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Wednesday, September 06, 2017

The "Andrew Anglin" style guide

As I correctly observed from their various writing styles, there are multiple "Andrew Anglins" who are presently running from their scheduled debate with me tonight. This style guide was sent by a former ghostwriter for the Daily Stormer. It is quite long, complete with lists of acceptable slurs and swear words and unacceptable ones, so I've just posted some of the sections that I found to be particularly informative.

The funniest thing, at least for this GamerGater, was learning that the model for the Daily Stormer is Gawker. How very appropriate. This version was clearly written in 2016, sometime before Donald Trump's election but after he secured the Republican nomination.

To quote the email, "You are right that many people post under 'Andrew Anglin.'"
This is the Anglin's style guide,

Byline

The byline is entered manually. It should be entered thusly at the top of the page:

    Andrew Anglin
    Daily Stormer
    Month Day, Year

Article Body

There should always be a header image at the top of an article. A YouTube clip can also fill this spot.

The basic format should usually be:

    A bit of commentary
    Quote from mainstream news source
    A bit more commentary

You can also break up the quote from the mainstream source and interject commentary. You can use multiple sources.

Quote Method

There is almost never a need to completely rewrite a story. It is legal under fair use laws to quote large parts of an article, as long as you don't quote the whole thing, and you can use this to get the basic facts of the story stated, rather than just retyping them.

There are several reasons I have settled on this model. Initially, I tried rewriting stories, but found that this was time consuming and pointless. I've also realized that the quote system serves to break-up the text in a way that is appealing to the ADHD demographic we are targeting. Moreover, being able to see the mainstream source quoted allows us to co-opt the perceived authority of the mainstream media, and not look like one of these sites we are all probably familiar with where you are never certain if what they are saying has been confirmed.

The site is in many ways modeled of of successful liberal blogs such as Gawker. They have produced a successful method to appeal to the same age demographic we want to appeal to.

As a side, the contrast between the mainstream writing style and our own humorous, snarky style can be funny.
It's surprisingly well-structured, and in some ways, is more informative than the AP style manual. However, the nastiness, the shamelessness, and the intrinsic dishonesty that I find so contemptible about the Anglins shines through.
Prime Directive: Always Blame the Jews for Everything

As Hitler says in Mein Kampf, people will become confused and disheartened if they feel there are multiple enemies. As such, all enemies should be combined into one enemy, which is the Jews. This is pretty much objectively true anyway, but we want to leave out any and all nuance.

So no blaming Enlightenment though, pathological altruism, technology/urbanization, etc. - just blame Jews for everything.

This basically includes blaming Jews for the behavior of other non-Whites. Of course it should not be that they are innocent, but the message should always be that if we didn't have the Jews we could figure out how to deal with non-Whites very easily.

The same deal with women. Women should be attacked, but there should always be mention that if it wasn't for the Jews, they would be acting normally.

What should be completely avoided is the sometimes mentioned idea that "even if we got rid of the Jews we would still have all these other problems." The Jews should always be the beginning and the end of every problem, from poverty to poor family dynamics to war to the destruction of the rainforest....
The way they always talk about the Daily Stormer being "the biggest Alt-Right site" is not an accident. Also, it's almost certainly not true. These guys inflate their statistics and exaggerate their popularity and influence to an extent that almost rivals John Scalzi. If you notice, I have nearly three times more followers on Gab than Anglin, 19,209 compared to 7,517, probably because it is much harder to create fake accounts and buy followers on Gab than on Twitter.  I expect that they have been manipulating the Alexa rankings in the way I have demonstrated can be done with as few as 30 people. And the repetitive talk about "how much he's done" and how "super interesting he is" is just more of this constantly self-inflating, self-marketing puffery.
Positivity

We are covering very negative content, generally, but still as much effort as possible should be put into presenting a positive message. We should always claim we are winning, and should celebrate any wins with extreme exaggeration.

This does not mean we downplay the enemy, just that we play up ourselves. We overestimate our influence.
No wonder they cucked and ran; the lead Anglin belatedly realized there was no way he was going to be able to claim he'd won after a debate with me. This also explains why a few of his followers, who may be Anglin ghostwriters themselves, have been falsely claiming that I was the one who ran away, not the Anglins.

Tyler Bourbon @AureliuSS
I can't believe believr @voxday cucked out on the debate! Sad!

And lest you think that the Anglins are just performance art, as I pointed out, they are playing the Jon Stewart game of "kidding, not kidding... wait, I'm just a clown" in order to preemptively fend off merited criticism.
I will say that probably my greatest mistake with this site was condemning Dylan Roof. In my own defense, I was pretty pissed off. Because there were a lot of places where he could have shot young adult nigger males engaged in something other than prayer. Still, I should have simply suggested that (which I did do) without saying "I condemn."
Finally, notice that the Anglins merit zero sympathy for being kicked off Cloudflare, as their principle of celebrating people as secret Nazis is precisely what got them into trouble there.
No Criticism of Other White Activists

This goes without saying but I'll say it anyway: there should never be any criticism of other white activists, even faggots we all fucking hate.

There is nothing profitable which can come of this. And this is the biggest site, so by attacking others who are wrong all we would be doing is giving them attention they wouldn't otherwise have gotten.

Responding to the bullshit of RamZPaul was a mistake I made which I won't make again.

In general, other white activists should be praised as heroes or by mentioned at all. I think we all probably know who is who as far as all that goes.

Note that this doesn't necessarily apply to all mainstream right wing figures such as Marine Le Pen.

Attacking Mainstreaming Shills

Pro-Jew shills should be attacked. These include Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes and Milo. At the same time, they should also be accused/celebrated as secret Nazis whenever they post anything that lines up with our agenda.

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143 Comments:

Anonymous Fuck off September 06, 2017 4:47 AM  

This is perhaps the best argument for why the Alt-Right is the Alt-Reich.

The author of the Alt-Right talking points wants to argue with the author of the art-Riech.

All y'all are terrible. Go away.

Blogger Matt September 06, 2017 4:53 AM  

@ F Off

Wut

Blogger Matthew Funk September 06, 2017 4:59 AM  

Nice, your spy came through in a big way.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable September 06, 2017 5:22 AM  

Makes me suspect the goal at the DS was nothing more serious than misdirection: cartoon Nazis as bogeymen. Nobody who actually believes anything is this manipulative and cynical.

Hmm ... let's speculate ... (((who))) might benefit most by keeping the NatSoc threat alive in 2017?

Anonymous Rocklea September 06, 2017 5:22 AM  

The Andrew Anglins' methodology is entirely consistent with its blame the Jews heuristic. Perhaps another possible reason for the rescheduling/cancellation is that Vox doesn't shill for the Jews.

Blogger Makeshift September 06, 2017 5:33 AM  

Anglin is a creep, Johnson a snarky gay, Spencer a vain autist, Vox has dad joke tier memes. All the heroes are dying.

Blogger JACIII September 06, 2017 5:48 AM  

Makeshift wrote:Anglin is a creep, Johnson a snarky gay, Spencer a vain autist, Vox has dad joke tier memes. All the heroes are dying.

Everybody loves Dad jokes. Just ask my kids.

I gotta say, Alt-retard is starting to look more and more Fed and/or opposition influenced than ever. Take any openly subversive already marginalized group, count the visible members and add 10% = Feds or opposition schemers. That's a WAG, but a place to start.

Blogger Aaron Swenson September 06, 2017 5:53 AM  

Can we get fuckin nuked already?

Anonymous Rocklea September 06, 2017 5:57 AM  

The SDL of The ELoE is collecting monikers like Daenerys Targaryen. Perhaps a #DadJokes for DailyMemeWars today, seems to have legs, the daily dad joke. SDL of The ELoE and The DDJ.

Blogger Matthew Funk September 06, 2017 6:04 AM  

The Jews should always be the beginning and the end of every problem, from poverty to poor family dynamics to war to the destruction of the rainforest....

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame you.

Anonymous Martin September 06, 2017 6:06 AM  

Are we now at the end of this dick measuring contest with one of the worlds most successful performance artists..? Hope so. Thanks.

Blogger John XR September 06, 2017 6:09 AM  

I've heard Andrew Anglin a bunch of times on the David Duke show, he's super interesting. I don't know about this ghost writer stuff, but he's definitely a real person. I think you guys are fighting on the same side of the culture war Vox. You should probably just have some casual chats with him. How about you guys all go on Stephen Molyneux, and he can direct the conversation. I mean Stef had Lauren Southern on, I'm pretty sure AA would have equal or greater to contribute to the cause.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 6:12 AM  

Are we now at the end of this dick measuring contest with one of the worlds most successful performance artists..? Hope so. Thanks.

Not even close. I went for over a month on the Japanese invasion of the West Coast. I figure three months, at the very least, for hammering the cowardly Anglins.

It's like you don't know me at all.

Blogger Frank Rizzo September 06, 2017 6:13 AM  

This article makes me want to buy 5 Fred Perry polo shirts, get a cock tattooed on my forearm, give up masturbating and join a diverse drinking club for men that disavows the alt right before taking every sip of our beverages.

I'd be proud to be part of such a group of men.

Maybe I should start my own group and call us the Proud Men!

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 6:13 AM  

I've heard Andrew Anglin a bunch of times on the David Duke show, he's super interesting.

He's not interesting at all. He's a coward, a fraud, and a nasty little creep.

Do you really think we don't notice that "interesting" is your new talking point?

Anonymous maniacprovost September 06, 2017 6:19 AM  

The "Style Guide" sounds like something Anon would write to satirize Anglin, although there's also a possibility that Anglin *is* Anon satire.

Anonymous JAMES September 06, 2017 6:23 AM  

Anglin actually is interesting to listen to.

Well more interesting than Mike Enoch.

I guess that's not too high a bar.

Anglin is however far more talented at doing what he does than his similar minded predecessors. I was shocked to find that an old friend from High school was a regular DS reader.

But however talented he might be he's ultimately counterproductive, same as all the other Jew obsessives.

Anonymous Rocklea September 06, 2017 6:25 AM  

"I mean Stef had Lauren Southern on, I'm pretty sure AA would have equal or greater to contribute to the cause."

That sounds great, he could get George Soros on as well and everyone could wear Hugo Boss. Or maybe AA could do a Media Matters interview discussing tactics with his fellow leftist.

Blogger Koanic September 06, 2017 6:27 AM  

"just blame Jews for everything."

In what little I've read from him, this struck me as part of the ironic Nazism. If you're smart enough to get the joke, you understand it's cheeky exaggeration. If not, then you're probably only smart enough to think in terms of one enemy anyhow, and the Christ-killer vanguard of Communism isn't a bad choice.

Which would be rhetoric, not intrinsic dishonesty.

His intrinsic dishonesty is proven by his admission that he embraces racially-beneficial dishonesty.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 6:28 AM  

In what little I've read from him, this struck me as part of the ironic Nazism.

"The unindoctrinated should not be able to tell if we are joking or not. There should also be a conscious awareness of mocking stereotypes of hateful racists. I usually think of this as self-deprecating humor - I am a racist making fun of stereotype of racists, because I don't take myself super seriously. This is obviously a ploy and I actually do want to gas kikes. But that's neither here nor there."

Anonymous JAMES September 06, 2017 6:37 AM  

Speaking of idiot Nazi Larpers however can I just note the massive decline in quality of output from Mike Enoch?

Before he was doxed the man was a touch extreme but light hearted and sometimes genuinely funny.

I guess his Jewish wife kept him stable. Now he's just a sad angry man who rants over and over again about Jews. Almost every fourth sentence has him spitting "Jew" or "Jewish". Frankly he has lost all appeal.

Sometimes I forget that the man has only been a nationalist for about three or four years. The political maturity simply isn't there.

Not to mention his ego. Holy crap that man has tickets on himself. He almost makes VD seem self effacing!

Blogger Tizona del Cid September 06, 2017 6:37 AM  

Wow... From the tone of these comments, Vox, it seems you may have hit a few nerves with this piece. You know what they say, you get hit with the heaviest flak when you're over the right target.

Allow me to co-opt the popular meme:

"The Alt-Reich cries out in pain as he strikes you."

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable September 06, 2017 6:42 AM  

These Anglin posts really bring out the Dear Abby in the Reichtards. They can't seem to stop giving Vox unsolicited advice.

Blogger John XR September 06, 2017 6:44 AM  

Okay at the very least Andrew Anglin is civil in how he treats people one on one. I've listened to him, this is the impression that I get. And he has claimed this as well, he treats people he meets in a respectful, civil manner regardless of race, or sex or whatever.

And, okay, not to call you out too much Vox, but you can't call him a coward. This is a guy who has put his name and face out there and really put himself in harms way for his political speech.

The point stands, he is at least as interesting as Lauren Southern. Vox, Stef, Anglin. Why not?

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 6:47 AM  

Okay at the very least Andrew Anglin is civil in how he treats people one on one.

Bullshit. Read his interview with Ben Garrison.

And, okay, not to call you out too much Vox, but you can't call him a coward.

I most certainly can. And will. The man is openly running from a scheduled debate with me that he - or at least one of him - publicly begged for in the first place. He's no braver than cowardly cucks like Matt Walsh.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 06, 2017 6:47 AM  

Dayam! They have an entire methodology worked out! People are always blowing off "those crazy conspiracy theories," and yet, here we have un-organic writing fashioned with an agenda. I agree with an earlier comment that this reeks of government infiltration.

That being said, I actually went to the Daily Stormer forum once. I went to this fascinating "welcome to the forum" thread that was chock full of fascinating and taboo quotations about race and whatnot. I never read my way through it all. Alas, now that the site is down, I'll never be able to read that collection of quotes ever again.

I should have copied and pasted them into a Word file.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 6:48 AM  

Vox, Stef, Anglin. Why not?

Because he has already run from Vox, Tara, Anglin. Deal with it. I know this will go over the heads of every single reader of the Daily Stormer, but Andrew Anglin is the Roderick Spode of the Alt-Right.

Blogger red clock September 06, 2017 6:49 AM  

People like Anglin are an important pillar supporting the Anti-White Marxist establishment. Without caricatures like him to scare the masses, people might actually start considering dissident right ideas. Can't let that happen!

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if SPLC/ADL donate to him. Substantially.

Anonymous JAMES September 06, 2017 6:53 AM  

Anglin wouldn't beat Vox in a debate but I think it would be a good listen regardless.

The Johnson one was good.

Richard Spencer as well, I'd listen to that. Or the guy who calls himself Spectre.

Mike Enoch no. He thinks he's brilliant but ironically enough just argues like a stereotypical loud obnoxious New York Jew.

Hunter Wallace might be Interesting, Vox and his last tussle was good, although written.

But ultimately I get the feeling these guys star is failing. They had a chance at Charlottesville and they invited David Duke, Sig Veiled, chanted about Jews and didn't even ask a guy who looked a lot like a plant to put his swastika flag away.

They screwed the pooch and may very well be on the downswing.

Anonymous roo_ster September 06, 2017 6:58 AM  

In other news, the nazi larping train is still fine. And did you hear it was left wing?

Blogger Samuel Nock September 06, 2017 6:59 AM  

I thought the interview with Garrison was a satire that Garrison wrote himself. Did he really speak with or interact with Anglin in compiling it?

Blogger John XR September 06, 2017 7:01 AM  

I looked for that interview, this is it I think:
http://roguecartoonist.blogspot.ca/2015/08/ben-garrisons-exclusive-interview-with.html

At the end Ben says this:

The above interview contains satire. If you don't like it, Andrew...feel free to 'come at me.' This is still America and it's my Constitutionally-protected free speech. If you remove all the altered photos of me as well as the libel from your site, I'll be happy to delete this post and all the images. --Ben Garrison

I think it was just Ben making AA look like an idiot because the Stormer keeps on making-up fake Ben Garrison cartoons and getting him in trouble. That's my take anyway.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 7:03 AM  

The response of a Eulalie fan on Gab was hilarious.

"No one cares about your obscure references to bad tv shows and literature older than anyone in the altright, you pretentious fag."

Yeah, they're really on the side of Western civilization. These are not potential allies. These are the useless dregs.

Blogger Samuel Nock September 06, 2017 7:06 AM  

In response to my own comment, I guess the point of the interview -- real or not -- is that Anglin ruined Garrison's reputation and ability to make a living, which is what prompted it.

Blogger Ransom Smith September 06, 2017 7:08 AM  

Cracking up reading this.

No wonder there seems to be an inordinate amount of Anglin enthusiasts. They're all Anglin.

Blogger John XR September 06, 2017 7:08 AM  

Anyway I'm a big fan Vox, I read you daily. Thanks for it.

OpenID wustiblog September 06, 2017 7:09 AM  

"...by a former ghostwriter for the Daily Stormer."

This style guide was posted on mpc's members section by weev a while ago to recruit writers for DS. This is just the general template for DS style articles. How does this say anything about your 'multiple "Andrew Anglins"' hypothesis?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer September 06, 2017 7:12 AM  

This is entertaining. The alt-reichtards now appear to have two main points Andrew is "interesting" and "at least he is better than Mike Enoch".

Pretty weak. Next it will be "at least Andrew makes his bed every day" and "Andrew once said something that made me grin".

Please Clap.

Anonymous Jew Lover September 06, 2017 7:20 AM  

Who is your spy VD?

Blogger Dirk Manly September 06, 2017 7:24 AM  

J L
shut up.

Blogger ZhukovG September 06, 2017 7:27 AM  

So the Alt-Reich(Retard) crowd is quite possibly under Globalist control. Not surprising at all.

It would certainly explain their shrill insistence to be identified as the real Alt-Right while behaving in ways that appear calculated to damage it.

Blogger Student in Blue September 06, 2017 7:30 AM  

So the Alt-Reich(Retard) crowd is quite possibly under Globalist control. Not surprising at all.

It would certainly explain their shrill insistence to be identified as the real Alt-Right while behaving in ways that appear calculated to damage it.


Hear $#&*-ing hear.

Blogger Scott September 06, 2017 7:33 AM  

Stefan has had Vox on his show. Why would anyone waste their time with a WW2 cosplayer like Anglin though?

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 06, 2017 7:35 AM  

Andrew Anglin is the Roderick Spode of the Alt-Right.

OWWW!!!

Cruelty Artist indeed and in truth!

It took me a minute to make the connection. The name was familiar but from where? I hadn't read the Jeeves and Wooster stories for years but now I shall have to dig them out again.

Spode is a large and intimidating figure, appearing "as if Nature had intended to make a gorilla, and had changed its mind at the last moment". He is constantly in love with Madeline Bassett, and though he intended to remain a bachelor during his career as a dictator, he nevertheless attempted to protect her from men "playing fast and loose"; to this end, he threatened on several occasions to beat Bertie Wooster and Gussie Fink-Nottle to a jelly. He marches his followers around London and the countryside, preaching loudly to the public on the dissoluteness of modern society until a heckler hits him in the eye with a potato. --Infogalactic

Blogger Ken Prescott September 06, 2017 7:38 AM  

JACIII wrote:Makeshift wrote:Anglin is a creep, Johnson a snarky gay, Spencer a vain autist, Vox has dad joke tier memes. All the heroes are dying.

Everybody loves Dad jokes. Just ask my kids.

I gotta say, Alt-retard is starting to look more and more Fed and/or opposition influenced than ever. Take any openly subversive already marginalized group, count the visible members and add 10% = Feds or opposition schemers. That's a WAG, but a place to start.


Speaking of Dad jokes, did you hear about the new restaurant on the Moon? Critics say the food's great, but there's no atmosphere...

Blogger Ken Prescott September 06, 2017 7:42 AM  

VD wrote:Vox, Stef, Anglin. Why not?

Because he has already run from Vox, Tara, Anglin. Deal with it. I know this will go over the heads of every single reader of the Daily Stormer, but Andrew Anglin is the Roderick Spode of the Alt-Right.

Looked it up.

All I can do is put on my Mortal Kombat voice and say "FINISH HIM!"

Blogger Cail Corishev September 06, 2017 7:49 AM  

"As such, all enemies should be combined into one enemy, which is the Jews. This is pretty much objectively true anyway, but we want to leave out any and all nuance."

Interesting. So they don't actually think the Jews are the cause of all ills; that's just a rhetorical device that they use for strategic reasons. They're just larping to some extent. Many of their followers would not be happy about that.

In any case, that's what makes their type so tiresome. You can "name the Jew" frequently, often enough to get on the ADL/SPLC hit lists; but if you're ever not naming the Jew, you're not pure enough for them, and they'll claim that your failure to name the Jew 100% of the time proves that you're a secret Jew-lover and your presence on those hit lists is actually cover. It's not good enough to point out that Jews are heavily involved in the pornography business, for instance; you have to talk as if porn wouldn't exist without Jews pushing it.

It's irrational, and boring, and makes it nigh-impossible to discuss the true extent of Jewish influence. They create a situation where you're either ranting about Jews 24/7 or you're avoiding the topic because you don't want to get caught up in the ranting. Using their own logic, I could claim that they are (((controlled))) opposition being used to drive people away from rational discussion of the issue.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 06, 2017 7:50 AM  

I am serious when I say I can't distinguish Anglin's writing strategy from the one followed far more successfully by Mel Brooks.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 7:52 AM  

I can't distinguish Anglin's writing strategy from the one followed far more successfully by Mel Brooks.

But equally unfunny.

Blogger Silly but True September 06, 2017 8:03 AM  

"...such as Gawker."

So in the realm of digital media with nearly infinite supply of successful models to go-by, Anglin chose the homosexual one which hit it big with gay topics.

Coincidence?

Blogger horsewithnonick September 06, 2017 8:13 AM  

In the future everyone will be Andrew Anglin for fifteen minutes.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 8:19 AM  

Anglin says on Gab that he will show for the debate at 11 AM Eastern on Saturday. If Tara confirms, we'll do that.

Unless he's just trying to buy a little time before running again. We'll see.

Anonymous Charlie Primero September 06, 2017 8:20 AM  

Vox genuinely does not understand the psywar Anglin is doing. I suspected this, but it is now confirmed.

After two years of reading and supporting Vox, this is a disappointing confirmation. I thought Vox's holier-than-thou puffery was just a comedic pretense.


Unfollowing Vox RSS, Gab, Twitter, et al. I should have known better.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 8:24 AM  

Vox genuinely does not understand the psywar Anglin is doing. I suspected this, but it is now confirmed.

First Law. Again. What is remarkable is that they think it is hard to understand the entirely obvious. Everyone understands what Anglin is doing with his "psywar". We just think it is retarded.

Blogger Koanic September 06, 2017 8:25 AM  

> "This is obviously a ploy and I actually do want to gas kikes."

Sure, by "ironic Nazism" I meant that he doesn't actually believe Jews cause all evil, not that he doesn't actually want to gas the kikes. An example would be the saying, "Hitler did nothing wrong."

This trollish joke does two things:
1. Signal sincere anti-Semitism, from expulsionist to exterminationist
2. Evoke the threatening bogeyman of K hierarchical militaristic fashy-traditionalist persecution against the distaff r traitor degenerate queer nonwhite alliance, to e.g. make girls cry.

#2 is just an echo of the eternal primate conflict between militant dominant hierarchical masculinity and weak herd nurturing effeminacy.

Which is what makes Nazism primate-Rightist, and thus perceived Rightist, despite being economically Leftist, and thus abstractly Leftist.

Blogger Johnny September 06, 2017 8:32 AM  

"Prime Directive: Always Blame the Jews for Everything"


Hey, rhetoric and dialectic. This picking out a bad guy and focusing on him works because it goes to human nature. Thus it reoccurs as a successful method. Rules for radicals has it, And the Democrats were doing it for a while with Trump. It was Russia, Russia, Russia; the devil that Trump was in league with. Now it is something else I guess. I don't watch the news much.

The same thing went on in the post WWII period on our side. The commies were to blame for everything. (Dare I mention ancient history?)

If the bad guy can be taken down then he should be, and before the whole thing gets boring. Otherwise the bad guy should be the guy behind the curtain, seldom referenced to or seen, but always available to assign blame. That was one of the errors in the otherwise smoothly written Daily Stormer. They talked about the Jew way to much.

As for Hitler murdering off the Jews. It was unnecessary (not useful) and occurred mainly because Hitler was a genuine paranoid, a nut case.

Blogger Nate September 06, 2017 8:34 AM  

dude... what a trainwreck.

As always... when discussing Anglin we must keep in mind he's a daddy's boy still living at home... and his daddy is a christian snake oil salesman.

Blogger VD September 06, 2017 8:41 AM  

Sure, by "ironic Nazism" I meant that he doesn't actually believe Jews cause all evil, not that he doesn't actually want to gas the kikes. An example would be the saying, "Hitler did nothing wrong."

I don't give a damn about these "kidding, not kidding" gamma word games. Unlike many, I can follow these intellectual cowards back and forth across the rhetoric/dialectic line, and their dancing doesn't confuse me in the slightest.

As will likely be demonstrated in the debate.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 06, 2017 8:41 AM  

I can't distinguish Anglin's writing strategy from the one followed far more successfully by Mel Brooks.

But equally unfunny.


Yes. Anglin really needs a better agent than the SPLC. Is Carl Reiner still alive?

Anonymous I'm Not A Nazi, Socialism Is Evil September 06, 2017 8:44 AM  

"Finally, notice that the Anglins merit zero sympathy for being kicked off Cloudflare, as their principle of celebrating people as secret Nazis is precisely what got them into trouble there."

I remember they used this after the Hillary alt-right speech, when a whole bunch of people started saying they were alt-right. Steven Crowder put "alt-right" in a video byline, and Daily Stormer and TRS did a joint troll to call him a huge supernazi. Photoshopped pictures with Nazi flags, fake tweets calling for genocide, the whole works, until he dropped the "alt-right." This was considered a successful op.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 06, 2017 8:47 AM  

Another serious question: ia Anglin one or more of the popehat things? If so, has he come out as mentally ill yet? Or gay married/separated to a jew?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 06, 2017 8:53 AM  

I'd send money to Anglin if he would do a 180 on the Jews and out Falwell the ghost of Falwell.

Blogger Lazarus September 06, 2017 8:53 AM  

VD wrote:Unless he's just trying to buy a little time before running again.

Right now he is avoiding a process server in regard to a lawsuit by a Whitefish Montana realtor over one of his "psywar" tactics. All this in relation to a building owned by Richard Spencer's mother. He has hired the same 1st amendment lawyer Cernovich used.

Whitefish Montana is embroiled in an anti-White-supremacist "love" movement headed by a female rabbi from New Jersey.

It is like a Coen brothers movie.

Anonymous Jack September 06, 2017 8:54 AM  

The alt-retard makes one understand why Nietzsche hated anti-semites even more than he hated Jews.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 06, 2017 9:07 AM  

I don't give a damn about these "kidding, not kidding" gamma word games.

They set my teeth on edge. I don't mind the "ironic Nazi" stuff on /pol/. Makes me laugh sometimes, actually. And I don't mind serious discussion of the problems caused by Jews. That's a topic I think deserves more discussion.

But their "Hitler was right but kidding-not-kidding if you disagree you're with (((them))) but come on can't you tell we're not serious except we totally are..." That's just damn tiresome. And they think this attempt to keep people guessing about their intentions somehow represents the most principled stand of all. It's retarded, hence the moniker.

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Blogger ZhukovG September 06, 2017 9:29 AM  

One of the arguments I see repeatedly from the Fake-Right crowd is that this argument is just about economics. That is should be dropped because we're all good 'Nationalists' here and should be on the same side.

But is National Socialism really Nationalist? Or is it just another form of Globalism that wraps itself in Nationalist rhetoric?

Anonymous ikacer September 06, 2017 9:29 AM  

And, okay, not to call you out too much Vox, but you can't call him a coward.

I most certainly can. And will. The man is openly running from a scheduled debate with me that he - or at least one of him - publicly begged for in the first place. He's no braver than cowardly cucks like Matt Walsh.


It is not cowardice to avoid a battle you know you will lose. IIRC you talked about just that recently when discussing Aristotle's Ethics.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 06, 2017 9:30 AM  

I have had to explain that Nazis are not alt-right, that they cannot be alt-right because Nazis are socialists. That Charlotsville was fascists (Nazis) versus Communists (Antifa).

Blogger OGRE September 06, 2017 9:31 AM  

The whole thing reads like its from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

Which isn't surprising, as I figure at least half of their leadership are leftist plants, simply following their basic playbook of infiltrate and discredit.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 06, 2017 9:34 AM  

BTW, Nazis are all against "states rights" and that the Union had to kill the idea that the States created the Central government and are superior to it in inyernsl isdues.
Hitler was a Lincoln man.

Blogger Student in Blue September 06, 2017 9:37 AM  

@68. ikacer
It is not cowardice to avoid a battle you know you will lose. IIRC you talked about just that recently when discussing Aristotle's Ethics.

It's cowardice to run away and then lie about not running away.

And he was the one to ask for it in the first place, so it's even more cowardly.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 06, 2017 9:37 AM  

The "Anglin Collective" would have made a good name for one of those family rock band collectives from the 70s. Too bad they'd have all OD'd and/or committed suicide before 1979.

Blogger S1AL September 06, 2017 9:43 AM  

"But is National Socialism really Nationalist? Or is it just another form of Globalism that wraps itself in Nationalist rhetoric?"

It's the racial imperialism form of globalism, to answer the rhetorical question. Amusingly, it's actually what the USSR later turned into. I think the unavoidable reality is that every form of socialism will turn to plundering imperialism and the importation/creation of a servant class - a la Rome. It's a pattern that just keeps getting repeated.

Anonymous CarpeOro September 06, 2017 9:44 AM  

Wow. Looks like most of the many splinters that form AA showed up here. I don't get the sense that they have a bowl of chili, even in the aggregate. Soros really needs to hire a better level of troll if he expects to sew dissension here.

Anonymous Michael J Maier September 06, 2017 9:50 AM  

Nate:
As always... when discussing Anglin we must keep in mind he's a daddy's boy still living at home... and his daddy is a christian snake oil salesman.


SNAKES CAN CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY????

Blogger bw September 06, 2017 9:53 AM  

Always Blame the Jews for Everything

The Jewes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing -- J the Ripper murders

There is a dearth of knowledge and understanding on much of the AR concerning the WhiteTraitor piece of the puzzle (there's only two pieces for TheWest).
It is British Zionism - the Juwe $ + the White families and networks Converged.


(((who))) might benefit most by keeping the NatSoc threat alive in 2017?

If they didn't exist, they'd have to invent them.

Blogger Whisker biscuit September 06, 2017 10:03 AM  

He ran to Italy.

Blogger Whisker biscuit September 06, 2017 10:04 AM  

Hide in Italy, and you'll get minions.

Blogger SirGroggy September 06, 2017 10:08 AM  

So... according to this Style Guide, they are instructed to be completely without any morality, integrity or philosophical consistency.

Blogger Rabbi B September 06, 2017 10:13 AM  

@68 ikacer

It is not cowardice to avoid a battle you know you will lose.

Andrew Anglin to debate Vox Day.

Translation: Sheep with downs-syndrome slaps wolf.

You're right, picking a fight you knew you would never win is not cowardice, it's congenital stupidity.

Anonymous Jack September 06, 2017 10:15 AM  

@77 Bruce Robinson's They All Love Jack is an awesome book about the Ripper murders, and not just because I like the title.

Blogger Matthew September 06, 2017 10:18 AM  

VD wrote:I can't distinguish Anglin's writing strategy from the one followed far more successfully by Mel Brooks.

But equally unfunny.


Mel Brooks jokes make you stupider.

Blogger Matthew September 06, 2017 10:24 AM  

Koanic, the problem is that while the Anglin pattern of hyperbole strikes certain highly intelligent types as amusing, we aren't the intended audience. It goes beyond joking/not-joking disingenuousness. Same mouth, two messages.

Blogger Dr. Stephen J. Krune III September 06, 2017 10:39 AM  

The overriding issue with Anglin is he's been blocked from the Internet (effectively) for making jokes certain people consider in bad taste. I'm far more interested in fighting that war than in stamping my feet about Anglin's tastelessness or "cowardice" for the approval of liberals who will never like me anyway.

Gab and every other right wing site is going to face the same kind of pressure from now on, and that pressure will be corporate and effectively unanswerable, unless we grapple with this in a serious way.

Anonymous I'm Not A Nazi, Socialism Is Evil September 06, 2017 10:51 AM  

"the problem is that while the Anglin pattern of hyperbole strikes certain highly intelligent types as amusing, we aren't the intended audience."

The DS article where he said he's aping Saul Alinsky flat-out said that his goal was to brainwash the young and impressionable.

Simplistic, superstitious hyperbole can be amusing, but it has an intoxicating, hypnotic effect that is especially persuasive to:

- the young
- the stupid
- losers
- people who have actually been screwed over

And he's OK with that. He has explicitly said he is using his enemy's tactics against them, and that includes using propaganda to leverage the most susceptible as weapons.

Nazis are the REAL Shylocks.

Anonymous Hezekiah Garrett September 06, 2017 10:53 AM  

And THAT'S why I'll never leave VP! Who else is gonna pull out 'Lord Sidcup' as an insult!

(But I see what you did. Any halfway decent Anglin acolytes will seek out the reference and get hung up reading Wooster and Jeeves for years. Certainly better for them. Might even lead then to Waugh.

Anonymous fop September 06, 2017 10:55 AM  

These freaks are cut from the same cloth as Westboro Baptist Church.

Fake right, utter leftists at heart.

Blogger IrishFarmer September 06, 2017 11:14 AM  

Im not here to be an apologist, but as a reality check on what can and cant be known about Anglin. The person emailing you could just be trolling, since its apparently an old inside joke that Anglin is multiple people. He may be, but the email doesnt prove that. Assuming the style guide is real, and i believe it is, the portion you showed just reads like a guide for all of the writers of the site, not a guide on how to pretend to be AA. It could be, but considering these people are trolls its just as likely theyre lying to you and provided "proof" just so they could laugh at their hilarious joke.

Also, his accusations that people like Milo and Gavin are nazis isnt meant as a slur, per se. Or at least i dont think it is. Its meant to polarize, so that anyone who remotely agrees with Anglin cant hide in the middle ground but will be attacked all the same as if they were a nazi. Im not saying its okay or good, just saying i think that tactic is misunderstood here.

That said, ive heard Anglin live recently and he sounds like hes stoned out of his mind, mumbling about the spiritual physics of the universe or some other drug fueled nonsense. I dont think he stopped taking drugs, is my point, and i think youre gonna run circles around him. Should be entertaining if he follows through.

Blogger YIH September 06, 2017 11:20 AM  

fop wrote:These freaks are cut from the same cloth as Westboro Baptist Church.

Fake right, utter leftists at heart.

Better example: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

Anonymous Rhino September 06, 2017 11:26 AM  

I guess these things are difficult to understand when you are not the audience for them.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 06, 2017 11:40 AM  

@71
Aaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Internal issues not "inyernsl isdues."

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 06, 2017 11:45 AM  

@89

Appropriate symbols, even if they represent something not in agreement, to attempt to associate with a desirable outcome. Then, slowly morph its meaning into its opposite and when convenient attack it and destroy. Fallacy meet strawman.

Read "La Historia Me Absolvera" (History Will Absolve Me) By Fidel Castro, or the Sandinista takeover in Nicaragua.

Anonymous Yuron Yuron September 06, 2017 11:57 AM  

Hm. This style guide certainly reads like it was written by Anglin. I would definitely trust that this is a real thing.

However.

He is not explicitly talking about ghostwriting in any of it. I think this is simply a guide for other writers who want to write for his site. He was soliciting articles from his forum users not too long ago (perhaps he still is).

I'm still not convinced of the "multiple Anglins" theory. It isn't central to criticism of the man - his tactics are insane and he should probably do something else - but I don't quite buy it, yet.

I hope you'll go into more detail on this in the future, Vox - because I want to believe.

Blogger Student in Blue September 06, 2017 12:03 PM  

@85. Dr. Stephen J. Krune III
I'm far more interested in fighting that war than in stamping my feet about Anglin's tastelessness or "cowardice" for the approval of liberals who will never like me anyway.

That was the entire point of trying to leave the Alt-Reich alone and to stop picking on them when this all first happened. It didn't work. Keep up.

If someone keeps attacking you and working against your purposes, how in the world could you ever classify them as an ally? And you can't simply ignore an enemy - that has never worked.

Blogger Nationalist Flicka September 06, 2017 12:06 PM  

**Fake right, utter leftists at heart.**

I have noticed that. They seem to think as soon as the enthostate is in place, they can then have their homogenous welfare state.

I believe that was tried. It resulted in Sweden of the 1970-80s. It had to be reformed a million times and resulted in importing a displacing hostile Muslim population who was promised to fund the "social benefits" and perpetual vacation/sick leave.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 06, 2017 12:06 PM  

Steven Crowder put "alt-right" in a video byline, and Daily Stormer and TRS did a joint troll to call him a huge supernazi. Photoshopped pictures with Nazi flags, fake tweets calling for genocide, the whole works, until he dropped the "alt-right." This was considered a successful op.

I'd say it was a successful op, assuming red clock is right

People like Anglin are an important pillar supporting the Anti-White Marxist establishment. Without caricatures like him to scare the masses, people might actually start considering dissident right ideas. Can't let that happen!

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if SPLC/ADL donate to him. Substantially.


Blogger SirGroggy September 06, 2017 12:12 PM  

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if SPLC/ADL donate to him. Substantially.

I would be surprised. It is far-fetched although not impossible.

I don't think they could fake it to that level, without leaking. We know Anglin's group has leaks - if they were doing this, that would have leaked, I think.

Blogger markmclay18 September 06, 2017 12:35 PM  

Take it for what you want, to me the Daily Stormer is filterless, puerile racist hilarity. I couldn't help but laugh reading some of the articles. Perhaps that makes me a puerile racist...meh, who cares.

Blogger LP9 September 06, 2017 12:41 PM  

Looking into it last night, I think I noted 3 differing styles. Not certain.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2017 12:44 PM  

VD wrote:but Andrew Anglin is the Roderick Spode of the Alt-Right.
"Eulalie"

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 06, 2017 12:52 PM  

All socialisms are skinsuits for Babelism; whether nationalist or internationalist, there will always be a lust for global Empire, with perfecting Man as the excuse.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 06, 2017 12:53 PM  

(In reply to ZhukovG's question: "But is National Socialism really Nationalist? Or is it just another form of Globalism that wraps itself in Nationalist rhetoric?")

Blogger The Hidden Hand September 06, 2017 1:34 PM  

Anglin is a fraud. Listen to this interview he did in 2012 in which he reveals his true feelings. He's majorly anti-white & espouses admiration for jews. He goes on and on about whites being racists and jews being the best & smartest people in the world. Anglin begins at 48:00. http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-80448/TS-584272.mp3

Blogger Koanic September 06, 2017 2:04 PM  

The more one-sided Vox's victory over Anglin, the better, in my opinion.

> I don't give a damn about these "kidding, not kidding" gamma word games.

Sure. I'm just arguing that "ironic Nazism" is a valid name for it. Others like "hyperbolic Nazism" (redundant) and "comedic Nazism" (ambiguous) aren't as good.

Anonymous BGKB September 06, 2017 2:05 PM  

Are we now at the end of this dick measuring contest with one of the worlds most successful performance artists..?

Why do these contests always have to happen in the wee hours of the morning?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener September 06, 2017 2:16 PM  

A sloppy, poorly strategized style guide. Probably written by Jews.

Blogger Blank Spott September 06, 2017 2:23 PM  

Seriously disingenuous.

Blogger The Hidden Hand September 06, 2017 2:35 PM  

Want to hear Anglin reveal his true anti-white feelings? Check out this interview in which he tells us all how 'white people are evil' at 2:08:00 http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-80448/TS-584272.mp3

Anonymous Anonymous September 06, 2017 2:37 PM  

nigger, eat shit

Anonymous Perfunctory Solecism September 06, 2017 2:39 PM  

I'll stick to Alex Linder and vnnnforum.com, now that SF has been Shoahed.

Enjoy it while you can.

Blogger Gary Eden September 06, 2017 3:22 PM  

Maybe your main point is true VD but your line of argument here is sad.

Ghostwriters is a common thing on the right. Who cares? Even VD has obliquely hinted at doing the same; though I'd believe he doesn't. And then reader contends it was general site style guide. Whatever.

Anglin is dishonest because he uses rhetoric you say. Ya, VD has defended that same claim against moderates.

Anglin uses effective tactics from the left. *yawn* Another thing VD has defended previous.

Claim that Anglin isn't as popular as advertised with on a baseless claim he's rigging Alexa with the only evidence being the relative follower count on Gab; totally ignoring how much longer VD has been on Gab. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it is.

Oh and then claims that Anglin is a nasty mean person because of an interview which another reader points out was fictitious satire. Oh and hurtful memes.


Anonymous AB.Prosper September 06, 2017 3:29 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:So the Alt-Reich(Retard) crowd is quite possibly under Globalist control. Not surprising at all.\

Actual Nazism was a globalist ideology anyway. Its nothing new

In any case the Reich-Tards violate a good chunk of the most important precepts of what it means to be .alt right (4,5,6,8,10 and 15) have the impulse control and discretion of 6 year olds on a Kool Aid bender , draw agro and worship an ideology that was often virulently anti White on its face

They have zero place in the .Alt Right and the sooner they are sent packing the better

Blogger Student in Blue September 06, 2017 3:41 PM  

@112. Gary Eden
Maybe your main point is true Gary Eden but your reading comprehension here is sad.

Ghostwriting isn't even the focal point here. VD points out that apparently it's correct that Anglin had been using ghostwriters, like he thought. I guess people had been trying to tell him otherwise.

Anglin is dishonest because he says incorrect things that he knows is incorrect, not because "rhetoric". That's pretty much by-book definition of dishonesty.

Anglin uses tactics that are not effective, but rather self-serving and overall harmful to the movement he espouses.

Claim that Anglin isn't as popular as VD on Gab because he wasn't there as long is dumb. If he really was more popular, Vox wouldn't be THREE times his follower rate, it'd be far closer than that even with a 'headstart'. If Anglin really was more popular, then his fans would've made the switch with him and appropriately given him follows. If they actually cared about it. Which they apparently don't.

Oh and then claims that Anglin is a nasty mean person is clearly completely true because he never disputed it. It must've happened. Anglin is clearly complete scum.

Anonymous Rhino September 06, 2017 3:51 PM  

Anglin wouldn't behave in this manner if it weren't for the Jews.

Blogger Dr. Stephen J. Krune III September 06, 2017 3:55 PM  

Student in Blue wrote:@85. Dr. Stephen J. Krune III

I'm far more interested in fighting that war than in stamping my feet about Anglin's tastelessness or "cowardice" for the approval of liberals who will never like me anyway.

That was the entire point of trying to leave the Alt-Reich alone and to stop picking on them when this all first happened. It didn't work. Keep up.

If someone keeps attacking you and working against your purposes, how in the world could you ever classify them as an ally? And you can't simply ignore an enemy - that has never worked.


What a point missing comment. I know Vox claims not to give a damn about corporate control of speech, but I sure do because Anglin is right now a test case into how far our de facto monopolized Internet companies can go with SJWs whispering in their ear while they point to vague TOS rules as they force you out of public discussion. "Keep up."

Whether you like Anglin's sense of humor or think he's being counter-productive or is simply an asshole, he is the canary and if he dies you can count your ability to keep expressing heterodox views in minutes, at least to anyone other than yourself. Understand?

Blogger Dave Narby September 06, 2017 4:06 PM  

It's almost like there's a coordinated attempt to turn as many people off to free speech as possible.

I'm giving odds Anglin Inc. is a crypto "Anglo-Zionist". Short odds.

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Blogger Albion Awakes September 06, 2017 5:31 PM  

So, Vox, if DS is not the most popular Alt-Right site who is?

Alexa tells us:

dailystormer.com
Global ranking: 12,187
US ranking: 3,148

voxday.blogspot.co.uk
Global ranking: 436,852
UK ranking: 23,545

Blogger Mace Dindu September 06, 2017 5:43 PM  

"Stefan has had Vox on his show. Why would anyone waste their time with a WW2 cosplayer like Anglin though?"

Stefan is allowed to have the likes of Vox on his show. The kikes over at google are not afraid of Vox.

Blogger bw September 06, 2017 6:36 PM  

I'm giving odds Anglin Inc. is a crypto "Anglo-Zionist".

No No....much more historically simple than that...
British Zionism

Anonymous Slowhand McSloth September 06, 2017 6:44 PM  

I don't buy the multiple Wanglins theory. I've read his work for a couple years now, and there is a definitive rhythm to his style. He can teach someone the basic format, but he'd have to teach them to make the same mistakes as well. His errors are his signature. There is no real pattern or reason to them. It makes far more sense for one Anglin to be working at a feverish capacity, Pace mistakes as it were.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2017 6:45 PM  

Albion Awakes wrote:Alexa tells us:
What does Alexa measure? (hint: it's not popularity)

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 06, 2017 7:15 PM  

Anglin has inverted the typical Leftist tactic of using the same people to form a cornucopia of different front groups to make themselves seem more popular than they are.

Anglin has recruited many people to submit 'work' under the Anglin persona name / style in order to appear more accomplished and consequential than he actually is.

they / he are all just working the same game of trying to plump something up so they can appeal to the false authority they gain by referring to that popular thing though.

Blogger rerevisionist September 06, 2017 7:21 PM  

[Directed here by 'Supreme Dark Lord' in Twitter] Reading this material - it's strange how fake a lot of these comments seem. No nuke lies awareness. No suspicion that Spencer is a phoney (see e.g. mileswmathis.com on him) - so that eg the property law case is probably just fake opposition. Only one weak comment on Charlottesville. www.big-lies.org --- see the nuke material if it's new to you.

Anonymous Anonymous September 06, 2017 8:08 PM  

The Daily Stormer (https://dailystormer.at/) is at times satirical, often serious, and always good for a laugh. Anglin doesn't clarify where his jokes end and the politics begins because his audience is young White men who don't give a fuck and it's working.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2017 8:17 PM  

Anonymous wrote:Anglin doesn't clarify where his jokes end and the politics begins because his audience is young White men who don't give a fuck and it's working.
For negligible values of "working"

Anonymous Pincers September 06, 2017 8:48 PM  

Anglin is funny, Vox is vain. This won't end well for Vox. He'll be back to preaching to his core group of sycophants when this is over.

Blogger Alexandros September 06, 2017 8:59 PM  

This is some FBI controlled opposition level shit right here.

Blogger Paulie Boy September 06, 2017 10:11 PM  

Voxxy the ex-pat and his groupies "anyone that actually engages in real life advocacy is a Fed or a coward"! Absolute projection by Voxxy the ex-pat and his net groupies.

Blogger Paulie Boy September 06, 2017 10:13 PM  

Oh, and who is more popular (yeah, yeah, Vain Voxxy the ex-pat doesn't about such things!)? Well, Chris k out the alexxa ratings.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2017 10:45 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Albion Awakes wrote:Alexa tells us:
Paulie Boy wrote:Oh, and who is more popular (yeah, yeah, Vain Voxxy the ex-pat doesn't about such things!)? Well, Chris k out the alexxa ratings.

What does Alexa measure? (hint: it's not popularity)

Anonymous Mr. Rational September 06, 2017 11:49 PM  

Matthew Funk wrote:The Jews should always be the beginning and the end of every problem, from poverty to poor family dynamics to war to the destruction of the rainforest....

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was going to blame you.

This is the flip side of the "Whiteness is the root of all evil" coin.  Given that anti-Whiteness is a Jewish thing, it's a well-deserved reversal.

Martin wrote:Are we now at the end of this dick measuring contest with one of the worlds most successful performance artists..? Hope so. Thanks.
Note that the style guide implicitly says "shoot left".  This is not the policy of an enemy.

I'm never going to go out and rally with any of the Andrew Anglins.  I'm never going to have anything to do with Third Reich symbolism.  But I will read and laugh, and if I live long enough that we've won and things have calmed down, I hope to buy several rounds of drinks for as many of the Andrew Anglins as will come to the same establishment.  Why?  Because I have to troll idiots pretty damn hard to get grins that good, and you can file off the serial numbers and re-use the talking points almost anywhere.  TDS is a valuable resource.

JAMES wrote:however talented he might be he's ultimately counterproductive, same as all the other Jew obsessives.
We need someone to take on the NAJALT apologists.  Barbara Lerner-Spectre and George Soros deserve to be bogeymen, and the best way to deflect the "NAZI!" label you'll get for going after them is to own it.

Blogger Matthew September 06, 2017 11:54 PM  

Dr. Stephen J. Krune III wrote:What a point missing comment. I know Vox claims not to give a damn about corporate control of speech, but I sure do because Anglin is right now a test case into how far our de facto monopolized Internet companies can go with SJWs whispering in their ear while they point to vague TOS rules as they force you out of public discussion.

I hate this present battle, and I think everyone involved should retreat and regroup for a better one.

1. Yes, everyone should be Buckleying or at least undercutting their retards who are working against the good and generally acting like gnats that stupidly interrupt Trump in the middle of MAGA, causing him to have to cough and spit before inventing his next nickname.

2. Yes, the Anglin/Gab debacle is a test case. A test case into how the major participants are apparently unaware of the possibility and desirability of DOING THINGS IN PRIVATE SO THEY DON'T AMPLIFY. Good grief. Girls.

3. Yes, very importantly, this is a test case into how bad it's going to get for us at Vox Popoli, and others at various other forms. I don't understand why VD has picked this fight either.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 07, 2017 12:13 AM  

Matthew wrote:I don't understand why VD has picked this fight either.
Because it's personal.
He negotiated a truce and their side has been breaking it for months.
The have attacked Vox's friend and impacted his ability to make a living.
And now they've become a liability.

Blogger Matt@Occidentalism.org September 07, 2017 1:28 AM  

I own a bunch of your books which I purchased with the specific intention of supporting you and getting money into your hands. I would be happy to send my Amazon account receipts to prove it.

That said, this is thin gruel to claim that Andrew Anglin is a group of people posting with the same name like Zero Hedge. Reading it I see no indication that Anglin is instructing anyone to use his name for their posts. Your only evidence is a very tortured reading of his example byline.

Also, unlike Zero Hedge, the Daily Stormer has always had staff members posting under their own names. Some of them are well known people in their own right, like Eric Striker.

As for this 'internal document', I remember seeing it on the Daily Stormer BBS, posted in public by Andrew Anglin for people wanting to submit articles to his website.

What is happening to Andrew Anglin is significantly different to the free market just functioning.

Anonymous smackoning September 07, 2017 2:46 AM  

So the charges are: Anti-intellectualism. "Co-opting". Trying to have some fun inside a paradigm of genocidal anti-whites dictating norms of taste and morality.

Gentlemen, if the Daily Stormers succeed by hook or crook in burning this shit-show of waffling and cringing down to the ground we will owe them a debt of gratitude.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 07, 2017 2:50 AM  

smackoning wrote:Gentlemen, if the Daily Stormers succeed by hook or crook in burning this shit-show of waffling and cringing down to the ground we will owe them a debt of gratitude.


You think you're having an effect?
Good Lord, you 'tards are delusional.
Well, I suppose annoying people is an effect, but frankly, you're not even very good at that.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable September 07, 2017 3:23 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Matthew wrote:I don't understand why VD has picked this fight either.

Because it's personal.

He negotiated a truce and their side has been breaking it for months.

The have attacked Vox's friend and impacted his ability to make a living.

And now they've become a liability.


Adding to that 4. he's objectively correct, and 5. the Andrew Anglin style guide is what a Jew would write if he wanted to make money off of "helping" his tribe by maintaining the effectiveness of Holocaustianity and scaring off mainstream personalities from being even non-anti-white.

Anonymous Raw Cringe September 07, 2017 4:35 AM  

LOL at people saying this is FBI/SPLC controlled op level stuff. I could have written this style guide myself and my only experience is six years of my little pony fanfiction ok

you only need three ingredients to quickly become a wizard of this calibre:

1. modicum of self awareness
2. a single goal
3. NEET life

follow these 3 WEIRD STRATEGIES and you too can create the #1 most popular republican blog on the deepweb

Blogger lyovmyshkin September 07, 2017 6:28 AM  

"And the repetitive talk about "how much he's done" and how "super interesting he is" is just more of this constantly self-inflating, self-marketing puffery."

Does the truism about hating in others what we see in yourself apply here possibly? Whatever Anglin is I found myself reading much of your description of him and thinking it applied to you as well as your community equally -- if not more so. Some of the comments here reach levels of fawning sycophancy that are almost as comical as they are cringe inducing. Fair play to you. You've got an audience who loves your work. I don't have a problem with that. The weird part is that for some reason you do.

Anonymous JAMES September 07, 2017 7:29 AM  

I don't believe Anglin to be a group of people. Just a hunch from his writing style.

But he and everyone following him seems oblivious to how counter productive his approach can be.

Like the asinine "but they'll call us Nazis anyway so why not just be them" bullhorn they keep coming out with.

Because you alienate 90% of your potential support base and isolate yourself from possible allies thus making you vulnerable to.. I dunno... getting thrown off the internet?

They are 30 something year old children playing a grown up game.

Blogger Dr. Stephen J. Krune III September 07, 2017 9:16 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Matthew wrote:I don't understand why VD has picked this fight either.

Because it's personal.

He negotiated a truce and their side has been breaking it for months.

The have attacked Vox's friend and impacted his ability to make a living.

And now they've become a liability.


At least this doesn't come from VD's mouth. "Negotiated a truce"...get fucking real.

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