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Anonymous Ironsides April 06, 2017 11:06 AM  

Talk of assimilation is laughable. The Mexicans here openly brandish Mexican flags and attack Americans trying to peacefully rally in support of an American presidential candidate. They are Mexicans, they intend to remain Mexicans, and they view this land as one to be taken over and made Mexican.

The Africans have been with us almost from the beginning and they STILL aren't assimilated, at all. They still represent a second, foreign nation embedded in the first, 200+ years after most of their ancestors arrived here.

Separation is in the best interests of all involved, frankly.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 06, 2017 11:07 AM  

Who would want to assimilate them? And they do not want to assimilate, ask them, yesterday we were being lectured by some Islamic moron who is nothing more than a new Colonialist.

Of course then again the conservatives rush out to save the liberals and we will end up with more civic nationalist blather.

Blogger Gaiseric April 06, 2017 11:09 AM  

Sixth; the just-so story that that wave of immigrants truly assimilated is belied by gift basket of un-American attitudes and beliefs that many of them (who were often Eastern European Jews) held, and which their descendants still hold today.

Anonymous Crew April 06, 2017 11:16 AM  

Are they starting to retreat from that silly proposition because they see the prospect of AI maturing to the point where they can agitate for voting rights for AIs?

Anonymous fop April 06, 2017 11:17 AM  

Latinos have assimilated just fine in SoCal. 20 years ago they all drove very slowly, carefully, and politely on the freeways. Nowadays they drive like angry lunatics just like everybody else.

Blogger Shimshon April 06, 2017 11:20 AM  

They have to go back.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 06, 2017 11:23 AM  

The big story is where this story appeared. I think we're starting to see a real shift in attitudes.

It'll start with shutting immigration down. Sending the immigrants already here back home will come later.

Anonymous alt right gossip April 06, 2017 11:25 AM  

mass immigration benefits the big corporations and their plutocrat shareholders...that is what america is all about ...that is what america has ALWAYS been about? Ever read the federalist papers? The united states was formed in order to 'protect the minority of the opulent against the majority', to quote the father of the constitution....and that is just what amss immigration does....just as the founding fathers intended....get with the program!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 06, 2017 11:27 AM  

Provoking the Africans, Asians, Muslims or whatever grouplet of angry non-whites to take over the speaking duties from the white libs will just about kill off the civic nationalist scam.

Doubt me then go read Sailer and his group of spergatoids, that group would be in hog heaven if they could debate white NYTs type columnists till the second coming, but put up a New Colonial Racial Overlord and civic nationalism sounds so lame after the complete rejection by the New Overlords.

Anonymous BBGKB April 06, 2017 11:29 AM  

The Africans have been with us almost from the beginning and they STILL aren't assimilated

Forget the Africans over 200years we can't even assimilate jews over 2000 (or is it over 9000). “Ethicist” Peter Singer says it's ok to rape retards & bestiality is GGGreathttps://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/now-peter-singer-argues-that-it-might-be-okay-to-rape-disabled-people

Blogger Cail Corishev April 06, 2017 11:31 AM  

They are Mexicans, they intend to remain Mexicans, and they view this land as one to be taken over and made Mexican.

Yes, or replace "Mexican" with several other names. They see America as a huge Wal-Mart where anyone should be able to come in and demand a job/handout and be a consumer, with a giant public lawn outside where they can pitch camp and live according to their own rules. They intend to be parasites because they see no reason not to, and they aren't shy about it anymore.

It wouldn't even occur to them to try to assimilate. If you see a pile of money lying on the ground with no one guarding it, do you try to assimilate with it, or just grab some?

Blogger ronehjr April 06, 2017 11:33 AM  

A few months ago I was completely irredeemable because I didn't want my house surrounded by mosques and to hear mariachi music blasting from every restaurant kitchen. Now apparently being literally worse than hitler is mainstream. In six months will Nikki Haley be driving around with a rebel flag bumper sticker on her car?

Blogger Noah B The MacroAggressor April 06, 2017 11:34 AM  

@11 And that pile of money lying on the ground is us - our land, our savings, our future earnings.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky April 06, 2017 11:37 AM  

Public high schools in California, Iowa and South Carolina have begun to restrict displays of the American flag, because it hampers "diversity" and sparks feelbad. So, Lesson Learned #1: it's America vs. Diversity, they do not go together. Lesson Learned #2: the problem is no longer confined to lunatics in Mexifornia. It's a Coast-To-Coast ideology, urban and rural, challenging the fabric of our nation head-to-toe.

Anonymous BBGKB April 06, 2017 11:37 AM  

@11 And that pile of money lying on the ground is us - our land, our savings, our future earnings.

Thank goodness I thought it was mostly debt.

Anonymous Looking Glass April 06, 2017 11:38 AM  

Highest wages was 1972, which looks to be the absolute low in immigrants.

This, plus choices very specifically made to attack native Men, are not disconnected.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 06, 2017 11:40 AM  

One side of their mouths: "Assimilation."
The other side: "It's cultural Chauvinism to demand assimilation."

Result: A visit to the store is like living National Geographic.

I tire easily of those who talk out of both sides of their mouths.

North America won't be on a path to significant improvement until those who do so are silenced, by their learning circumspection...or the alternative.

Blogger Sillon Bono April 06, 2017 11:42 AM  

Crew wrote:Are they starting to retreat from that silly proposition because they see the prospect of AI maturing to the point where they can agitate for voting rights for AIs?

AI is not more clever than this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVyRkl5qNb8

This whole AI business is like Cloud, Multimedia, Object-Oriented, just the latest buzzword from an industry eager to sell the latest load of buggy rubbish.

Anonymous E. April 06, 2017 11:50 AM  

"it's not just harder for multicultural, multireligious USicans to assimilate Africans and Muslims and mestizos than it was for Christian Anglo-Americans to partially assimilate Northern and Southern Europeans, it is impossible."

Even Africans are beginning to acknowledge that Africans are not Westerners and never will be. Article from last year about South Africa beginning to look like all the other corrupt African countries because it is being run by Africans.

http://m.sowetanlive.co.za/?articleId=16794759&sectionId=32

Blogger DeploraBard April 06, 2017 11:53 AM  

Give them a Pepsi

OpenID paworldandtimes April 06, 2017 11:53 AM  

"Assimilation" means that the US-born children of immigrants will either be our permanent slave caste, or they will be free to marry our daughters.

What else could immigration apologists mean by "assimilate"? -- that the toothy Eritreans will like baseball and apple pie, but in their own parallel enclaves?

PA

Blogger DeploraBard April 06, 2017 11:53 AM  

Give them a Pepsi

Anonymous Anonymous April 06, 2017 11:54 AM  

Twitter has made it totally impossible to share a link to Vox's blogspot! I can't believe how blatant and obvious the censorship is... I cannot tweet a link to it without getting a message saying "this looks like automated activity" and I can't even send a link to it in a private chat without getting an error message. Other blogspot website links work just find, just not Vox's. Additionally, when you come to the site in the web browser they put up a page saying it's UNSAFE and you have to click a special link to continue. Maybe this isn't news to other people but I had no CLUE they were going to this length to silence him. That just makes me want to spread his content that much further and wider. Keep going Vox, you're right over the target otherwise you wouldn't be taking so much flak!

Anonymous Looking Glass April 06, 2017 11:55 AM  

@7 Napoleon 12pdr

Elites are *never* monolith unless you're attacking something the entire group doesn't want attacked. We're in the middle of a war among the Elites. The younger ones have very different views from the post-WW2 ones. There is a LOT of money to be had by controlling aspects within each country, and for the first time in a while, national Elite factions see an opening.

The biggest one to watch is always the Economist, though. That's actually the Globalist Elite's main discussion zone. If they're talking something up, start reading between the lines.

I still think the European/Globalist Elite's biggest mistake is bringing in too many Indians & Arabs. Those groups talk a nice game, but they are simply not a part of the Globalist project beyond tepid measures. Which might explain part of the reason they're reacting so badly. All of their decades long plans are getting blown up because they let people not actually on-board with the plans into the meetings. Add in some overreach and the body politic responded.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 06, 2017 11:57 AM  

This has the look of a trial balloon of some sort. That graph could be a bit frightening even to the private building / gated community set. One could have a bit of fun by relabeling it as "% of foreign born accepted to Ivy League colleges" and then republishing it. That would get some people's attention. Almost as entertaining as pushing clown-boy's Stanford application in their faces.

The source is important, because Foreign Affairs has often been used to signal trend changes to the upper class and upper middle class in advance of signals in the more plebian media such as the NY Review of Books, NY (Carlos Slim blog) Times, etc.

If any globalists are actually having second thoughts about their mass migration / colonization at this late date, that would be quite interesting.

Blogger red clock April 06, 2017 11:57 AM  

It's been hundreds of years and there is still endless conflict b/w European-Americans and African Americans. How long do we wait for assimilation?

Assimilation becomes close to impossible when the majority and minority groups have very different levels of achievement. The low-achieving group becomes bitter and blames it on the high achievers and uses politics to redistribute. Thus politics becomes ever more racial/religious and divisions explode.

Multiracial multiculturalism is difficult enough as it is - but endless new arrivals and democracy makes it close to impossible.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 06, 2017 12:01 PM  

I see today as an antebellum time. Just as in 1855, few could see the coming conflagration. By the early part of the war, people were so submerged in a negative social mood that they spent all day ENRAGED. They jumped at the chance to rip someone limb-from-limb, and the war gave them that opportunity.

Whites in North America and Europe have nowhere to go. This gives them home field advantage. When this insanely extended social mood mania finally ends, and we plunge as a herd into inarticulate rage, the conditions put in place these past decades will become the FOCUS of that rage.

"They have to go back" because someone's got to go, and they're the only ones whose backs aren't to the wall. Even if whites were outnumbered, this fact would matter more than any other. The La Razans don't seem to grasp this.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 06, 2017 12:02 PM  

During the last great wave of immigration, from roughly 1880 to 1920, Americans feared the newcomers would not blend in, but for the most part they ended up assimilating.

They certainly did assimilate better than the recent arrivals, but even so...

The tail end of that wave of immigrants saw many fundamental transformations of American politics - Income Tax, the Federal Reserve, Women's Suffrage, Prohibition and the (temporary) nationalization of one of the most important industries of the age, the Railroads.

After that wave of immigration ended, we immediately had a political backlash - a "return to normalcy" that looked very promising for a time. But as soon as things got a little bit tough, we threw ourselves into 20 years of progressive meddling. Apologists for FDR often say the New Deal saved us from communism, and they may very well be right, but what made communism a potential threat other than the large number of "assimilated" children and grandchildren of those non-hajnal immigrants.

So, that's pretty much the Best Case scenario - complete assimilation that leads to fundamental transformation of our politics leading to decades of structural problems and loss of freedoms.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 06, 2017 12:03 PM  

@23 Looking Glass
I still think the European/Globalist Elite's biggest mistake is bringing in too many Indians & Arabs. Those groups talk a nice game, but they are simply not a part of the Globalist project beyond tepid measures.

The Globalist / Davos faith in the blank slate has led them to bring in tribalists who aren't in the (((tribe))) that the Globalists are used to working with. Include the Persians in this as well, although thanks to the 1979 revolution the West has been mostly spared an invasion of them.

Which might explain part of the reason they're reacting so badly. All of their decades long plans are getting blown up because they let people not actually on-board with the plans into the meetings.

Their plans are failing because their plans were based on what should be true, rather than reality. It's understandable. If the only Arabs or Indians you know are a handful of the elite, and you are foolish enough to generalize from a very non-representative sample, then why not open the gates? Cecil Rhodes may have made a similar mistake, but then like Keynes he didn't really have the longer term, multigenerational, outlook.

Blogger Nick S April 06, 2017 12:04 PM  

@12

ronehjr, everyone qualifies for someone else's pigeonholes of disparagement. no one is immune.

We don't care. We don't need safe spaces from "hate speech". That's the difference between them and us and why we'll win.

Blogger Cail Corishev April 06, 2017 12:10 PM  

What else could immigration apologists mean by "assimilate"?

Here's what they mean: "Shut up."

On this topic, a week or so ago there was an article from a Jewish or Muslim college student or professor, I think, boasting about how America belongs to the world and we have no right to keep anyone from taking his piece and doing whatever he likes with it. I can't locate that back; does anyone know what I'm talking about and perhaps have a link?

Anonymous Crew April 06, 2017 12:20 PM  

The Africans have been with us almost from the beginning and they STILL aren't assimilated, at all. They still represent a second, foreign nation embedded in the first, 200+ years after most of their ancestors arrived here.

The real problem, I believe, is going to be all those high IQ immigrants from other somewhat inbred populations (races) who do/will not integrate and who, because of their genes, have no empathy for whites in the US.

You only have to read the (((elite-controlled))) media to understand the scorn and antipathy they have for white Americans.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 06, 2017 12:20 PM  

@30
Well, there was a little 3,500 word essay not too long ago by the former President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmahwakjob where he proclaimed the US belongs to all nations.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-belongs-to-all-nations-ex-iran-president-writes-a-letter-to-donald-trump/story-wtYgdky2DSNtcBde52AhVN.html

Best quote here:
“In other words, the contemporary US belongs to all nations, including the natives of the land,” he wrote. “No one may consider themselves the owner and view others as guests or immigrants.”

So there's some of that assimilation going on in Iran for sure.

Anonymous Looking Glass April 06, 2017 12:26 PM  

@26 dc.sunsets

One of the sadder parts of being historically literate, and well studied in a few Western Wars, is the Globalists and the rest of the World have no conception anymore what they could be unleashing. Their understanding is but a faint memory of what they're going to cause.

"Nuke them back to the stone-age" isn't some random phrase. It was the American policy for the invasion of Japan. We don't do subtlety in Foreign Policy that well, but we do have a knack for utter destruction.

And, from my study of the lead up to the Civil War, the conclusion I've come to is that a lot of factions really, really wanted to fight it out. It was very much a war among the Elites that the common Man paid for in blood.


"It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate."

http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/Fiction/kipling/awakened.htm


Anonymous Jeff April 06, 2017 12:41 PM  

USicans is pronounced Yussicans, right?

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass April 06, 2017 12:42 PM  

"Third, technology allows immigrants to preserve ties with the homeland in ways that were not possible a century ago. Calling, texting, emailing, FaceTiming, and traveling home are all relatively cheap and easy. Fourth, the United States’ attitude toward newcomers has also changed. In the past, there was more of a consensus about the desirability of assimilation."

THIS!!!!! 1000XTHIS!!!!

*spits* I've always HATED Foreign Policy, bunch of CFR jackasses.

"Talk of assimilation is laughable. The Mexicans here openly brandish Mexican flags and attack Americans trying to peacefully rally in support of an American presidential candidate. They are Mexicans, they intend to remain Mexicans, and they view this land as one to be taken over and made Mexican. "

@1 Exactly.

"They see America as a huge Wal-Mart where anyone should be able to come in and demand a job/handout and be a consumer, with a giant public lawn outside where they can pitch camp and live according to their own rules. They intend to be parasites because they see no reason not to, and they aren't shy about it anymore. "

@11 It's long been apparent that most foreigners view us as an ATM and gas stop.

"Public high schools in California, Iowa and South Carolina have begun to restrict displays of the American flag, because it hampers "diversity" and sparks feelbad."

@14 It's like Sharia...almost.

"Give them a Pepsi"

@20 A Pepsi, you say?

"Whites in North America and Europe have nowhere to go. This gives them home field advantage. When this insanely extended social mood mania finally ends, and we plunge as a herd into inarticulate rage, the conditions put in place these past decades will become the FOCUS of that rage. "

@26 They also tend to be pretty cohesive in terms of politics outside of the urban centers.

Blogger John Williams April 06, 2017 12:47 PM  

That graph could be a bit frightening even to the private building / gated community set.
That graph assumes linear growth from 1980 to 2060. That's not how populations grow. That's scary is that graph is, it's hardly realistic. The truth would be unbelievable.

Anonymous BBGKB April 06, 2017 12:48 PM  

Public high schools in California, Iowa and South Carolina have begun to restrict displays of the American flag, because it hampers "diversity"


Gay man looks for "Big Bird" at Sesame Street, hands out candy/cookies.

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/04/billy-eichner-sesame-street/

Blogger Dirk Manly April 06, 2017 12:57 PM  

@Ronehjr

Hopefully, in 6 months, "Nikki" Haley will be on a plane to India, with the immediate intent of moving in with her grandparents, until she can find a hovel of her own.

Blogger Dirtnapninja April 06, 2017 12:59 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Whites in North America and Europe have nowhere to go. This gives them home field advantage. When this insanely extended social mood mania finally ends, and we plunge as a herd into inarticulate rage, the conditions put in place these past decades will become the FOCUS of that rage.

The left deals with opposition by subverting it. This expresses itself in politics, and in demography. Red tribe getting you down? Subvert its power through migration or infiltration.

The right deals with opposition by schism. Blue Tribe getting you down? Leave and find a better spot with more agreeable people.

This has held the peace. The Red tribe has always had room to set up shop, away from the harassment of blue tribal shamans and their ethnic barbarian jannissaries. But whats going to happen when there are no more places to escape to? When the red tribe cant find refuge from the blue tribal violence? Then lines will be drawn and things will start to get ugly...fast.

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 1:02 PM  

@26 DC

Whites in North America and Europe have nowhere to go. This gives them home field advantage. When this insanely extended social mood mania finally ends, and we plunge as a herd into inarticulate rage, the conditions put in place these past decades will become the FOCUS of that rage

Can you say "rawanda".....

Whites don't generally use machetes though, so fewer body parts.

It's scary how few people realize how quickly this can turn and how incredibly brutal it could be.

Imagine rawanda with 600 million people involved. 600 million is the US and Europe, as one side sparking off sets the other off as well.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 06, 2017 1:02 PM  

@DeploraBard

All I wanted was a Pepsi. Just one Pepsi. And she wouldn't give it to me!


P.S. Pepsi is evil.

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 1:07 PM  

I've noticed several confederate flags on cars in my area recently. There is clearly a social mood shift occurring. "Fuck you, that's why" is obviously starting to take hold publicly.

And I'm in not in the southern US either.

Blogger bosscauser April 06, 2017 1:07 PM  

We used to be a slave owning society too.
Hello?

#PresidentTrump2020

Blogger John Williams April 06, 2017 1:17 PM  

this looks like automated activity
This is an intolerant bias against an uploaded AI. Does this mean Twitter will be against AI's voting?

Anonymous Looking Glass April 06, 2017 1:19 PM  

@42 Grayman

Stars & Bars or Battle Flag of Virginia? Because the latter is a sign that things are getting dicey. The former means things are a whole lot worse.

Blogger Pteronarcyd April 06, 2017 1:20 PM  

"Immigration does not benefit a society. It destroys and impoverishes it."

Context is everything.

The Louisiana Purchase made mass immigration desirable for a while. Large numbers of settlers were needed to inhabit and develop the Great American Desert (called the Great Plains today):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J2K8DVmgWWk/TTSaJ9NrphI/AAAAAAAAA7M/Zpbqph4jUcA/s1600/Map_of_the_Great_Plains.png

Inhabiting the interior was necessary to secure our hold on the west coast, which was imperiled by Spanish, British, and Russian ambitions.

Toward the end of the 19th century immigration was needed to populate the cities to provide a workforce for a nation undergoing an industrial revolution. Most of our population was rural working on farms. Industrial centers were in urban centers.

In general, the homesteading wave of immigrants assimilated much better than the urban wave. In fact, the dysfunction amongst elements of the urban wave led to immigration restrictions of the 1920s, which remained in effect until Hart-Celler in 1965.

I can think of no good reason for mass immigration in the modern era. We have no need to fill vacant spaces to secure our nation, and we have no shortage of workers. A return to the restrictions of the 1920s, or something more stringent, is in order.

Blogger Nate73 April 06, 2017 1:20 PM  

VD can you post a brief overview of expat options for people like me still in the US? I want to learn a foreign language and move somewhere "good", esp since the countries with the most english also have the most immigrants: https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/conversation-english-eurobarometer.jpg

But the articles at RoK are mostly concerned with which countries have the best looking women, not necessarily which are the best overall to live in.

Anonymous disbelief April 06, 2017 1:26 PM  

Freaking unbelievable... Twitter will not only not allow you to post links to voxday.blogspot.com in a tweet but will not even let you do it in a PRIVATE MESSAGE! This tells me we need to work 10x as hard and make sure their censorship efforts backfire big time. More eyeballs on Vox's stuff because he's right over the target and they hate him for it!

Blogger YIH April 06, 2017 1:26 PM  

DeploraBard wrote:Give them a Pepsi
Ain't just Pepsi, Coke did the Globalist Anthem.

Blogger Gaiseric April 06, 2017 1:31 PM  

Noah B The MacroAggressor wrote:@11 And that pile of money lying on the ground is us - our land, our savings, our future earnings.
It's our birthright, and America is full of a bunch of idiot Esaus.

Blogger Cail Corishev April 06, 2017 1:32 PM  

@32 Paradigm, thanks, I'll bet that's it.

Blogger Gaiseric April 06, 2017 1:37 PM  

Grayman wrote:Can you say "rawanda".....

Whites don't generally use machetes though, so fewer body parts.

It's scary how few people realize how quickly this can turn and how incredibly brutal it could be.

Imagine rawanda with 600 million people involved. 600 million is the US and Europe, as one side sparking off sets the other off as well.

We call them seaxes instead of machetes. But yeah; we'll use whatever's to hand when it comes down to it.

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 06, 2017 1:47 PM  

Grayman wrote:Whites don't generally use machetes though, so fewer body parts.
More where tree chippers are involved.  LOTS more.  Just not recognizable.

It's scary how few people realize how quickly this can turn and how incredibly brutal it could be.
I've run the numbers.  The answer is "freaky fast", and the speed won't be limited by ability but by the will to use the means already at hand.  The hundreds of millions of privately-owned guns are only the beginning; they may figure in 1 death in 10.  Mutual racial enmities between blacks and browns will be ruthlessly exploited.

Imagine rawanda with 600 million people involved.
Imagine Rwanda with competent clean-up crews and a Potempkin repatriation effort for the official histories.  Imagine the minorities holed up in buildings and the whites pumping chlorine gas in through the sewer pipes.  Or carbon monoxide.  They will literally not know what hit them; they will just fall down dead.

The advantage of these things is that the infrastructure is fine after a good airing-out.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT April 06, 2017 1:48 PM  

@20 - Give them a Pepsi

We will give each one a Pepsi before putting them on the bus, boat, or train back home.

Blogger Steve Moss April 06, 2017 1:49 PM  

I disagree that Hispanics cannot assimilate and are not Americans. What you see on TV is not the universe of Hispanic Americans.

Personally, I see many Hispanics being as true blue Americans as people like me whose direct ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War. I see it currently on the soccer fields, in the workforce and I saw it in the Marine Corps and college.

Historically, Hispanics are just as prone to fight for liberty as we are. Take a look at the list of defenders killed at the Alamo. There are many Hispanics who fought and died shoulder to shoulder with Davey Crocket, William Travis and others from all around the United States.

And many of the Marines I served with were Hispanic and dedicated to the USA and Constitution far more than the run of the mill public, and some of those that post here.

There is a lot more to being a nation than mere color of one's skin or how a surname is pronounced. I concede that ethnic and racial differences can create hurdles, but those are not insurmountable.

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 06, 2017 1:50 PM  

Grayman wrote:Whites don't generally use machetes though, so fewer body parts.
More where tree chippers are involved.  LOTS more.  Just not recognizable.

It's scary how few people realize how quickly this can turn and how incredibly brutal it could be.
I've run the numbers.  The answer is "freaky fast", and the speed won't be limited by ability but by the will to use the means already at hand.  The hundreds of millions of privately-owned guns are only the beginning; they may figure in 1 death in 10.  Mutual racial enmities between blacks and browns will be ruthlessly exploited.

Imagine rawanda with 600 million people involved.
Imagine Rwanda with competent clean-up crews and a Potempkin repatriation effort for the official histories.  Imagine the minorities holed up in buildings and the whites pumping chlorine gas in through the sewer pipes.  Or carbon monoxide.  They will literally not know what hit them; they will just fall down dead.

That's for places where the real estate is still desirable.  Traditional methods will apply otherwise.

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 1:52 PM  

Looking Glass, the battle flag of Virginia

Blogger Cail Corishev April 06, 2017 1:59 PM  

What you see on TV is not the universe of Hispanic Americans.

Gosh, TV isn't reality? Next you'll tell us most IT professionals aren't really black!

But you're right: the reality is surely much worse than the pretty lies we're told on TV.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 06, 2017 2:05 PM  

What you see on TV is not the universe of Hispanic Americans.

What TV? Univision or something else? Say, did you know that the people in the military have to pass a basic intelligence test to get in even now, and so they are not actually a random sample? For a start, they have to be able to read. Compared to mostly-Indian Mestizo peasants from Guerrero or Chiapas, US military hispanics are cherry picked.

What next? Maybe you'll be telling us that Puerto Ricans are not the same as Cubans who are not the same as Mexicans who are not the same as Guatamalans or Salvadorians.

None of whom are the same as Panamanians. Then Kratman will show up and the real entertainment will begin. Look what you've done!

Anonymous crew April 06, 2017 2:10 PM  

What do you call a company in America where the CEO sends around a message saying an all-hands meeting is being moved because of Passover?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 06, 2017 2:15 PM  

Steve Moss wrote:Historically, Hispanics are just as prone to fight for liberty as we are.
...
There is a lot more to being a nation than mere color of one's skin ...


Which modern Hispanics? The squatemalan invaders? Or the Castilians? Hispanic is neither a race nor a nation.

There is a very high positive correlation between skin color and nation.

Blogger Steve Moss April 06, 2017 2:16 PM  

Say, did you know that the people in the military have to pass a basic intelligence test to get in even now, and so they are not actually a random sample? For a start, they have to be able to read. Compared to mostly-Indian Mestizo peasants from Guerrero or Chiapas, US military hispanics are cherry picked.

Yes, I know military personnel are cherry picked. That's true regardless of race or ethnicity. I was one of three whites from my high school to join the Marines and go to Parris Island. I was the only one of the three to complete recruit training.

I have no problem "cherry picking" immigrants. In fact, I think it would be wise to do so based on health, IQ, education, work ethic, etc., regardless of skin color. If the immigrant doesn't benefit the national interests of the USA he or she should not be let in, and sent back if illegal, so far as a I am concerned.

What I do take exception to is the assertion that persons of Hispanic descent cannot be Americans. To my direct observation, they are frequently better and more patriotic Americans that many Americans of Anglo descent.

Anonymous Ironsides April 06, 2017 2:26 PM  

Hey, we have a cucked-out civil nationalist -- if not an out and out SJW -- here who thinks that being overrun by foreigners and turned into Mexico is a great thing. Let's have a round of applause for this fan of diversity and white genocide, people! ¡Viva los Estados Unidos de México!

Blogger praetorian April 06, 2017 2:26 PM  

Just doing the jobs lazy white Americans won't do, amirite fam?

Anonymous Crew April 06, 2017 2:28 PM  

What I do take exception to is the assertion that persons of Hispanic descent cannot be Americans. To my direct observation, they are frequently better and more patriotic Americans that many Americans of Anglo descent.

Until it comes to a war with Mexico.

BTW, just who are you calling Hispanic? People predominantly descended from immigrants from Spain?

Blogger Steve Moss April 06, 2017 2:34 PM  

BTW, just who are you calling Hispanic? People predominantly descended from immigrants from Spain?

The dictionary definition is "relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America." So yes, I would say your statement is correct.

Though there are a lot of Hispanics with Indian blood. And to my observations there are many Indians who are also excellent Americans. The chairman of the local Indian tribe was also a Marine Sergeant and is a highly intelligent and driven individual. I suspect a genetic test of the tribe would show a lot of Hispanic blood intermixed.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr April 06, 2017 2:35 PM  

I knew a guy who was of Spanish ancestry. If you called him "Hispanic", he would politely correct you.

Anonymous Crew April 06, 2017 2:37 PM  

"BTW, just who are you calling Hispanic? People predominantly descended from immigrants from Spain?"

The dictionary definition is "relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America." So yes, I would say your statement is correct.


You couldn't see the contradiction? Not so woke!

Blogger Steve Moss April 06, 2017 2:38 PM  

Until it comes to a war with Mexico.

As per the above, there were a lot of Mexicans fighting with the Anglos in the Texas Revolution. Upwards of 10,000 Hispanics fought in the Civil War, around two-thirds of them for the Confederacy. So in the far fetched hypothetical that we go to war with Mexico, or that Mexico manages to fight us off for more than a few hours, I suspect that many Americans who have Hispanic ancestry would fight for the USA. A few mentally diseased or deluded Mexicans waving Mexican flags at political rallies notwithstanding.

Blogger Cail Corishev April 06, 2017 2:40 PM  

As per the above, there were a lot of Mexicans fighting with the Anglos in the Texas Revolution.

We just had a meeting and decided: all of them are allowed to stay.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 06, 2017 2:44 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:As per the above, there were a lot of Mexicans fighting with the Anglos in the Texas Revolution.

We just had a meeting and decided: all of them are allowed to stay.


OK, that does it! You can't be Literally Hitler any more!

Anonymous Ironsides April 06, 2017 2:49 PM  

So we're supposed to accept Mexification of our country, people with considerably higher rates of crime, accept a bunch of low-IQ butt-ugly people mixing into our genepool, who strew garbage EVERYWHERE, flout the law, view drug peddling as a way of life, speak another language, and generally despise us as "Saxons" to be displaced, because of your personal deep and abiding love for la Raza de las Cucarachas?

Why don't you go live in Mexico if they're such wonderful, inspiring people? I mean, these paragons must have made a paradise south of the border, since they're so superior to Whitey in every way. What's holdin' ya back, champ?

Anonymous Yann April 06, 2017 2:55 PM  

US is a nation of invaders. They arrived there and they conquered the land. They didn't immigrate, they invaded, expelled the former inhabitants, and built a country.

Of course, you can think this is better or worse than being immigrants. But one thing is sure: it's not the same.

Blogger weka April 06, 2017 3:12 PM  

@72. Every nation is a nation of invaders. The USA did not kill every native: the Tasmanians did.

And the same thing applies. If you are not of the tribe that lives in that nation, you live there for the purposes of that tribe, or you need to go home.

Stop doubling down.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 06, 2017 3:31 PM  

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Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 06, 2017 3:35 PM  

@21

The reverse, that their daughters marry our men. Historically that has been the case, it is, and has always been, more socially acceptable for a man to marry outside the tribe than a women be it racial, ethnic or religious tribe. In the PEW report it showed most intermarriages in this country are typically white man to non-white women. Per pew 68% of marriages are a white/non-white and outside of blacks (and Hispanics where the out marriage rate is equal between men and women) non-white women are more likely to marry outside of their tribe than non-white men. This is also my own person experience, with my own marriage, and among my familial and friend circle, of the dozen or so I have seen only two where ever the reverse of white man to none-white women; incidentally those both ended in divorce.

Anonymous gxg April 06, 2017 3:45 PM  

In the PEW report it showed most intermarriages in this country are typically white man to non-white women.

Intermarriages tell only part of the story. A vast number of mixed-race relationships don't end in marriage, but rather with the white girl having a lower-IQ mixed race baby and a fine future of abuse, infidelity, and welfare dependency.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass April 06, 2017 3:47 PM  

@72. America is better than your backward hellhole of a country.

@68. IIRC there 5 Mexicans among the defenders of the Alamo.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd April 06, 2017 3:48 PM  

Theproductofafineeduction wrote:... it is, and has always been, more socially acceptable for a man to marry outside the tribe than a women ...

I'm sure that Kratman will be along soon to tell us that a man who marries outside his tribe will mold his auslander wife to fit the tribe, and the woman will be fairly willing to be molded. If the man is involved in raising his children, there is a very good chance they will assimilate fully as they grow up.

In short, a sprinkling of foreign wives are a very different thing than families of invaders living in Chinatown or Little Mogadishu.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass April 06, 2017 3:49 PM  

That should read there were

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 4:05 PM  

If/when things blow up in the US and Europe, Life is going to get challenging for the white mothers and their vibrant diverse children.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 06, 2017 4:21 PM  

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Blogger Theproductofafineeduction April 06, 2017 4:24 PM  

@76
Your pointing to a whole other problem and I agree it is a major problem.

@78
I wasn't making an apology argument towards civic nationalism just stating the fact that historically in the US how intermarriage broke down. Interestingly enough those same states make the argument on why we need to get it under control because you notice it shows that Hispanics aren't out marrying like other racial groups (again blacks are the exception for obvious reasons)there is a reason why and I think it's because Hispanics numbers have gotten high enough that they don't need to out marry. The other caveat being is that Hispanic can mean virtually anything as there are white Hispanics; I don't recall if they stipulated whether it was Hispanic or non-white Hispanic.

It also points to this reality for the people's of mix raced marriages and
children (and I am one of those) who are asking Vox "but what about me and mine?" It is in their own best interest to tamp down on immigration so America can digest (I also think it will take a lot longer to digest this lot if it is at all possible) It is even more imperative for those who have children who aren't passable and other productive minority groups.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 06, 2017 4:33 PM  

Steve Moss
What I do take exception to is the assertion that persons of Hispanic descent cannot be Americans. To my direct observation, they are frequently better and more patriotic Americans that many Americans of Anglo descent.

Your rhetoric is weak and predictable. Aside from the Cubans, "Hispanics" in the US tend to vote for the party of "more stuff". Even in the recent election over 2/3 of "Hispanics" voted for Hillary Rodan Robot. That means any area sufficiently Hispanic will become a one-party zone, a place that the Nancy Pelosi's can take for granted. Puerto Rico is solid blue zone. Parts of the border states from San Diego to Brownsville are solid blue now.

Spanish derived culture from Puerto Rico to Cuba to Mexico to El Salvador to Panama to Venezuela to Brazil to Argentina tends towards the autocratic. One party rule. A patron system, where a regional Big Man rules with the approval of the national Big Man, and either you get along with him or you get out. Venezuela and Cuba are the more extreme examples for now, but if you look back the last 200 years there have been others.

This is not exactly the Vermont town meeting style of governance. It's not what Jefferson, Adams, Madison and others wrote about in the Federalist papers. It's not American in the original sense.

What exactly do you mean by "patriotic American" anyway? Someone who tugs their forelock to Authority, obeys orders, and doesn't make too many problems? Or could there be more to it than that?

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 5:03 PM  

The white mothers with their vibrant diverse children are going to have a rough time if/when this all blows up and we go all Rawanda.
They are going to start questioning the value of those super diversity pokemon points

Anonymous Mr. Rational April 06, 2017 5:09 PM  

@83 They won't be questioning anything.  They'll be immediately identified as traitors and probably eliminated on the spot; certainly not let in.  And the tender mercies of their children's fathers' tribe will be precisely what they're trying to escape.

Their only route to survival will be to bury their mistakes (literally) and hope to go unrecognized.

Blogger VD April 06, 2017 8:05 PM  

What I do take exception to is the assertion that persons of Hispanic descent cannot be Americans. To my direct observation, they are frequently better and more patriotic Americans that many Americans of Anglo descent.

Stop cucking. They're not Americans at all, much less "better Americans". They're also not Martians. They neither know nor care about "the Rights of Englishmen", nor should you expect them to do so.

Anonymous Avalanche April 06, 2017 8:14 PM  

@18 "This whole AI business is like Cloud, Multimedia, Object-Oriented, just the latest buzzword from an industry eager to sell the latest load of buggy rubbish."

Oh, I dunno. Are you old enough to remember the laughter when Geo.Bush-the-first was sore amazed at seeing the self-checkout lanes and bar codes at the supermarket? And now everyone and everything has a bar code, and many people prefer the self checkout because it's quicker!

$15-an-hour nospeakadahhanglish "staff" is way less preferable to a nicely programmed robotic staff (if only we can get rid of the incapable indians doing the programming and let the White men have their jobs back!!

Anonymous BBGKB April 06, 2017 8:41 PM  

accept a bunch of low-IQ butt-ugly people mixing into our genepool, who strew garbage EVERYWHERE, flout the law, view drug peddling

Didn't you see the 84 lumber commercial showing the Mexican girl picking up the litter of other Mexicans?

What do you call a company in America where the CEO sends around a message saying an all-hands meeting is being moved because of Passover?

That's ablest against people caught stealing in moslem nations.

Anonymous Grayman April 06, 2017 8:50 PM  

How many cucks and trolls are going to try "what about me, my dark snowflake hide is different, I'm an american"?

Blogger Steve Moss April 07, 2017 12:11 AM  

So we're supposed to accept Mexification of our country,

No. We are Americans, not Mexicans. People of Hispanic descent are every bit as capable of becoming good Americans as those of Anglo, German, Swedish, Indian, etc.. descent. The test is whether they are willing to abandon their homeland's culture and become Americans. Many are. Some are not. Those have to go back.

The reverse, that their daughters marry our men. Historically that has been the case, it is, and has always been, more socially acceptable for a man to marry outside the tribe than a women be it racial, ethnic or religious tribe.

It's not a hard and fast rule, but I think this is more true than not.

There are very few Americans who are of 100% English descent anymore. Even during the Revolution, there were significant enclaves of Germans, Scots-Irish, Dutch, etc.

IIRC there 5 Mexicans among the defenders of the Alamo.

There were a more than that. You may be thinking of the native born Mexican Texans, of which there were 6-7. And numbered more than the native born Anglo Texans. Just about everyone at the Alamo was a Texan immigrant (whether white or brown). But they were not the entirety of the 182-257 men killed defending the Alamo. And many more fought for freedom during the Texas Revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders

http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/tejanopatriots.htm

Blogger Steve Moss April 07, 2017 12:57 AM  

Stop cucking. They're not Americans at all, much less "better Americans". They're also not Martians. They neither know nor care about "the Rights of Englishmen", nor should you expect them to do so.

In 1790 there were about 2.8 million Americans. Roughly 1.3 million were of English descent. That's slightly less than half of the USA. Blacks were about 20% of the population (so they've dropped 7-8% points since 1790). The balance were other Europeans and about 5% "other" (which I would guess refers to Indians, at least in part).

Currently non-Hispanic whites are 63% of the USA. This is down from 75-80% in 1790 (depending on what was meant by "other"). Hispanics at 17% more than account for the difference in whites, with other minorities making up for the decrease in blacks.

In fairness, most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were of Anglo descent, though many were not. At least nine were Irish. Others were of Scots, Welsh and Dutch descent. Rather than English ethnicity, the overwhelming common connection was religion and education (highly, even if self-taught like Franklin). 100% were Christian and all but one were Protestants of one sort or the other (Carroll was Catholic).

The data is the data. The USA was not a majority English descent nation (though it missed it by only a few points early on, and they had the bulk of the political power).

I think your hypothesis is a good one in that I believe there is truth in it. But it is not absolute and there are holes in it. If being capable of observation and communicating potential criticism of a hypothesis (whether I'm right or wrong) makes me a "cuck", well it's your word and you can assign whatever value your like to it.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 07, 2017 2:39 AM  

Individual behavior is clearly inherited. Nobody is a blank slate fanatic when it comes to their own family. It's commonly accepted that musical ability runs in families. It's no surprise that little Joe acts like his uncle Jake, or that little Jane is like her grandmother Alice.

Behavior is in part inherited. "Culture" is behavior on a larger group scale. The "culture" of Guerrero is not the same as the "culture" of Chiapas is not the same as the "culture" of Oaxaca; and none of them are the same as the "culture" of Paraguay.

Once you accept that behavior is at least partly inherited, that culture is behavior on a larger scale, then it should be obvious that "culture" is inherited at least in part. The mtDNA of most Mexicans is Indian. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter. The facts are what they are.

"Hispanics" are from patronistic, one-party, strong man societies. The English / Dutch / German / Scot-Irish colonies were not. Mexicans can learn to live under the Hajnal line rules, but it is not natural to them, it takes work on both sides. Others? Not so sure.

DIrect question to Steve Moss: define "Patriotic American".

Blogger phunktor April 07, 2017 2:41 AM  

@steve moss
My scots borderer half thinks you're a race traitor. My litvak half thinks you've got a point. Shall we spiral up or down from here? I think the sociodynamics of the purity meme are unhelpful in the time of building alliances.

Blogger American Spartan April 07, 2017 2:58 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:What else could immigration apologists mean by "assimilate"?

Here's what they mean: "Shut up."

On this topic, a week or so ago there was an article from a Jewish or Muslim college student or professor, I think, boasting about how America belongs to the world and we have no right to keep anyone from taking his piece and doing whatever he likes with it. I can't locate that back; does anyone know what I'm talking about and perhaps have a link?


Link?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents April 07, 2017 4:04 AM  

@91
Read further. Probably it was former President of Iran, Ahmawhackjob.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-belongs-to-all-nations-ex-iran-president-writes-a-letter-to-donald-trump/story-wtYgdky2DSNtcBde52AhVN.html

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents April 07, 2017 4:05 AM  

@91
Read further. Probably it was former President of Iran, Ahmawhackjob.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-belongs-to-all-nations-ex-iran-president-writes-a-letter-to-donald-trump/story-wtYgdky2DSNtcBde52AhVN.html

Blogger Elizabeth April 07, 2017 6:50 AM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:I knew a guy who was of Spanish ancestry. If you called him "Hispanic", he would politely correct you.

I have two neighbors married to one another: he's from Spain and she's from Cuba, but her parents are from Spain. So, legally, he's white and she's hispanic? I knew a blond attorney from Chile and he's lumped in with a pure-blooded Indian from Bolivia and a metiza from Mexico? I knew a redhaired ethnic Italian from Argentina - is she hispanic? There are more ethnic Italians than ethnic Spanish in Argentina - does the Spanish Maria Rodriguez benefit from set-asides, but not the Italian Maria Cucci, even though Maria Cucci is Spanish-speaking, too?

Blogger Tom Kratman April 07, 2017 7:11 AM  

@58:

There are, in fact, some differences that go beyond cuisine.

Beyond that, meh; nobody's going to be convinced here that those things they're just so certain of are false, or even questionable. And I don't have the time to waste this morning trying.

Blogger VD April 07, 2017 11:09 AM  

Spammed for lying, John Byde. Not very Christian of you.

Don't come back.

Blogger bosscauser April 07, 2017 3:43 PM  

Not a nation of slave ownership either.
Times they do change!

https://gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2017 6:01 PM  

The centerpiece of Leftist Liberalism is assumed equality....which is really an understatement. Indeed the full weight of Leftist Liberalism rests on the egalitarian article of faith. All people are the same and they are all equal and they are all interchangeable. One individual is absolutely a perfect substitute for another individual.
Any and all differences are strictly in the eye of the beholder or due to his own failings as a racist or sexist or xenophobe. Anyone who doubts or questions equality cannot live or work or function in a Leftist Liberal society, except in total secret.

When the assumption of Leftist Liberalism is equality, then foreign citizens are equal to American citizens....and one can be substituted for another, for the good of the country. Therefore, anyone who is opposed to Open Borders and unlimited migration of foreign citizens and automatic citizenship is anti-social and even unpatriotic, since more warm bodies mean more prosperity for everyone else.

Of course, it is a lie....because equality is a lie. There has never been equality, not in nature nor in any society. The Leftist Liberals promise a society that never existed anywhere based purely on assumed equality, that also never existed. But somehow, WE can make everything equal now....not just in the USA, but everywhere in the world.
Of course, it is pure rubbish.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2017 6:28 PM  

@92 Steve Moss
You reminded me of the nonsense arguments I usually have with Germans in the USA.
They will insist that German is the largest white ethnic in the USA and cite statistics that are drawn from the US CENSUS.....where people self-identify as one ethnic or another.
Of course, it is pure nonsense.

Germany did not even exist as a country until Bismark in the 1870s and anyone who has spent any time at all in modern Germany knows that the old principalities that were fused to create the German state, remain identifying markers for many Germans today. Being a Bavarian is more important to Bavarians than being a German.

At the same time, they disaggregate every single slice of British society into separate categories.....the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh, the Cornish, the English, the Normans, the Saxons, the Vikings....there is no end to it. All of whom were part and parcel of the United Kingdom from 1700. ALL of the 13 original colonies that later became the United States were British America and lived under British law, flag, money, custom, tradition, church, and courts.
Yes, the Dutch first settled in New Amsterdam, which later became New York. But William and Mary were also of the House of Orange, yet united the Kingdom under the new monarchy. William could barely speak English. George III was from Hanover, so they say he was a German king. Did that keep him from being British? Not in the least. Nor did it cause the Founding Stock of this country to be any less British either.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2017 10:51 PM  

@73 Yann
I am not going to blame you for your misinformation, since that is exactly the nonsense being taught these days in American colleges and universities.

But ask yourself....gently.....just where were the native inhabitants of this country expelled? Of course, they were not expelled anywhere. They still live here, in every single state. I live across the river from Cherokee country to the north and Choctaw country to the south. They are not gone anywhere and they certainly were never expelled.

Yes, there was a major migration from Europe to North America. There were major migrations from Asia to North America too. The original natives still live here.

For example.....The Native Hawaiians are a minority in Hawaii. There are many ethnic Japanese and Chinese in Hawaii. Not many Hispanics or Negroes. Excluding military and naval personnel (and their retirees), whites are certainly a minority in "their" Hawaii. Just who was expelled from Hawaii?

Anonymous Yankee Imperialist April 11, 2017 11:46 AM  

"But ask yourself....gently.....just where were the native inhabitants of this country expelled? Of course, they were not expelled anywhere."

They were expelled from their traditional lands.

"They still live here, in every single state. I live across the river from Cherokee country to the north and Choctaw country to the south. They are not gone anywhere and they certainly were never expelled."

The Cherokee that remained in Georgia lived in small, isolated communities and were deemed other than a serious threat to life and limb. The Cherokee that were forced to leave was the result of gold found on their land.

"Yes, there was a major migration from Europe to North America. There were major migrations from Asia to North America too. The original natives still live here."

Again, they live here in other than their traditional areas. Moreover, there are several extinct tribal groups as a result of European interaction.

"For example.....The Native Hawaiians are a minority in Hawaii. There are many ethnic Japanese and Chinese in Hawaii. Not many Hispanics or Negroes. Excluding military and naval personnel (and their retirees), whites are certainly a minority in "their" Hawaii. Just who was expelled from Hawaii?"

The better question is who should have been expelled from Hawaii.

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