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Saturday, July 15, 2017

A leading cause of death

Are you kidding me? ANOTHER Clinton-related "suicide":
Haiti Official, Who Exposed The Clinton Foundation, Found Dead In Miami

Klaus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week, has been found dead in Miami. He was 50.

Eberwein was due to appear next Tuesday before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors.

According to Miami-Dade’s medical examiner records supervisor, the official cause of death is “gunshot to the head“. Eberwein’s death has been registered as “suicide.”

Eberwein, who had acknowledged his life was in danger, was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation’s activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government’s economic development agency, Fonds d’assistance économique et social, for three years.

According to Eberwein, a paltry 0.6% of donations granted by international donors to the Clinton Foundation with the express purpose of directly assisting Haitians actually ended up in the hands of Haitian organizations. A further 9.6% ended up with the Haitian government. The remaining 89.8%  – or $5.4 billion – was funneled to non-Haitian organizations.

“The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year.
Are we really supposed to believe in this increasingly unlikely string of timely, but entirely coincidental suicides? That's two in a week! At this point, "investigating Hillary Clinton" must be rapidly approaching the top ten list of causes of death in America. Typhoid Mary was less lethal.

Can you imagine if she had won the presidency? There would have been an epidemic of "suicide" to rival Japan's WWII-era Divine Wind.

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84 Comments:

Anonymous Looking Glass July 15, 2017 6:08 AM  

Does "death by imported kebab" count in the Arkanicide stats? Because it's easy to forget the wanting to import 500,000 "refugees" part of her campaign.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 15, 2017 6:15 AM  

Also, praise the Lord every day of the week, and twice on Sundays, that Hiltery isn't President.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 15, 2017 6:16 AM  

Do all of those "suicides" carry their own guns with them? Must be, else police would rule foul play with a weapon that isn't registered to them

PA

Blogger #7139 July 15, 2017 6:19 AM  

...That's two in a week! ...

Someone or certain someones are getting mighty desperate if they need to knock off two associates in one week.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy July 15, 2017 6:22 AM  

paworldandtimes wrote:Do all of those "suicides" carry their own guns with them? Must be, else police would rule foul play with a weapon that isn't registered to them
Remember that Andrew Breitbart allegedly died of a heart attack, and then the medical examiner that declared his death to be natural also allegedly died of a heart attack. Don't ever assume that they're really going to the trouble of faking a suicide when they could more easily fake the whole investigation.

Blogger Achilles July 15, 2017 6:25 AM  

These things happen in threes. Bad time to tell you all that I've been investigating the Cli....

Anonymous MIG July 15, 2017 6:43 AM  

He could have been killed by some lower-level local criminals who feared exposure.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 6:50 AM  

Honestly, I think it's a mistake to absolutely the Clintons are the shot callers. I'm sure the parties that have the Clintons in their pockets probably contact the hit men. It's entirely possible that some powerful third party/parties are informing the Clintons who is about to commit suicide. Whatever enemies of theirs need disposing of, I am guessing, are handled by third parties who have a vested interest in keeping the CLintons from being in a position to roll over on them. I could be wrong, but it's not a theory I ever see floated. They're dirty as fuck and have no qualms about a massive death toll, but I seriously doubt they have anything in a hands on role of making the arrangements. I'm not defending them, but it is quite possible that the parties they answer to are calling these shots.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 6:51 AM  

to absolutely conclude that*

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club July 15, 2017 6:59 AM  

If "the parties they answer to" were really worried about the Clintons rolling over on them, why not just whack them? She's not Prez and never will hold an important office again, he's nearly dead, and their Hubbell daughter is useless.

Anonymous Jack July 15, 2017 7:02 AM  

Everyone knows that Francis and Clare Underwood on House of Cards are the Clintons. They're certainly living up to it.

What I find amusing is that the media will go to great lengths to defend the Clintons from all accusations, yet they will praise that show to the skies. And indeed, it is well done. But I think part of the reason is that it gives them a way to acknowledge a reality that they won't otherwise acknowledge.

Blogger Mr. Excitement July 15, 2017 7:04 AM  

I remember reading something a few years ago that some statistician did an analysis of a couple of people (i.e., the Clintons) having so many people in their orbit die mysteriously, commit suicide, or die of not natural causes.

The number was approaching infinity.

Anonymous DirkH July 15, 2017 7:05 AM  

Blessed be the suicidees for they shall receive life insurance payouts, sayeth Judeo Christ.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 7:05 AM  

Tatooine, certainly it isn't beyond the pale that there are people in the network of evil whose power/reach equals or exceeds that of the Clintons. They're in bed with a lot of billionaires whose global power rivals or exceeds their own. Perhaps my "rolling over on them" was a poor choice of phrase and I'm not even asserting that my theory is correct, merely noting that it's possible. There are plenty of people in their network whose interests in these matters equal that of the Clintons and have comparable, if not greater, means to see these things carried out. If I foresaw the need for future assassinations, I'd have a trusted party on retainer to do all the planning/execution of future loose ends. Don't tell me how or when, just let me know when it's done. Can we at least agree that getting away with assassinations is easier the less details you know?

Anonymous Looking Glass July 15, 2017 7:12 AM  

One of Bill's girlfriends, who was likely pregnant with his child, ended up dead. I'm still fairly convinced that one of the groups over the Clintons had her killed to make sure the Clintons always stayed in line.

The Clintons are conduits, not Kingpins. It's been that way for a long time. They sold their souls for the power & money that came with it. They're the ultimate sellouts, which is why they're so destructive. Everything is for sale and they'll keep drinking until the pain stops.

Seth Rich hit was almost assuredly done by SEIU connected thugs. Who themselves ended up dead as well. (It's not Oswald that's important, it's who was running Ruby? They've been using this trick for a long time.)

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 7:18 AM  

Conduits, not kingpins, I like that. I'm sure every deal made by people of sufficient power/status/value in this network of evil comes with mutual blackmail agreements and everything is secured with "in the event of my death" protocols. It's no secret that people at high levels of various unlawful organizations secure their arrangements with blackmail. When one speculates as to the matter of degree or frequency, one might enter conspiracy theory territory, but the fact that it happens is uncontestable.

Blogger Salt July 15, 2017 7:21 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:They sold their souls for the power & money that came with it.

Not so sure. Looking at Hillary, I'm thinking Satan is trans.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 7:23 AM  

Please respect Satan's genderfluidity by adding an asterisk to the end of trans*. To imply that Satan maintains a constant gender, let alone one in the gender binary, is disrespectful to xir identity. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 15, 2017 7:26 AM  

The very rich are different.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 15, 2017 7:32 AM  

paworldandtimes wrote:Do all of those "suicides" carry their own guns with them? Must be, else police would rule foul play with a weapon that isn't registered to them

PA




Over most of the country, firearms are not registered.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 15, 2017 7:44 AM  

The former director general of Haiti, who also served as an advisor to Haitian President Michel Martelly, was also a partner in a popular pizza restaurant in Haiti, Muncheez, and even has a pizza — the Klaus Special — named after him.

Blogger Roger Hill July 15, 2017 7:58 AM  

You'd think The American Psychiatric Association would look into this. There must be something very depressing about exposing the Clinton Foundation.

Anonymous Get the Funk Out July 15, 2017 8:22 AM  

Do the Clintons have a drop or two of blood on their hands? Possibly. Probably. Nevertheless, their calling from those humble beginnings in Arkansas, was to aid and comfort the poor and downtrodden wherever that would lead them.

Now we all know omelettes are not made without breaking some eggs. The Clintons have had to break some eggs over the years but such is the system they endeavored to overcome for the greater good. Undeniably the ends justify the means.

Blogger Basil Makedon July 15, 2017 8:59 AM  

As a long time Clinton watcher, I've noticed that the deaths are clustered when they are under pressure. Is something happening now that is causing them to take out contracts?

Anonymous 7817 July 15, 2017 9:13 AM  

If team NeverTrump had been successful, this suicide squad would be in charge of the country now.

Anonymous BBGKB July 15, 2017 9:14 AM  

Was this the guy that TRUMP meet with on the campaign trail who spoke of the Clinton's Haiti corruption?

Bad time to tell you all that I've been investigating the Cli....

Just so everyone knows I will not commit suicide if any of the following people are still drawing breath. The Supreme courts Wise Latrina, (((Elena Kagan, Stephen Breyer, Ginsberg))), George Soros+Spawn, Saudi Royal family, continued at livejournal.

Must be, else police would rule foul play with a weapon that isn't registered to them

The guns are not illegal they are undocumented.

mutual blackmail agreements and everything is secured with "in the event of my death" protocols

Maybe if someone started sniping these people off one of the dead man switches would have enough Epstein Island pictures to take out the whole DNC

Blogger James Dixon July 15, 2017 9:16 AM  

The real question is how long before someone on the Clinton hit list decides a long term jail sentence is better than a death sentence and takes her out themselves?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 15, 2017 9:27 AM  

The gun found in Vince Foster's hand was a revolver built of parts from a couple of different guns with no record in the DC registration system. Foster's widow had never seen it before. That whole "registered gun" thing is easy to sidestep.

Blogger James Dixon July 15, 2017 9:27 AM  

> Honestly, I think it's a mistake to absolutely the Clintons are the shot callers. ... I'm not defending them, but it is quite possible that the parties they answer to are calling these shots.

Oh, the parties they answer to are calling the shots. But I strongly suspect those parties are even worse than you're thinking. I suspect the spirit cooking, pizza, and hot dogs are only the tip of the iceberg. This many successfully pulled off deaths stinks of supernatural assistance.

Blogger praetorian July 15, 2017 9:39 AM  

This is the other "suicide":

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-14/republican-operative-behind-confusing-wsj-bombshell-committed-suicide

Anonymous andon July 15, 2017 9:44 AM  

they just had that guy kill himself a few months ago who was supposed to be investigating voter fraud nationally. That was in Florida too, wasnt it?

Blogger bosscauser July 15, 2017 9:52 AM  

Obviously the elites have special rules!

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 10:14 AM  

Fake news. There is no source for this quote “The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” anywhere on the internet older than two days ago.

He was an uber driver in Miami.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 10:19 AM  

Also, http://yournewswire.com... Was that the "most reputable" source you could find carrying this story?

Anonymous andon July 15, 2017 10:32 AM  

^^^ makes good point

i did find this link, not sure how reputable "Miami Herald" is though, sounds like a real newspaper fwiw

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article160983614.html

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky July 15, 2017 10:38 AM  

The Clintons are crime bosses. This has been evident from day one. It's been like watching the Sopranos, to tell you the truth.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 10:41 AM  

Andon, thanks for posting that. Maybe you can point me to where in that article the quote about the Clintons is, or any mention of the Clinton Foundation and Eberwein's involvement with it?

In fact, based on the Miami Herald and Haiti Libre, Eberwein had his own problems completely unrelated in anyway whatsoever to the Clintons.

yournewswire.com is fake news. You guys should be more discerning. But like I said earlier, the quality in VP commenter has been steadily declining. So maybe I'm expecting too much.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2017 10:54 AM  

The number was approaching infinity.

At this point, it's probably even higher than the odds of someone shorting cattle futures at the perfect time for big gains a dozen times in a row.

If team NeverTrump had been successful, this suicide squad would be in charge of the country now.

#NeverForget

Blogger VD July 15, 2017 10:55 AM  

But like I said earlier, the quality in VP commenter has been steadily declining. So maybe I'm expecting too much.

Concern Troll is Concerned. You probably are expecting too much and therefore should stop commenting here.

Blogger VD July 15, 2017 10:56 AM  

Was that the "most reputable" source you could find carrying this story?

The funny thing is that you would believe it if it was broadcast on CNN.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 15, 2017 11:03 AM  

@27 The Clintons have round-the-clock Secret Service protection. Of course, these days that and a buck fifty gets you a cheap cup of coffee.

Anonymous andon July 15, 2017 11:06 AM  

@ VD - imo he makes valid criticisms

Blogger seeingsights July 15, 2017 11:08 AM  

It just so happens that I'm reading about psychotronics--machines that affect consciousness. Allegedly there are machines which, at a distance, can do nasty things such as make someone agitated, suicidal, suffer a heart attack, hear voices in the head and so forth.
I wouldn't be surprised if psychotronic weapons were used against people who are a threat to the Clintons.

Blogger Thucydides July 15, 2017 11:11 AM  

I would hope that by now anyone with association with the Clintons is placing vital information in sealed envelopes "to be opened in event of my death". I'm pretty sure that anyone with association with the Obamas should start considering this course of action as well, just in case......

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2017 11:13 AM  

If "the parties they answer to" were really worried about the Clintons rolling over on them, why not just whack them?

What do you think the Spirit Cooking is for? Protection.

Whatever enemies of theirs need disposing of, I am guessing, are handled by third parties who have a vested interest in keeping the CLintons from being in a position to roll over on them. I could be wrong, but it's not a theory I ever see floated.

I saw it floated on this blog in the last couple days, and I've suggested it before myself. I don't think anyone assumes they're personally calling the hit man and delivering the payoff in unmarked bills to a park at midnight. Presumably they have people for that, and those people may have the autonomy to eliminate problems without direct orders, thereby giving their bosses more deniability. Sometimes a problem might be eliminated without their foreknowledge by associates who have shared secrets to protect. None of that is relevant to their moral culpability, though.

Also, some of these people are twisted enough that they may want the thrill of being in on the action, despite (because of) the risk.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 15, 2017 11:15 AM  

Not doubt (((snopes))) and other fearless seekers of facts who serve as the dim-flickers of the (((gaslight media))) will set us straight about these unfounded wild conspiracy theories about a hard-working hillbilly family whose humble origins are a log cabin in scenic Bovine Coprolite Mountains of Arkansas.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 15, 2017 11:41 AM  

Is something happening now that is causing them to take out contracts?

Possible factors:

Several major pedophile ring / child porn busts lately.

Congress has requested interviews with several of Obama's people who are bound to know about at least a portion of their crimes, having to do with the campaign and/or State Dept. activities, if not worse.

The investigation into their campaign fraud is just getting started.

Most important, they aren't in power where they can easily trade favors anymore, and their media friends are losing their ability to defend them. None of these things show any sign of just going away like they did in the past. From their side, it must feel like the walls are closing in.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 11:45 AM  

The funny thing is that you would believe it if it was broadcast on CNN.

Maybe (((I))) would, depends on what the actual sources said when followed back. In this case, this is obviously fake news, you can see the foundation of the story they used in the Miami Herald and Haiti Libre articles, and then they added all the Clinton stuff at some point yesterday and then disseminated it to other crappy sites (like yournewswire.com). This isn't rocket surgery.

Anonymous Just another commenter July 15, 2017 11:48 AM  

I tried to explain Arkencide to the spouse and kids a while back. They laughed, said it was just conspiracy theory garbage. For a while, each time I told them about yet another coincidental suicide or unexpected tragedy, they'd get a momentary "oh, shit, maybe they really are that evil" look; they were afraid I might be right. Now when I tell my kids about it, they are like "what, another one?" like I was telling them it was Tuesday. They know the politicians are corrupt and the evil ones are lethal, and getting more ready to argue it in class every day.

Anonymous Get the Funk Out July 15, 2017 11:55 AM  

Übermensch wrote:Fake news. There is no source for this quote “The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” anywhere on the internet older than two days ago.

He was an uber driver in Miami.


What is most troubling is this commenter's google-fu is so weak they couldn't find this quote from a BBC News article dated Nov. 2, 2016. Also the quote is attributed to a Dahoud Andre, Haitian activist.


But like I said earlier, the quality in VP commenter has been steadily declining. So maybe I'm expecting too much.

It appears more should be expected of yourself, scolder.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:04 PM  

Get the Funk Out, right... so you are confirming that there is nothing attributing this quote "The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” to Eberwein and that yournewswire.com and others patched together various sources to create fake news. Thanks.

Blogger DonReynolds July 15, 2017 12:11 PM  

The first time I met Hillary Clinton was in 1980. We were seated next to each other at the head table during the state realtors convention. She was there to speak on behalf of Bill, who was running for his first re-election. I was there as head of the small business association, speaking on behalf of his opponent. That was the only election Bill ever lost.

And I am glad to report that I have not committed suicide yet....due to the encounter with Hillary.

You would not recognize her today as being the same person. She was very thin and short, kept her hair in a bun on the top-rear of her head, wore cat-eye glasses. Her hair was a kinky frizzy golden color...much like Chelsea's used to be. She wore no makeup, but she did wear polyester pants and a little acrylic (unmatching) sweater ....both looked like they had been stolen from the Goodwill Box. Her speech was written out longhand and she read it word for word, without any enthusiasm. During the lunch, she read over the pages of the speech several times while eating. I could not have hoped for a better speaking opponent.

Anonymous Get the Funk Out July 15, 2017 12:15 PM  

It certainly confirms your subpar commenting. It took five seconds to find the BBC News article from Nov 2016 which refutes your statement: There is no source for this quote anywhere on the internet older than two days ago.


Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:19 PM  

My apologies, I should have said "There is no source attributing this quote to Eberwein anywhere on the internet older than two days ago". I figured it was obvious given the yournewswire article and the context.

Would you agree that in addition to my subpar commenting, it also confirms that yournewswire.com is fake news?

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:20 PM  

Here is the full quote from yournewswire, which we can now see, thanks to Get the Funk Out, is fabricated (and unsourced!!!)

“The Clinton Foundation, they are criminals, they are thieves, they are liars, they are a disgrace,” Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year.

Blogger DonReynolds July 15, 2017 12:25 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:The number was approaching infinity.

At this point, it's probably even higher than the odds of someone shorting cattle futures at the perfect time for big gains a dozen times in a row.


#NeverForget


Cail.....some people are just plain lucky. Don't you remember how many times during the 2016 Democrat primary season that the contest with Bernie was so close in a state it was decided by a coin toss....and every cotton-pickin time, Hillary won the toss!

Blogger dc.sunsets July 15, 2017 12:39 PM  

Three observations:
1) Given the pervasiveness of spying & "intelligence" observations it's all but certain that multiple organizations chronicled each and every assassination within Arkancide, so it's like a loose affiliation of criminal conspiracies covering for each other.
2) In most cases it seems unnecessary to actually kill a target; I'd bet that most of the time a potential leaker just gets a few photos of their wife, daughter, grandson, etc. framed in the reticle of one of the new generation of rifle sights that can display on a smartphone.
3) Given the money sloshing around all of these organizations (whether private crooks like the Clinton Foundation or publicly funded criminal conspiracies like the CIA or NSA) I'd bet most of the time it's easier & cheaper to simply bribe for closed mouths. Unless of course the principals involved believe themselves so above the law that they can murder with impunity because both the following investigation & the scribes chronicling it are bought & paid for.

(Light bulb)

Blogger DonReynolds July 15, 2017 12:42 PM  

MIG wrote:He could have been killed by some lower-level local criminals who feared exposure.

Who did the deed is not nearly as interesting as the Why.
I suspect, he needed Mo Money and thought he could shake the Money Tree for another payout. Many people would think it a good time to squeeze the Clinton Foundation for a few pieces of silver, since they do not actually need bad publicity, and it would distract some of the media from roasting Trump. When he was refused, he may have tried to speed things up by offering testimony....and it did speed things up.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:43 PM  

In addition, here is another source demonstrating how fake news is born.

Real News (Jamaica Observer)
He was scheduled to go before the Haitian Senate's Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission next Tuesday as the commission investigates the management of PetroCaribe funds, the money Haiti receives from Venezuela's discounted oil programme.

Fake News (yournewswire.com and now voxday.blogspot.com)
Eberwein was due to appear next Tuesday before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors.

Blogger Duh-ave July 15, 2017 12:43 PM  

CM It matters not if a gun is registered by your state. Records must be kept. If a gun is found, the ATF calls the Maker who IDs the Wholesaler who IDs the gun store who IDs the customer, etc. This happens even if the gun was merely owned by the perp but not used in the crime. They know whose gun it is.

Blogger Elder Son July 15, 2017 12:45 PM  

And 17 intelligence agencies have no dirt on the Clinton's.

Anonymous Get the Funk Out July 15, 2017 12:45 PM  

Would you agree that in addition to my subpar commenting, it also confirms that yournewswire.com is fake news?

It neither confirms nor disproves the yournewswire.com story. In your rush to judgement you have declared the quote was fabricated. What proof do you have that Eberwein never spoke these words? The BBC News article mentions protests (see below) outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters and campaign offices ongoing over a number of years. What is a common activity at a protest? Chanting. Repeating the same phrases over and over.


"The Clinton family, they are crooks, they are thieves, they are liars," says Haitian activist Dahoud Andre.
He has been leading protests outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign base in Brooklyn for the last two years.
He said protesters from his small activist group, the Committee to Mobilize Against Dictatorship in Haiti, will continue to level their allegations - so far all unproven - if the Democratic candidate wins the White House.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:50 PM  

Proof? None. Any evidence Eberwein spoke those words? Also none.

Believe what you want though.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 12:52 PM  

Also, is there any evidence Eberwein was at that protest with Andre? I'm not seeing any.

Blogger Daniel July 15, 2017 1:04 PM  

In argentina we had a lot of suicides related to former president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. The most known one was a fiscal (prosecutor) that "killed himself" the day before he was going to present proofs before the congress about Cristina Fernandez... this is fucked up. I'm pretty sure they belong to the same high level corrupted elite

Anonymous Get the Funk Out July 15, 2017 1:09 PM  

Eberwein said at a protest outside the Clinton Foundation headquarters in Manhattan last year.

We could go on all day about this...what proof is there that Andre was at the protest? I'm not the one claiming what is or isn't fake news.

Anonymous Übermensch July 15, 2017 1:44 PM  

GtFO; you should look through the blog archives, Vox explains the difference between evidence and proof pretty well.

Anonymous Battlefrog July 15, 2017 1:46 PM  

VD wrote:The funny thing is that you would believe it if it was broadcast on CNN.

I'm not saying this is fake news, but when CNN is forced to broadcast something counter-narrative, it is almost certainly fact. So, with this story, I actually would consider it practically 100% verified if CNN reported it.

I suppose this heuristic wouldn't apply if you consider CNN's lies to be a consequence of rank incompetence rather than systematic deception.

Blogger Cloudbuster July 15, 2017 1:59 PM  

Duh-ave wrote:They know whose gun it is.

There is no record kept of private transactions in most states. If I sell a gun I bought at a gun store to a private individual, I am not required to keep a record of who that person is. That person, in turn, can sell it to a private individual. So, no, often they do not know whose gun it is.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 15, 2017 2:47 PM  

those people may have the autonomy to eliminate problems without direct orders, thereby giving their bosses more deniability. Sometimes a problem might be eliminated without their foreknowledge by associates who have shared secrets to protect. None of that is relevant to their moral culpability, though.

Oh, I couldn't possibly agree more. The only reason it's relevant is to know whose money to watch and who to put surveillance on. If the hitters have autonomy or the shot callers are third parties, one wouldn't find evidence through the Clintons financial records, phone records etc. Unfortunately, they're so close to death's door that little can be done to threaten them at this point. I do hope they live long enough to see their legacy shamed, that's the best case scenario at this point.

Blogger Abdul July 15, 2017 3:30 PM  

@15 @16 In some cases they use missing (then murdered) aboriginal women, kompramat video, and a pig farm (like in Snatch).

Then people are surprised when the commission of inquiry looking into missing and murdered aboriginal women is stalled.

Blogger Duh-ave July 15, 2017 4:59 PM  

Cloudbuster: If you are the last in the line of ownership and give some weak story about "can't remember" or "it was stolen but didn't report", you will become a PERSON OF INTEREST. Who wants that? They may ask you if Mr. Suicide's name rings a bell. Got unusual income? It's a bigger handle than you think.

Anonymous CoolHand July 15, 2017 8:27 PM  

Duh-ave wrote:Cloudbuster: If you are the last in the line of ownership and give some weak story about "can't remember" or "it was stolen but didn't report", you will become a PERSON OF INTEREST. Who wants that? They may ask you if Mr. Suicide's name rings a bell. Got unusual income? It's a bigger handle than you think.

You're not understanding.

Private sales in nearly all states in the US ARE NOT TRACKED. No FFL involved, no BG check bullshit, no paperwork at all.

If a gun you bought from an FFL and subsequently sold turns up at a crime scene, when the cops come to you (IF they come to you), you tell them you sold it and when, and that's it.

They can "look into" you all they like, but if you really didn't kill anyone, they'll figure that out pretty fast.

No longer having a gun that was traced to a crime is NOT enough evidence to even charge someone in most places in the US, because there are dozens of ways to dispose of a firearm that are not illegal in any way and do not produce a paper trail of any kind.

I know this law stone cold, because I'm an FFL holder, so I have to know what I can and cannot do legally speaking vis a vis firearm sales, to keep my tit out of the wringer with the feds.

It's not even illegal for ME to sell my personal firearms without performing a BG check or even taking down anyone's name, but the ATF "suggests" that you document those sales as well.

For a private person with no federal license induced encumbrances, what you do with your personal property after the initial FFL purchase is none of anyone's business, even in the eyes of the law.

This is why the leftists want Universal BG Checks so badly, because it would become a defacto registration scheme for every gun in circulation, as even older weapons would eventually enter the system through a subsequent sale.

This is the reason that I spend much of my time developing kits for and encouraging people to take up building firearms from 80% kits (or from scratch, for the advanced tinkerer). When you produce them privately, nobody anywhere knows it happened or where they all are, which makes gun control entirely unworkable.

Anonymous CoolHand July 15, 2017 8:32 PM  

Also, a meme for the current situation.

https://kek.gg/i/4xjn-V.jpg

Got kek.gg to work finally! Woooo!

Anonymous SlavaRossiya July 15, 2017 10:54 PM  

Testing.

The FBI are behind the Clinton ordered assassinations.

If people who read my FBI monitoring dispatches don't see me going off on crazy rants the next few days they'll know what happened. I'm a special brand of insane the FBI won't be able to fake.

The FBI are insanely left hence all the shit they try to get to stick to Trump. They bricked my newest phone last night for watching clips of Yeltsin shell the Russian White House. They've been pissy the past few weeks because it turns out handing over truth telling shitposts over to the members you're telling the truth about doesn't lead to rational discussion it leads to attempted jumpings. They're pissed as hell I fought back instead of bending over and dropping my pants. Turns out when nurses pull that shit you can get them fired for breaking HIPPA laws which is a plus.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 16, 2017 2:47 AM  

@Ubermensch

"yournewswire.com is fake news."

They're affiliated with CNN? That's terrible. Source?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 16, 2017 3:14 AM  

@Untermensch

Actually, this is a far better example of how fake news is constructed:
The notorious UVA rape hoax dreamed up by Rolling Stone, Sabrina Erdeley, and Jackie Coakley.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/06/rolling-stones-uva-rape-hoax-why-dont-we-know-jackies-last-name/

Or you could ask Dmitri Alperovitch. I hear he's pretty good at generating fake news...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 16, 2017 3:17 AM  

@Get the Funk Out

"It neither confirms nor disproves the yournewswire.com story. In your rush to judgement you have declared the quote was fabricated."

Clearly, being caught in an egregious lie only further enhances Untermensch's credibility.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 16, 2017 10:14 AM  

Duh-ave wrote:Cloudbuster: If you are the last in the line of ownership and give some weak story about "can't remember" or "it was stolen but didn't report", you will become a PERSON OF INTEREST.

You don't get it. Guns change hands often, for cash. Unless I was dealing with a friend, I never knew a name for the other party in the bargain. The guns that stay in the family were mostly bought pre-68, and some don't even have serial numbers.

In short, tracing a gun from the factory to the last reported transaction is only possible with very new guns, and is unlikely to tell you anything meaningful.

Blogger James July 16, 2017 10:40 AM  

James Dixon wrote:The real question is how long before someone on the Clinton hit list decides a long term jail sentence is better than a death sentence and takes her out themselves?

I'm pretty sure assassinating a former Secretary of State would get you the death penalty. Of course, you could appeal for a few years before your execution. You'd only have to watch your back in the shower, yard, meal rooms, in your sleep, etc.

It is hilarious to me how fake news and libtards focus on absurd instances that can bolster the Russian/Trump narrative, but a series of "suicides" in which the person stabbed himself in the back 30 or 40 times can't possibly be due to the Clintons.

Blogger Michael Maier July 16, 2017 1:20 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Duh-ave wrote:Cloudbuster: If you are the last in the line of ownership and give some weak story about "can't remember" or "it was stolen but didn't report", you will become a PERSON OF INTEREST.

You don't get it. Guns change hands often, for cash. Unless I was dealing with a friend, I never knew a name for the other party in the bargain. The guns that stay in the family were mostly bought pre-68, and some don't even have serial numbers.

In short, tracing a gun from the factory to the last reported transaction is only possible with very new guns, and is unlikely to tell you anything meaningful.


IT'S THE EVIL GUN-SHOW LOOPHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blogger Were-Puppy July 16, 2017 5:22 PM  

@31 andon
they just had that guy kill himself a few months ago who was supposed to be investigating voter fraud nationally. That was in Florida too, wasnt it?
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There was a couple guys found dead near Miami that had something to do with Doberman WTF-Shitz threatening some cops about looking into the matter.

Anonymous BBGKB July 16, 2017 7:00 PM  

conspiracies like the CIA or NSA) I'd bet most of the time it's easier & cheaper to simply bribe for closed mouths.

It could never make sense of jews hatred of freiers (suckers like the founding fathers & boy scouts) until I figured out it meant being resilient to bribes.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 18, 2017 10:32 PM  

James wrote:I'm pretty sure assassinating a former Secretary of State would get you the death penalty.

Killing a Clinton you had investigated would be clear-cut self defence.

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